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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...37290701284388 Boehner was "planning" to make something that show the House GOP can actually do something about the shutdown. Now he can't. But the greatest piece of news coming out of it is that the markets were not shocked; this was already accounted for. Boehner incompetentence is now considered the norm to stock brokers, and they planned accordingly.
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2013-10-16, 06:58 | Link #31182 |
books-eater youkai
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Betweem wisdom and insanity
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Senators seek budget deal, House GOP effort flops
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-16-07-30-23 Short-term debt deal won't mask big barriers ahead http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-16-03-06-06 Greek Parliament lifts 6 MPs' immunity http://bigstory.ap.org/article/greek...g-mps-immunity
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2013-10-16, 08:36 | Link #31183 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Look around: 69% of Tea Partiers say that a default would be no problem. Seriously. If anything, they like the idea of the government collapsing. Anything to topple this Kenyan Muslim Al-Qaeda Lover who is destroying America. The same day that welfare cheques can't be sent anymore, hell will break lose on the market. This is going to be a disaster. |
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AS Oji-kun
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Merkel’s Options Narrow as Greens Withdraw From Talks Quote:
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2013-10-16, 10:47 | Link #31187 |
Gamilas Falls
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
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The ones I find to be the most against the ACA are white lower middle class families that are not on welfare. They tend to have a lot of veterans, either in the family or associate with other families that do have them. Vietnam veterans that did not join the hippie movements. Most tend to speak about loyalty to the Constitution and that the Predident has shat all over it. They want Congress to stand up to Obama and do their job to uphold the Constitution. Otherwise they see civil war in the near future as the "Americans" (I would say Constitutionalist) try to take the country back.
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2013-10-16, 11:08 | Link #31189 |
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I am a vet and I totally onboard with ACA, sure it has problems but for my Dad who could not get Health Care for the longest of time, can find get some.
I thought about this is that GOP is a falling brand right now, with all of this backlash from this mess and Tea Party is breathing down their necks. This is going to cost them and cost them big, they kind of glad that some of them redraw their districts.
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2013-10-16, 11:09 | Link #31190 |
Gamilas Falls
Join Date: Feb 2008
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They were talking about defending the Constitution during the Clinton adminitration. And they didn't agree with all Bush did either, though my impression is they at least though the degrading of the Constitution was less at that time or shifted the blame to Congress for not doing their job (or perhaps more along the lines of not upholding their oath to defend the Constitution) since Bush himself seems to not do much at all from their perspective.
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2013-10-16, 11:34 | Link #31192 | ||
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Bipartisan compromise reached in Senate to raise debt limit, reopen government: Harry Reid
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2013-10-16, 11:42 | Link #31193 | |
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Gamilas Falls
Join Date: Feb 2008
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For the mindset, look up the party known as the "American Independent Party" from probably the 1970s. This is were some conservative people ended up that didn't care for the Republican Party after Nixon and might not have voted for Reagan. Quote:
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2013-10-16, 12:44 | Link #31198 | |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: R'lyeh
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One thing i like to see the Dems do is step up the ground game on the local level. School boards, county seats and state legislature. Getting control of the State legislature is crucial to gaining control of the house.
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2013-10-16, 15:13 | Link #31200 | |
AS Oji-kun
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Maybe they are confusing the ACA vote with the controversy over Presidential appointments which did concern whether the Senate was in session. The resolution of that question is working its way through the courts. My guess is that they are not confusing anything with anything. They are simply very unhappy with an America that looks less and less like the whitebread culture of the 1950s and early 1960s. Few people on the far right in America today have any comprehension of the complexities of governing a large and unruly country in a period of global disruption and change. The election of a black as President just confirmed their view that the country as they think of it is going down the tubes. Take a look at these "word clouds" that represent the results of focus groups with Republicans. When asked about the future of our country, the dominant emotion is fear. Partly these responses are the result of the incessant right-wing propaganda machine, but a lot of it represents a real loss of status, especially among white men with less than college educations. The types of jobs that these men held when I was growing up are simply not available any more. In the meantime, all the economic and taxing decisions made over the past three decades have sucked most of the benefits of economic growth and placed them in the hands of the wealthy. Thus we get the "what's the matter with Kansas" phenomenon, where the people who have been most adversely affected by Republican policies nevertheless continue to vote for that Party. Marx would call it "false consciousness."
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