Hi, I'm new in this forum. I'm learning English, I hope you can understand me XDDD
well, Haruto is an idiot, If I were him I would let Yuzuki because she started doing selfish things, Come on Haruto!!, Nanami is there XDD
I think that if Kazama really did do that-- not just play the dying card, but is using her by not getting the surgery and keeping her on a leash-- I can forgive her. I still think she went about things completely the wrong way, though. If she wants to be forgiven, though, I think she's going to have to do some massive reparations and not just end up back in Haruto's arms. It'd make him seem like a door mat on which she can stomp all over.
I think that if Kazama really did do that-- not just play the dying card, but is using her by not getting the surgery and keeping her on a leash-- I can forgive her. I still think she went about things completely the wrong way, though. If she wants to be forgiven, though, I think she's going to have to do some massive reparations and not just end up back in Haruto's arms. It'd make him seem like a door mat on which she can stomp all over.
She must do some massive reparations and Haruto must have pride
the one who will make kazama do the surgery will be haruto
after knowing that kazama won't do it cause he believe that Eba will leave him if the surgery succes
i mean afterwards,so how can haruto help him to do the surgery?!!
he will make adeal with kazama if you do the surgery and succes i'll giveup on Eba and i won't bother your life,but if it failed i'll take her back (cause he is already dead)
and i think after that the surgery will success and the situation will get more complicated
but haruto will keep his promise in the deal
and that moment the matter will be in Eba hands and also kazama
but i think kazama will learn something from this,he learned that haruto is areal man who kept his word,and areal loyal friend,so kazama should help him like he did for him
and kazama should also keep his word,"i'll cheer you on what ever you do"
and also "we will do what ever to get your old girl friend to look at you again"
This girl will probably end up falling for Haruto too..
no she wont.... unless haruto is the unwary gigolo...... o wait... he is..... he has how many love junctions with him...... lets see.....
Yuzuki (i leave the verdicts to you)..... Nanami..... Asuka..... Shiho (WHAT?! NO!).... Aoi (our dreams are shattered due to her having a BF).... Akari..... Nagoshi (i dunno)....
really........ haruto's life is like a dating sim..... with more girls and pains to unlock.....
Haruto is the last person you should feel bad for, he's a guy who could get any girl he wants, at any time. This drama is laughable but amusing to watch
well here is the dialoug in more detail,even asakura look are described here
but its google translation from chinese to english
Spoiler for ch.95:
The next day. Hospital corridor. Green big smile is preparing to wind between the wards. "Finally leaves me smiling. Next time do it ① tofu mixed vegetables." Youth between large wind before a single room was about to fill it look a look but came a burst of female voices, but also do not know the girls.
"Why? Kung Fu Jun said not need an operation? Why do not they undergo surgery a sudden?"
Green big hearing this, no not into that atmosphere. At this point, the wind outside was detected between, on the accosted Road.
"Who?"
"Can go in?"
"You ah! Tong Island."
Today, grapefruit hope not ward. Bed stood a girl. Eyes sharp, tall body, keep long hair shawl, Liu Qi Mei's very neat cut. She wore a uniform, shirt buttons, some with ribbons tied all the outside is a white vest.
"She called Asakura clear the United States, is my childhood friend. Heard that I was in the hospital, came to see me."
Green large self-introduction, a greeting. However, Asakura Kiyomi not ignore him, continue to question Kazama.
"Do digression, quick to answer me, why not accept the surgery?"
Kazama pained hands together pleaded.
"No ... sorry, Tong Island, you first go back! Grapefruit Greek she said, do not come."
"Oh, so, ah, ah branches do not come today!"
Back half way, young big saw the Asakura clear the United States and asked to play the sound after the greeting.
"Not only live a year yet? Is also necessary to undergo surgery?"
"I do not know to bid farewell to utter! Good as long as the surgery is still possible. Of course, the success rate is very low, not hundred percent. If the operation fails, then no saved. However, 3 months ago, Kung Fu Jun said clearly do not sit and wait for death, such as surgery. but what ...... that leaves, and in the end is who ah? Kung Fu Jun said with what comes naturally after dealing with her, do not get surgery. Well, certainly That leaves the crying call seeking Kyosuke Jun do not undergo surgery. "
"What do you say ah! Leaves she is not the kind of people."
Maintenance of green leaves looked great, clear the United States got really angry.
"She is the kind of person! Because Kyosuke Jun said she often told me things, I heard a cocoon ears. Anyway, I just hate her. How can we sit and wait for death? I absolutely do not agree!"
Finished, clear the United States walked to left. Big Green stood, a look of astonishment.
Evening. Xu soup. Kirishima room.
Kwai lying in bed, snoring. Green big cat in his sleeping bag.
"No matter how determined, that he will die, who will be afraid of disturbing it. The kind of person in front of what surgery it! Such a thing, can it do? Replaced I absolutely dare not say. Such irresponsible remarks, able to say it? "
The next day. Great look of anguish to go green in the hospital corridor. To the ward between the wind, he clenched fist, took a deep breath.
"Hey! Branches coming?"
Beds on each side stood a girl, the smell of gunpowder filled the air. These two girls are Greek and grapefruit Kiyomi. Seems to have happened was some dispute. Greek eyes red grapefruit, as if to cry look. Big blue room to see the wind, sighed with relief.
"Ah, so see you for a long time, and Kirishima. Hurry, hurry in."
Clear under the United States regardless of want to ease the momentum of the wind and just entered the green room a large, hard to said.
"In our period of dispute, the success rate has dropped. I, but only for the sake of Kung Fu Jun said so."
"That ......"
Kiyomi heard grapefruit Greek aloud, looking at a contempt of grapefruit Greek.
"Although I know you did not clear the United States for so long, I will not say nice words, but I think that, then do not accept the surgery or by the monarch to decide Kung fu is better."
"Pa"
......
Hey ......
Kiyomi blew a slap shot in the face of grapefruit Greek.
"Has not speak, So you think so ah?"
The slap as a fuel, and the atmosphere more to rigid.
"You say such things will kill Kyosuke monarch. You this pest."
......
Note: ① is a traditional Okinawan cuisine, from a variety of vegetables and tofu frying made. Classic dishes as bitter melon, tofu and eggs. (Accuracy to be demonstrated)
To be continued.
well here is the dialoug in more detail,even asakura look are described here
but its google translation from chinese to english
Spoiler for ch.95:
The next day. Hospital corridor. Green big smile is preparing to wind between the wards. "Finally leaves me smiling. Next time do it ① tofu mixed vegetables." Youth between large wind before a single room was about to fill it look a look but came a burst of female voices, but also do not know the girls.
"Why? Kung Fu Jun said not need an operation? Why do not they undergo surgery a sudden?"
Green big hearing this, no not into that atmosphere. At this point, the wind outside was detected between, on the accosted Road.
"Who?"
"Can go in?"
"You ah! Tong Island."
Today, grapefruit hope not ward. Bed stood a girl. Eyes sharp, tall body, keep long hair shawl, Liu Qi Mei's very neat cut. She wore a uniform, shirt buttons, some with ribbons tied all the outside is a white vest.
"She called Asakura clear the United States, is my childhood friend. Heard that I was in the hospital, came to see me."
Green large self-introduction, a greeting. However, Asakura Kiyomi not ignore him, continue to question Kazama.
"Do digression, quick to answer me, why not accept the surgery?"
Kazama pained hands together pleaded.
"No ... sorry, Tong Island, you first go back! Grapefruit Greek she said, do not come."
"Oh, so, ah, ah branches do not come today!"
Back half way, young big saw the Asakura clear the United States and asked to play the sound after the greeting.
"Not only live a year yet? Is also necessary to undergo surgery?"
"I do not know to bid farewell to utter! Good as long as the surgery is still possible. Of course, the success rate is very low, not hundred percent. If the operation fails, then no saved. However, 3 months ago, Kung Fu Jun said clearly do not sit and wait for death, such as surgery. but what ...... that leaves, and in the end is who ah? Kung Fu Jun said with what comes naturally after dealing with her, do not get surgery. Well, certainly That leaves the crying call seeking Kyosuke Jun do not undergo surgery. "
"What do you say ah! Leaves she is not the kind of people."
Maintenance of green leaves looked great, clear the United States got really angry.
"She is the kind of person! Because Kyosuke Jun said she often told me things, I heard a cocoon ears. Anyway, I just hate her. How can we sit and wait for death? I absolutely do not agree!"
Finished, clear the United States walked to left. Big Green stood, a look of astonishment.
Evening. Xu soup. Kirishima room.
Kwai lying in bed, snoring. Green big cat in his sleeping bag.
"No matter how determined, that he will die, who will be afraid of disturbing it. The kind of person in front of what surgery it! Such a thing, can it do? Replaced I absolutely dare not say. Such irresponsible remarks, able to say it? "
The next day. Great look of anguish to go green in the hospital corridor. To the ward between the wind, he clenched fist, took a deep breath.
"Hey! Branches coming?"
Beds on each side stood a girl, the smell of gunpowder filled the air. These two girls are Greek and grapefruit Kiyomi. Seems to have happened was some dispute. Greek eyes red grapefruit, as if to cry look. Big blue room to see the wind, sighed with relief.
"Ah, so see you for a long time, and Kirishima. Hurry, hurry in."
Clear under the United States regardless of want to ease the momentum of the wind and just entered the green room a large, hard to said.
"In our period of dispute, the success rate has dropped. I, but only for the sake of Kung Fu Jun said so."
"That ......"
Kiyomi heard grapefruit Greek aloud, looking at a contempt of grapefruit Greek.
"Although I know you did not clear the United States for so long, I will not say nice words, but I think that, then do not accept the surgery or by the monarch to decide Kung fu is better."
"Pa"
......
Hey ......
Kiyomi blew a slap shot in the face of grapefruit Greek.
"Has not speak, So you think so ah?"
The slap as a fuel, and the atmosphere more to rigid.
"You say such things will kill Kyosuke monarch. You this pest."
......
Note: ① is a traditional Okinawan cuisine, from a variety of vegetables and tofu frying made. Classic dishes as bitter melon, tofu and eggs. (Accuracy to be demonstrated)
To be continued.
here's a proper translation done on the onemanga forum:
Spoiler for 95:
Flash back of Eba: cya
Haruto: At last she smiled and talked to me
Haruto: Yo is eba here?
The new girl: Why?!
The new girl: why did you suddenly say such thing?
Kazama: No like i said please came down.
Haruto: huh, what the.. A fight?
Haruto: doesn’t look like eba..
The new girl: Didn’t I tell you already, hang in there and accept the operation!
Haruto: ... operation?
Kazama: Who is there?
Haruto: heyy I was just coming to visit and I heard a voice ..
Haruto: Is it okay for me to enter?
Kazama: Kirishima..
Kazama: Um don’t get the wrong idea, this isn’t a fight scene (not entirely sure)
Kazama: She is my childhood friend asakura kiyomi.
Kazama: She heard about my stay in the hospital so she is here to pay a visit.
Haruto: Oh hello, I’m kirishima haruto.
kiyomi: Enough of that, so tell me why?
Kazama: umm..
Kazama: Sorry but can you go back home today haruto?
Kazama: Eba also said she can’t come today.
haruto: i see..
haruto: well cya then..
Kazama: really sorry about this..
Haruto: kazama’s childhood friend huh.. looks like a handful person to deal with
Flash back of the previous scene
Haruto: but why was she that mad?
Haruto: Oh yeh, I was certain she mentioned something about an operation
Haruto: excuse me please wait for a sec..
Kiyomi: what?
haruto: just then what was it about the operation that you mentioned?
Haruto: What use is a operation if he is going to die in a years time?
Kiyomi: don’t say stupid things
Kiyomi: if he accepts the operation there is a chance that he can be saved..
Haruto: what really?! He can still be saved?!?!
Kiyomi: of course it isn’t 100% guaranteed if it fails then thats the end of it for him.
Haruto: what?
Kiyomi: But 3 months ago kazama said if he is going to wait for his death then he might as well do the operation.
Kiyomi: With that said, what is it with that kid, eba..
Haruto: eba?
Kiyomi: ever since they started going out, kazama has rejected the operation and said that he doesn’t mind dying like this..
Kiyomi: i bet that girl showed her crying face to kyosuke asking him not to take the operation.
Kiyomi: always selfishly deciding things on her own for kazama
kiyomi: and not thinking for kazama’s sake at all..
Haruto: wait, eba isn’t that kind of a girl..
Kiyomi: SHE IS
Kiyomi: i haven’t met her but I know
Haruto: WHAT? If you haven’t met her then what would you know?
Kiyomi: (not sure) I’ve asked kazama countless times about her but he never tells me anything about her..
Kiyomi: you’ve asked enough already right?
kiyomi: Anyway I will definitely be against it the whole thing about waiting for one’s death without doing anything.
Haruto: If it’s something kazama decided on then even eba wont be able to stop it.
Haruto: but no matter how determined he may be, if one thinks that he will die then anyone will definitely feel scared..
Haruto: for that guy even though death is right in front of him he still rejected the operation ..
Haruto: if it was me.. it’ll be impossible to reject.. such irresponsible things.. I’ll definitely wont be able to say it.
Haruto: is eba here?
Kazama: Hey kirishima, I’ve been waiting for you.
Kiyomi: Can you go home for us ? it’s a bit busy right now..
Kazama: HEY
Kiyomi: or would you want to join us in persuading kyosuke?
Kazama: Isn’t it enough already regarding that topic.. lets talk about it next time ..
Kiyomi: What are you talking about. As each moment passes the chances of success is declining rapidly!!
Kiyomi: I’m speaking this for you !
Eba: excuse me
Eba: I haven’t gone out with kyosuke for that long so i don’t have anything great to say but I think this is something that kazama should decide for himself..
Haruto: eba..
Kiyomi: For a while there I thought you were going to stay silent.. but you’ve been thinking about that sort of thing the whole time...
Eba: What?
kiyomi: Kyosuke is going to die because you’re saying something like that !
kiyomi : you MURDERER!!
Seo knew very well that this would happen I think he knows how to solve it.
Eba will suffer XDD
Spoiler for 95:
And I think in the end Haruto will actually be helping an Eba in need after all, just as he had planned.
Seems like Seo had his 2-part mirror story worked out long before.
- It was just the transition from the part of Eba going after Haruto to the Tokyo part where it's Haruto going after Eba that was perceived as edgy (to say the least) by parts of the readership.
Yes, I still think Seo's doing a decent job, Suzuka never was this compelling to me.
And I think in the end Haruto will actually be helping an Eba in need after all, just as he had planned.
Seems like Seo had his 2-part mirror story worked out long before.
- It was just the transition from the part of Eba going after Haruto to the Tokyo part where it's Haruto going after Eba that was perceived as edgy (to say the least) by parts of the readership.
Yes, I still think Seo's doing a decent job, Suzuka never was this compelling to me.
Spoiler for 95:
it's perceived as edgy simply because we still don't know what exactly happened before and after the Tokyo trip other than Kazama pulling the death card. I think that a short flashback arc of maybe 2 or 3 chapters is in order. that would be a good way to actually inform the readers of what Yuzuki is REALLY thinking.
And I think in the end Haruto will actually be helping an Eba in need after all, just as he had planned.
Seems like Seo had his 2-part mirror story worked out long before.
- It was just the transition from the part of Eba going after Haruto to the Tokyo part where it's Haruto going after Eba that was perceived as edgy (to say the least) by parts of the readership.
Yes, I still think Seo's doing a decent job, Suzuka never was this compelling to me.
I don't know, this whole thing seems really convoluted and it seems like Seo is just writing as he goes. I mean really, I don't see the point in all of this unless he's just trying to make KNIM a soap opera. >.>
Hi guys, I'm new here and this is my very first post in this site! Well, technically because this is the most recent manga I've read and so the memory is still fresh.
But damn I'm so disappointed in where the story is heading to. Haruto is totally not cool with this desperate stalker attitude. And how the hell can you act so normal to the guy who stole your girlfriend and the girlfriend who dumped you through a letter? I mean come one it's good that the male lead is not egotistic but please save some pride for yourself.
I really wish that at some point, Haruto will realize that what he's doing is pointless and everyone who said he was an idiot for going all the way to tokyo were right. I wish he gets back to Nanami and forget Eba altogether. And at the same time Eba realizes what she has lost and be the one who chase after Haruto. Haruto deserves it at least for all the troubles he has been to and all the stupid decisions he made. However, I know this is highly unlikely because the author of this manga is known for notoriously punishing the male lead by letting him do so much just to get the girl that doesn't deserve him- like what Yamato went through in Suzuka.
loooool i know why kazama got atroubled expression ^___________^
its just aprediction for what will happened next
Spoiler for prediction:
kiyomi think and will tell Eba infront of kazama that Eba is the reason why kazama droped the operation that could save him
ofcourse Eba don't know about that
well kazama will tell the truth after what he see infront of him
and he will said
"kiyomi stop it please,yuzuki have nothing to do about the operation,i even didn't told her about it"
kiyomi:what did you said? you are dating her and she don't know? don't make me laught"
that was a great slap!! I don't hate Eba but I think she totally deserves it...if you really love the guy, you want him to live, so receive the surgery is the only way..how can Eba say it's Kazama's decision to make?? Eba should urge Kazama to take the surgery..
Now Seo, what kind of disease that a patient will have the following symptoms:
1)Act perfectly fine in majority of times
2)Sometimes he will faint without any warning
3)He has to take surgery or he will die within a year...
??
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Not really trying to defend Eba, but it is Kazama's decision after all. It's not like they're married or she's his fiance. I would say that would play a more role in the decision if that were the case, but it's not. Also we know quite well that Eba can be spineless in tough situations...
Did she deserve the bitch slap, nah? The other girl was overreacting which seems to be a prime character trait handed out in the manga...
2010-06-25, 14:46
