2007-02-08, 09:19 | Link #41 |
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-Oh please, you're over-glorifying Sasuke's Katon jutsu a bit here. It's not that one element cannot beat the element that opposes it. In the case of both the Fuuton and Katon jutsus, Fuuton is supposedly weaker than Katon and anytime the 2 would colide, if the Fuuton jutsu was lower than or at the same level as the Katon jutsu it would only serve to increase the Katon jutsu's power. But, should the Fuuton jutsu surpass the Katon jutsu then the elemental weakness will no longer be a "big" factor in that clash. Sasuke had better hope that he has a Katon jutsu that matches the Fuuton: Rasenshuriken in strenght or else he will be up Shit's Creek without a paddle (considering his strongest Raiton jutsu are weak to Naruto's Fuuton abilities).
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2007-02-08, 09:35 | Link #43 | |
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-Sasuke cannot see which Naruto is a clone and which is real, that was anime filler, so who can say it wouldn't work. I doubt kishimoto would use that same scenario again though. -Does the fact that Naruto just single handedly beat a powerful Ataksuki not signal a change? |
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2007-02-08, 09:49 | Link #44 | |
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2007-02-08, 10:10 | Link #45 | |
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Don't forget that even though we know Naruto's nature, Kakazu would not. He's seen what a deadly jutsu Naruto has and was lucky Naruto messed up the last time. Now if you were in that situation for a second time, would you mess around with clones again or would you go take out the one holding that beast of a jutsu? Its not that Kakuzu was dumb just that Naruto was smart. |
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2007-02-08, 10:40 | Link #46 | |
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Second, Kakuzu is capable of huge wide range destructive attacks, and even though he did lose some hearts, I am positive he had enough chakra left to barrage Naruto and companys with jutsus to force the real one in the open or at least to prevent the real one from attacking since it took both Naruto and Yamato's combined jutsus last time to save their necks. Third, Kakuzu has a ton of experience and his personality (up to Naruto) was that of a cautious and calculating one. Assuming he doesn't know Naruto's personality, he should had been thinking of 'what if'. As it is, he didn't. In short, Kakazu is retarded. I am not saying what Naruto did wasn't smart.... but it shouldn't had worked so easily. The victory was just cheesy and once again make Akatsuki underrated. Why do you think people are questioning Itachi's strength now if he is supposingly the 'ultimate' ninja? It is because of this crap that we are seeing from the supposingly world's strongest villian organization.
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2007-02-08, 10:46 | Link #47 |
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Naruto did this vs Sasuke on the rooftop, he suddenly appeared over him, and yet Sasuke as a chuunin recognized this and countered. Now consider speed increases and consider that Kazuzu is an Akatsuki member...
Yeah I didn't buy this whole encounter 'arc'. It started off ok, now it's plain unbelievable. No one even mentions Naruto's fast speed, it would have been a bit more believable...but sheesh... It feels like Kishi just wants to end this manga to start his new bright idea manga...his love for Naruto seems to have ended, though I have a feeling his love will come back when there is another Sasuke encounter... figures |
2007-02-08, 12:02 | Link #49 | |
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according to Kakuzu he could ignore the 3 other not because they were insighnificant but because if he kills the real one they dissapear before having the chance to attack him it is a risky but very valid strategy against the old naruto |
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2007-02-08, 12:20 | Link #50 |
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itachi's days as an akatsukian might be numbered. Naruto was able to defeat an itachi clone that has 30% of his power with the help of kakashi, seeing now IF naruto is twice as strong, he would be able to better defend himself against ita, and IF sasuke's on the same level as the current naruto, then it might not be long before sasuke seeks out his brother for a piece of him.
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2007-02-08, 13:26 | Link #52 | |
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Kakuzu showed himself as an intelligent fighter. He had tons of experience and claimed to have even fought the First. He thought enough ahead to break out of Shika's kage mane and even chided him for thinking he could be caught so easily. He had Kakashi near death twice. He did underestimate Shika, but how was Kakuzu suppose to know he was an uber genius? Kakuzu just doesn't seem like the same fighter once Naruto arrived. Oh well. These two had to be defeated somehow. |
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But the main point was that no elite ninja ever used his ultimate jutsu as a clone and not with his original body. For example the now strongest known ninja Itachi was not able to use his MS jutsu when he fought as a clone (With a perfect copy of himself with 30% of his original chakra, very similar to the current situation where Naruto has 3 clones, each with only 25% chakra). So Kakuzu was just following a good logic when he assumed that only the real one will make such an ultimate jutsu. Quote:
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2007-02-08, 15:07 | Link #55 |
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meh. people complained about naruto's lack of progress than he comes in and pwns an akatsuki member and people complain about it. i dont understand people.
naruto outwitted kakuzu. i dont see why its so hard to except that? hes done it plenty of times before. just because he is akatsuki doesnt make him infalliable. and they obviously want to show that naruto's new attack is made of serious bad assery. I think they accomplished that. |
2007-02-08, 15:19 | Link #56 | |
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Not to take anything away from Shika but he needs good planning to make up for his lack of power. On paper Shika should lose every battle, but he doesn't. |
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2007-02-08, 15:51 | Link #57 |
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Hmm... I still havent recovered from last weeks massive dissapointment. Nor am I convinced Kakazu's dead. Nor should I be. considering how many times they do this in manga/anime.
Shouldnt kakazu's body be literally torn to shreds? At least like Hidan's IMHO. Instead the body falls relatively intact to the ground. Im betting hes still alive, but beat up or something. He cant be dead. If he is dead... then it totally makes up for last week. As it shows that Naruto is so strong that he can take out a powerful enemy in 2 attacks as if it were some easy-kill shlub. Thus finally matching Sasuke's overpoweredness.
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2007-02-08, 16:14 | Link #58 | |
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When using Kyuubi chakra, Naruto has always been fast. There is no surprise there. And that speed is not actually running speed, it is more like jumping speed (although don't know how one compare to the other). But, despite that quickness, Kakuzu noticed Naruto, unfortunately being in the air and having concentrated on a totally different opponent, he didn't have the time to respond. If he were to be in the ground, the result might have been different.
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If Kishi has already considered Naruto becoming stronger than Kakashi with the training he had and that jutsu, why not? |
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