2008-08-01, 19:05 | Link #81 | |
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If that happened I can see Byakuya saying "....fu*k"
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2008-08-01, 23:26 | Link #85 | |
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@ArtCP if Byakuya didn't have his little epiphany, he would of killed Ichigo w/ a Kidou spell, that isn't a 'what if' that's what would of happened. I've also already said it in a previous post, Ichigo could of killed Byakuya a long time ago when he had his sword up to his neck. really hate repeating stuff... |
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2008-08-02, 00:27 | Link #86 | |
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The thing is, Byakuya with his enormous pride would never ever give a win to someone when it was possible he could win. This is my opinion of the situation, I don't think he could overturn the fight with a kido spell in that situation, you think he could. Let's just leave it at that. |
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You cant seriously say though that Byakuya used every capability he posess since hes a master of Kido. Quote:
Kido wont work on Ichigo, you know there are some very skilled people and very very powerful spells out there ye ? how does Ichigos speed make him "immume" to kido? Quote:
Kidou at that moment when his sword shattered and all probably wouldnt have been much good since he was prety drained, but using it from the start would have made big difference. |
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2008-08-02, 01:08 | Link #88 |
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Byakuya without his zanpaktoh has no chance of beating Ichigo. But no chance of winning does not = losing.
With his shunpo techniques and his kido he could run around like a little bitch and wait for Ichigo's hollow form to time out. At that point Ichigo wouldn't have enough offense to win, nor does Byakuya have any offense to speak of, so its a zero sum game. Anyway, this comes down to what Ukitake said: There are fights for your pride, and there are fights for your life. Ichigo has won fights so far against Shinigami captains because they were fights for his life--i.e., his life was threatened if he didn't win. This wasn't the case for either Kenpachi or Byakuya. If Byakuya was fighting for his life (and didn't give up versus Ichigo), then he'd do hit and run with kido and shunpo (thats what he's built for)...then it becomes a fight of attrition, who wins between him and Ichigo in a theoretical fight? Anyone's guess. |
2008-08-02, 01:13 | Link #89 |
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IMHO in the whole fight, he was making a compromise himself. He didn't want to just sit back and do nothing after all -- he was the head of a noble family, he had to lead by example. But he loved his sister as well. Thus when he 'lost', he didn't continue it, because he had in a way settled his own feelings -- at least he tried to protect the laws of SS, even if he failed. Maybe he could have won if he had continued, but why would he try so hard? You need to remember that rukia is his sister after all.
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2008-08-02, 01:53 | Link #90 | |
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2008-08-02, 03:54 | Link #91 | |
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2008-08-02, 06:34 | Link #92 | |
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Besides, how can we even be sure Ichigo would let the hollowside fight for him aswell, wasnt very keen on letting it continue when he fought him in SS. Bankai Ichigo would be in trouble if kidou came into play |
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2008-08-02, 08:39 | Link #93 |
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From all the kido spells we've seen so far, there arent many that cant affect Ichigo. Why? Because casting an offensive kido spell would need time and Ichigo is pretty quick in his bankai form and because of Ichigo's huge spirit energy, a binding spell or restrinctive spell would be difficult to stop him too.
And as far as i remember we've seen all the captains fighting already... not vs Ichigo but we've seen their powers. |
2008-08-02, 13:03 | Link #95 |
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Kidou seems highly dependent on the caster's power level. Byakuya makes a low level spell like #4 white lighting *extremely* powerful. Also there seems to be an indication that hierro (arrancar steel skin) has very little effect on stopping kidou.
And also you have to consider kidou is not like zanjutsu. There is no physical motion like a sword swing that you can telegraph. It's an instantaneous affect after a high level caster points in a general direction and then skips the incantation. Kind of like the difference between dodging a punch and dodging a BB gun. Now this isn't much of a manga spoiler, because its not saying much, but I'll throw in this tidbit: Byakuya is a VERY high level caster. |
2008-08-02, 15:28 | Link #96 |
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"what if" ichigo slit bya's throat
"what if" byaku aimed his lightning shot at ichigo's heart or brain, not shoulder "what if ichigo let Hichigo finish off byaku "what if" byaku shunpo'd back when iichigo fell and kidou his head (orihime's head too since they bumped into each other) "what if" we wrote the manga opps, none of these exist =(
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2008-08-02, 15:32 | Link #97 |
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Yup, that's why i stopped arguing, cuz if they saw the manga(too bad you guys true to the anime have to wait at least 9 months to get to the part i'm talking about) they would see stuff that would sway their opinions like a wind vane in a storm.
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2008-08-02, 15:33 | Link #98 | |
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2008-08-02, 16:51 | Link #100 |
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A good episode but can people please stop making baseless arguements on how Ichigo would destroy all captains at once.
We have no way to gauge the apparent 4 strongest captains Yama, Unohana, Ukitake and Shunsui so we can't tell how good they are or what they can do. Also if Ichigo is fast and somehow he managed to take everybody out (which I doubt) Mayuri could call out his bankai use it's poison and then when he gets hurt turn into liquid and scurry away leaving Ichigo to die. |
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