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TigerII · 2012-02-02, 19:07

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...protect-ip.ars

This one is much lighter than the previous, and the main thing is it is not being drafted behind closed doors. There is even an open forum for discussion about it.

Just thought the people here should see this.

djmaca · 2012-02-02, 19:56

OPEN is better. It's at least more malleable than SOPA was in this stage. I think we could work something out here.

HasuMasu · 2012-02-03, 03:17

There's no compromise with me, recent events have shown us that they can and will enforce existing copyright laws much to the effect they are intending without the need for any of this. No discussion is required, you need not fix something that is not broken.

Alchemist007 · 2012-02-03, 04:05

We must extinguish these pests at the source.

Endless Soul · 2012-02-03, 09:01

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

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Agreed. I will not settle for a compromise. And this seems to be exactly what some of us were saying earlier: Introduce a bill which everyone is against, then introduce a milder bill that people who aren't paying attention will accept.

Endless "Fight on!" Soul

TigerII · 2012-02-03, 12:37

Either your out bribe companies or you forcefully evict the government. There is no other way to stop it. Greed is a very powerful force.

KyriaL · 2012-02-03, 20:20

Seems these people are really intent on making at least one bill that gives them authority over something or anything.

djmaca · 2012-02-03, 21:03

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Originally Posted by KyriaL

Seems these people are really intent on making at least one bill that gives them authority over something or anything.

Either they're bullies or losers.

Yui Is My Wife · 2012-02-03, 21:09

Sigh: This is Bill 156 all over again.....

Random32 · 2012-02-03, 22:12

At least its not going to completely break the internet...

Recent events show that we should be more concerned with restricting the power of the copyright industry rather than giving it new tools to use.

Tempester · 2012-02-03, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Random32

At least its not going to completely break the internet...

At least we're getting slapped in the face rather than being punched in the face with iron knuckles.

As Endless Soul said, no compromises are needed in this situation.

Vexx · 2012-02-04, 00:44

It sort of addresses the technical complaints about the previous laws.... sort of. It still fails utterly to address the existing problems with copyright, patent, trademark laws and pushes the completely bogus concept of "intellectual property". We've got judges ruling (in the UK) that someone's photo taken from the same spot in London pointing at Big Ben while a red bus went by... constituted copyright infringement. Normally I'd call it an idiot ruling by an outlier judge but this is what the "content gatekeepers" *want*. ACTA, OPEN, whatever.... its a blatant attempt by the MPAA/RIAA/spew at being the owners of all creativity.

Ledgem · 2012-02-04, 11:18

Apparently the RIAA is now opposing OPEN. Their grounds are that it won't be effective, because the process will take too long and it will require a bunch of resources that might make it impossible for "small businesses" to protect their intellectual property rights.

Vexx · 2012-02-04, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Ledgem

Apparently the RIAA is now opposing OPEN. Their grounds are that it won't be effective, because the process will take too long and it will require a bunch of resources that might make it impossible for "small businesses" to protect their intellectual property rights.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... <sigh> I've moving from academically opposing them to just hating their insipid evil.

Ledgem · 2012-02-04, 12:53

Some in the tech community interpret this to be the revealing move that the RIAA really doesn't care about intellectual property rights, they just want control and are using intellectual property rights to ensure that they keep it. Not that it hasn't been suspected for a long time...

Alchemist007 · 2012-02-04, 17:57

This is a sign that we are ready for the next step toward communism.
After we put some heads on pikes.

Vexx · 2012-02-05, 20:17

And just to keep shining a spotlight in the right direction... who are the pirates (thugs, warlords, rapists, pillagers, gangsters) again?

Artists suing the record labels (RIAA) ...
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...tch-at-itunes/

djmaca · 2012-02-05, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Vexx

And just to keep shining a spotlight in the right direction... who are the pirates (thugs, warlords, rapists, pillagers, gangsters) again?

Dude, e-pirates =/= thugs, warlords, rapists, pillagers, gangsters and drug addicts/dealers. E-pirates are worse than that: they steal intellectual properties. Meaning they steal intellect. So e-pirates steal intellect from Hollywood (if there were any from the start).

Ithekro · 2012-02-05, 20:54

I wonder....will there come a time for internet privateers...as oppose to pirates?

djmaca · 2012-02-05, 20:55

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

I wonder....will there come a time for internet privateers...as oppose to pirates?

My body is ready to go.

*Starts Mouretsu Pirates OP*

2012-02-02, 19:07	Link #1
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Already a new bill after SOPA/PIPA. OPEN. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...protect-ip.ars This one is much lighter than the previous, and the main thing is it is not being drafted behind closed doors. There is even an open forum for discussion about it. Just thought the people here should see this.

2012-02-02, 19:56	Link #2
djmaca My Girl ↓ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Update: Ortigas, Pasig, Phillippines Age: 36	OPEN is better. It's at least more malleable than SOPA was in this stage. I think we could work something out here. __________________ I find the lack of old Darth Vader memes.... disturbing.

2012-02-03, 03:17	Link #3
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	There's no compromise with me, recent events have shown us that they can and will enforce existing copyright laws much to the effect they are intending without the need for any of this. No discussion is required, you need not fix something that is not broken. __________________

2012-02-03, 04:05	Link #4
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	We must extinguish these pests at the source. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2012-02-03, 21:09	Link #9
Yui Is My Wife Paper-Fan of DOOM!! Join Date: Jul 2010	Sigh: This is Bill 156 all over again..... __________________

2012-02-03, 12:37	Link #6
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Either your out bribe companies or you forcefully evict the government. There is no other way to stop it. Greed is a very powerful force.

2012-02-03, 20:20	Link #7
KyriaL You are Reading this! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the study room	Seems these people are really intent on making at least one bill that gives them authority over something or anything.

2012-02-03, 22:12	Link #10
Random32 Also a Lolicon Join Date: Apr 2010	At least its not going to completely break the internet... Recent events show that we should be more concerned with restricting the power of the copyright industry rather than giving it new tools to use.

2012-02-04, 00:44	Link #12
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	It sort of addresses the technical complaints about the previous laws.... sort of. It still fails utterly to address the existing problems with copyright, patent, trademark laws and pushes the completely bogus concept of "intellectual property". We've got judges ruling (in the UK) that someone's photo taken from the same spot in London pointing at Big Ben while a red bus went by... constituted copyright infringement. Normally I'd call it an idiot ruling by an outlier judge but this is what the "content gatekeepers" want. ACTA, OPEN, whatever.... its a blatant attempt by the MPAA/RIAA/spew at being the owners of all creativity. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-02-04, 11:18	Link #13
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	Apparently the RIAA is now opposing OPEN. Their grounds are that it won't be effective, because the process will take too long and it will require a bunch of resources that might make it impossible for "small businesses" to protect their intellectual property rights. __________________

2012-02-04, 12:53	Link #15
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	Some in the tech community interpret this to be the revealing move that the RIAA really doesn't care about intellectual property rights, they just want control and are using intellectual property rights to ensure that they keep it. Not that it hasn't been suspected for a long time... __________________

2012-02-04, 17:57	Link #16
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	This is a sign that we are ready for the next step toward communism. After we put some heads on pikes. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2012-02-05, 20:17	Link #17
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	And just to keep shining a spotlight in the right direction... who are the pirates (thugs, warlords, rapists, pillagers, gangsters) again? Artists suing the record labels (RIAA) ... http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...tch-at-itunes/ __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-02-05, 20:54	Link #19
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	I wonder....will there come a time for internet privateers...as oppose to pirates? __________________