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Ithekro · 2009-09-13, 16:14

Emotional investment of the audience...best thing any writer or actor wants during a scene.

Tornadium · 2009-09-13, 16:20

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Emotional investment of the audience...best thing any writer or actor wants during a scene.

Yea,

I think i must have seen 500 threads over about 10 boards in the hour after endless eight ended.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 16:21

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When we were in the live stream for the last episode...We had 10000+ people screaming in chat DO IT KYON MAN DO IT.

The feeling of relief, joy, sadness just could not have been done without the 8 repetitions.

Exactly! One of my many, many points as to why Endless Eight was a smart, intelligent decision, not some Kyo-Ani-girlfriend idea or any such condescending nonsense.

Tornadium · 2009-09-13, 16:23

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Exactly! One of my many, many points as to why Endless Eight was a smart, intelligent decision, not some Kyo-Ani-girlfriend idea or any such condescending nonsense.

Well,

I think the main reason for all of the hate is the fact that we don't know if anything is coming after this.

I guarantee if this rerun was announced with another season to air after it EE would have gotten a MUCH better reception.

The main problem is that we are afraid it will be the last Haruhi they do, and it's somewhat of a waste because we want to see more.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:31

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I think the main reason for all of the hate is the fact that we don't know if anything is coming after this.

I guarantee if this rerun was announced with another season to air after it EE would have gotten a MUCH better reception.

The main problem is that we are afraid it will be the last Haruhi they do, and it's somewhat of a waste because we want to see more.

That, to me, is a sign of impatience. I am a very patient person. Kyo-Ani has all but stated Disappearance will be made SOMEday. It's all a matter of when.

Tornadium · 2009-09-13, 17:32

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That, to me, is a sign of impatience. I am a very patient person. Kyo-Ani has all but stated Disappearance will be made SOMEday. It's all a matter of when.

They did?

Where?

I never saw anything about that.

Besides Patience is a good thing, However when it is still very possible they will just give up on a franchise and move on to somthing else it's still a very terrifying thing.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:35

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They did?

Where?

I never saw anything about that.

Besides Patience is a good thing, However when it is still very possible they will just give up on a franchise and move on to somthing else it's still a very terrifying thing.

The website going down on the date of the novel? The official Kyo-Ani artwork of Nagato and Asakura?

I see no reason why they won't make it in the future. If anything, the opposite.

OkamiNoKaze · 2009-09-13, 17:36

I think that was part of it too, with each episode of endless 8, people grew more and more worried there wouldn't be any of the Disappearance storyline, I think if they had known from the get go what was included in this reairing ( granted they always did call it a re-airing of "Season 1") that it might have been better received.

Heminga13 · 2009-09-13, 17:36

I don't see how putting Haruhi on the cover of the last two Newtype issues is a sign of abandoning the anime franchise.

But I agree it's mostly impatience. It goes for anything that isn't out yet but people are waiting for, such as novel 10.

I think we're going a bit off-topic , though lol

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:37

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I think that was part of it too, with each episode of endless 8, people grew more and more worried there wouldn't be any of the Disappearance storyline, I think if they had known from the get go what was included in this reairing ( granted they always did call it a re-airing of "Season 1") that it might have been better received.

Don't people have trust that the production company knows what they're doing?

Triple_R · 2009-09-13, 17:39

... And people say that it's the Endless Eight critics that are the ones who refuse to let this go...

Quite frankly, it seems to me like it's the Endless Eight defenders that simply refuse to move on and accept the fact that many people hated E8, and for perfectly legitimate reasons.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:41

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I don't see how putting Haruhi on the cover of the last two Newtype issues is a sign of abandoning the anime franchise.

But I agree it's mostly impatience. It goes for anything that isn't out yet but people are waiting for, such as novel 10.

Exactly. That's exactly what Endless Eight is. As I said in my essay, when Haruhi is 50-60 episodes and everything's been adapted, no one's going to complain that there are seven extra episodes.

Tornadium · 2009-09-13, 17:42

A lot hated it, A lot loved it.

That's fine. Justification is the problem. Absolutely no one is correct. Endless Eight had it's good points and it's bad points.

As long as people rabidly attack it and defend it no one will be able to move on from it which is sad really.

As for Disapperance...It was hinted i'll give you that. No where was it ever said "Yea we are definately going to do it eventually".

They could have abandoned the idea (Doubtful and i really hope that's not the case but just trying to prove a point).

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:42

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... And people say that it's the Endless Eight critics that are the ones who refuse to let this go...

Quite frankly, it seems to me like it's the Endless Eight defenders that simply refuse to move on and accept the fact that many people hated E8, and for perfectly legitimate reasons.

Well, it's a lively discussion and healthy debate.

So what are those reasons? I'll be happy to discuss.

OkamiNoKaze · 2009-09-13, 17:43

Granted I haven't been around since the beginning of the series like alot of people here, but from what I understand, the creators of this series like to play little games with the audience, that to some stretches that trust, and to alot of them the Endless 8, and possibly this whole re-airing, strained it past the breaking point.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Tornadium

A lot hated it, A lot loved it.

That's fine. Justification is the problem. Absolutely no one is correct. Endless Eight had it's good points and it's bad points.

As long as people rabidly attack it and defend it no one will be able to move on from it which is sad really.

As for Disapperance...It was hinted i'll give you that. No where was it ever said "Yea we are definately going to do it eventually".

They could have abandoned the idea (Doubtful and i really hope that's not the case but just trying to prove a point).

I don't think it's "sad." Healthy and intelligent conversation is good.

Tornadium · 2009-09-13, 17:44

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I don't think it's "sad." Healthy and intelligent conversation is good.

The sad comment was that as long as Haruhi is around, People are going to dwell on Endless Eight.

People remember the bad not the good.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:45

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Originally Posted by OkamiNoKaze

Granted I haven't been around since the beginning of the series like alot of people here, but from what I understand, the creators of this series like to play little games with the audience, that to some stretches that trust, and to alot of them the Endless 8, and possibly this whole re-airing, strained it past the breaking point.

They don't need to though have it past the breaking point though. Games are fun...

Heminga13 · 2009-09-13, 17:45

As long as new viewers to the series ask how to watch Endless Eight there won't be anyway to 'move on' from it lol. These types of discussions will pop up each time in some fashion, I think.

ImaOtotsuiAsatte · 2009-09-13, 17:46

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The sad comment was that as long as Haruhi is around, People are going to dwell on Endless Eight.

People remember the bad not the good.

Unless you think it IS good. Rewatching the series, I say Endless Eight has a tremendous pull and draw to it.

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2009-09-13, 16:14	Link #1001
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Emotional investment of the audience...best thing any writer or actor wants during a scene. __________________

2009-09-13, 17:36	Link #1008
OkamiNoKaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	I think that was part of it too, with each episode of endless 8, people grew more and more worried there wouldn't be any of the Disappearance storyline, I think if they had known from the get go what was included in this reairing ( granted they always did call it a re-airing of "Season 1") that it might have been better received. __________________

2009-09-13, 17:36	Link #1009
Heminga13 Wannabe Sleuth Join Date: Apr 2009 Age: 35	I don't see how putting Haruhi on the cover of the last two Newtype issues is a sign of abandoning the anime franchise. But I agree it's mostly impatience. It goes for anything that isn't out yet but people are waiting for, such as novel 10. I think we're going a bit off-topic , though lol __________________ If you're interested in what I'm watching, click here. Heminga13: Speculating and anticipating 'The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya' movie since August 3, 2009.

2009-09-13, 17:39	Link #1011
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	... And people say that it's the Endless Eight critics that are the ones who refuse to let this go... Quite frankly, it seems to me like it's the Endless Eight defenders that simply refuse to move on and accept the fact that *many* people hated E8, and for perfectly legitimate reasons. __________________

2009-09-13, 17:42	Link #1013
Tornadium Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	A lot hated it, A lot loved it. That's fine. Justification is the problem. Absolutely no one is correct. Endless Eight had it's good points and it's bad points. As long as people rabidly attack it and defend it no one will be able to move on from it which is sad really. As for Disapperance...It was hinted i'll give you that. No where was it ever said "Yea we are definately going to do it eventually". They could have abandoned the idea (Doubtful and i really hope that's not the case but just trying to prove a point).

2009-09-13, 17:43	Link #1015
OkamiNoKaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	Granted I haven't been around since the beginning of the series like alot of people here, but from what I understand, the creators of this series like to play little games with the audience, that to some stretches that trust, and to alot of them the Endless 8, and possibly this whole re-airing, strained it past the breaking point. __________________

2009-09-13, 17:45	Link #1019
Heminga13 Wannabe Sleuth Join Date: Apr 2009 Age: 35	As long as new viewers to the series ask how to watch Endless Eight there won't be anyway to 'move on' from it lol. These types of discussions will pop up each time in some fashion, I think. __________________ If you're interested in what I'm watching, click here. Heminga13: Speculating and anticipating 'The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya' movie since August 3, 2009.