2010-10-30, 13:05 | Link #1181 |
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He could, it was just much more limited.
ever since the Chunin Exams, Naruto has had some limited control over the Kyuubi chakra. This control grew over the time skip, but it was also then where he reached a point where he loses control. He now has full control of the Kyuubi chakra. It wasn't stated Jinchuuriki's could break out, only Bee. The stated reason Bee could break out is because Hachibi is his partner and works with him. The Kyuubi and Naruto do not have this relationship. At least thats what I remember was said.
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2010-10-30, 13:34 | Link #1182 |
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"In order to break the illusion, i need a partner who can disturb my chakra and snap me out of it.. My partner is the beast inside me.. Illusions won't work on a host who can control their beast."
Bee's explanation about how ho broke the genjutsu. Naruto has full control over kyuubi now, so he should be able to break Sasuke's genjustu. Why else would Kishi make this possible if not for Naruto when he faces of with Sasuke.
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2010-10-30, 13:51 | Link #1183 |
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Ah, but Naruto doesn't control the beast, but its chakra. there's a difference.
You are probably right, and Naruto will be able to break free tho. But seriously, it states right there he still needs a partner, his beast here, to break free for him, and Kyuubi is not that partner for Naruto. Not right now anyway.
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2010-10-31, 13:39 | Link #1185 | |
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2010-11-26, 18:20 | Link #1188 |
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Didn't that frog crawl into Naruto's mouth? That's probably enough to knock him out of genjutsus.
Besides, genjutsu works by messing with the user's chakra. Kyuubi mode chakra surging through him basically knocks him out of it instantly. Maybe make him immune. |
2010-11-28, 12:01 | Link #1189 |
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Naruto with complete control of the Kyuubi's chakra should be invicible and potent enough to overpower Susanoo and any sharingan genjutsu. We all know EMS isn't omnipotent since Senju Harishima beat Uchiha Madara with the Kyubi and EMS combined. Since Naruto control's the power, only Madara is the only one who can stand blow for blow with Naruto and not Sasuke.
Sasuke should lose this fight with ease unless Kishi asspulls better. |
2010-11-28, 12:56 | Link #1190 |
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though Madara was fighting to gain Hashirama's techniques or DNA or whatnot
also, i'm doubting whether Madara even has Susanoo for whatever reason but yes, Killer Bee easily broke Tsukuyomi because of Hachibi helping him out of it, so genjutsu is a no-no here .. maybe Mugen Tsukuyomi would work, but for it to exist the jinchuriki need to die first
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2011-02-13, 09:16 | Link #1194 |
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No, you can have elemental manipulation without Sharingan... besides, doujutsu doesn't mean you have some elemental manipulation, there you have Byakugan.
Sasuke used fire jutsus way before he developed sharingan (their parents were still alive). Sasuke could be stronger than Naruto?, yes, but, Sasuke is not the main hero of this, so, that place is for Naruto. Every time Sasuke is powered-up, Naruto will have at least something to be in Sasuke's same level. And Kishi was wise enough to create a smart dialogue when the team 7 gathered for the last time. When Naruto said to Sasuke that both will die in their next fight, Kishi is saying that they're pretty even because both have pros and cons.
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2011-02-15, 12:28 | Link #1198 |
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Even since Naruto defeated Pain he has been on par/slightly stronger than Sasuke. But after training with Bee and learning more about the nine-tails and the ability to unleashed a thousand rasengans with his massive chakra, it is no question now.
But we will see how this may backfire for Naruto since Sasuke has the "EMS" now. Still, don't forget about whatever Itachi handed to Naruto. |
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Naruto may have thought he was at the bottom of his class but he was never due to his given abilities (Nine-Tails). Naruto was born strong, you cannot argue that fact. You make it sound as if Sasuke became strong overnight. He was desperate in the beginning when the whole curse mark seal and all, but ever since he left Konoha he has been in overdrive mode. 2 years, I think it is safe to assume he was training everyday and dreaming of revenge and the same can be said of Naruto, however, their progession wasn't the same because Sasuke is more skilled and intelligent. If anything, I would say that Sasuke is the one who has worked hard to not only escape the shadows of Itachi, but to also surpass Naruto in terms of powers during stretches of the story. Naruto's advantage in training and "Hard work" -The 1000 clone technique (Massive Nine tail chakra) -Son of 4th Hokage and red hair girl who is apparently also strong -Intensive training with Jiraiya and Kakashi -Frog training Saske's advantage: -He is just better at Naruto at every facet if you aren't counting given abilities. That's really the only advantages he has. |
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2011-02-15, 17:01 | Link #1200 | |
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-Intensive training with Orochimaru and Kakashi -Son of the Uchiha clan leader and his wife, both jonin level ninja's. -Drugs to promote improvement -Curse seal (for a time) Sasuke has more talent than Naruto, but both have had to work hard for those abilities, or to fully master them.
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