2012-02-27, 12:00 | Link #81 |
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I'm sure he can now, but he couldn't back when he fought bee and hachibi with MS. Sasuke's smart, he would have just controlled the 8 tails with MS rather than fight him if it was a possibility. So I don't think any MS can control kyuubi if it cant control hachibi. maybe I'm wrong?
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2012-02-27, 15:48 | Link #82 |
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But didn't Tobi riped the Kyubi out of Naruto's mother with a single regular Sharingan? Doesn't that prove the only thing needed to control the Kyubi or any other Biju is a single 3 outer-dotted Sharingan?
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2012-02-27, 16:28 | Link #83 | |
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for instance, kakashi has MS but I'm positive he can't control the kyuubi, just like sasuke wasnt able to control the hachibi in the past with MS |
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2012-02-27, 16:38 | Link #84 |
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I think Tobi just broke the seal and only after the kyubi came out did he start controlling. And the reason that Sasuke couldn't control the Hachibi is because he was inside Bee. If one falls into genjutsu the other would knock him out of it.
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2012-02-27, 18:03 | Link #85 | |
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2012-02-27, 18:20 | Link #86 | |
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Tobi being able to control the kyuubi without having the MS eye is however quite interesting. But that doesn't mean that random sharingan guys can control legendary creatures that entire ninja villages can't control. It wouldn't make any sense. |
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2012-02-27, 18:49 | Link #87 | |
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Who's to say that other countries haven't targeted the Uchiha? Everyone seems to know Kakashi like the back of their own hand since the beginning of the series. Kidnapping ninjas from other villages are extremely difficult. You have to remember that that attempts on Hinata and Kushina was stopped. The current Raikage saw those as high degree failures to his village. It was not something that was brushed off. Lives were ended for failure. And it doesn't help the kidnappers that each person being targeted is highly capable of fending off attacks. Before the new gen hit puberty, only a handful of people were capable of fighting Kakashi. I think they were more occupied with trying killing him than trying to rake his eye out. The Uchiha clan was also seperated as well as being guarded by the entire Konoha village. Then you have Comrade-killing-Nins from every village like Kisame that would slaughter and destroy the eyes than give it to other villages. I'm guessing thats Anbu-Roots job for Konoha. Another reason the Uchiha was seperated while being guarded in Konoha was because the eyes were said to control the Kyuubi. I agree that not all 5 year olds with sharingans can run up to Naruto and control him. But surely a couple have reached the ability to control the beast. Each and every battle-ready member of Uchiha hangs out by that stone tablet with instructions on how to control the Kyuubi like the water coolers in offices. Last edited by HiddenMessage; 2012-02-27 at 19:07. |
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2012-02-28, 05:49 | Link #89 | |
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He didn't use the Sharingan to take remove Kurama, he used it to control him after he was removed.
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2012-02-28, 11:05 | Link #92 |
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The Edo Tensei body is made from the materials of another person's body. The form is created by the soul of the person being Edo Tensei'd occupying the body, which would logically suggest that it should be whatever the Edo Tensei'd guy remembers his physical body as right before death. This is why Itachi and Nagato both have their eyes and the Third Raikage retains his scar despite having amazing regenerative abilities as a zombie.
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2012-02-28, 11:23 | Link #93 |
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One fact that we can get from this:
You will need either a Sharingan (and upgrades) or Bijuu power to be able to fight properly. Otherwise you will end up useless. Kishi should just save time and let Naruto vs all. Or maybe he prefers to milk his manga by showing how Sharingan > every single skill, brains and strategy, Bijuu > every single skill, brains and strategy, then Bijuu Naruto > Sharingan. Edo Tensei is not a problem. The problem is does the Edo Tensei'd zombie has a Sharingan or Bijuu? I doubt Kishi has any more tricks. Time to end the manga. |
2012-02-28, 13:31 | Link #94 | |
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I see what you mean though since all the main villains currently have sharingan power now apart from Kabuto who seems to be after Sasuke's sharingan anyway. Last edited by TimeMask; 2012-02-28 at 14:07. |
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2012-02-28, 14:20 | Link #95 |
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The manga didn't provide us with enough panals but episode 248 clearly showed us that Tobi triggered the effects of his Sharingan and uses its effect to draw the Kyuubi out of his host. The Kyuubi was controlled before he was out in the open.
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BTW i wonder if Kakashi read it and gained some knowledge about how to awaken the MS in his eye, and of course since he is a genius he succeeded doing it in an alternative way. It would make sense, because after Sasuke left the village, and Kakashi was crushed by Itachi's power, it would be logical that Kakashi begins investigating the secrets of the Uchiha. And i think that he knows other things too, and because of that Kishimoto can give him more screen time helping Naruto against all these sharingan guys (Tobi,Madara,Sasuke). |
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2012-02-28, 16:10 | Link #97 | |
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Tobi's Izanagi is infused with the Shodai Hokage's power too. Every Sharingan is capable of using Izanagi but only those with both the Uchiha + Senju can use a Extended Izanagi. If you had magic powers, would you share it with everybody that you know? The Sharingans were probably stockpiled in underground basements. Danzo kept it all to himself so he can replace the ones he used for Izanagi. Tobi had more Sharingans in fish tanks than a Aquarium have fishes. If one has to die before being resurrected by Edo-Tensei then Tobi is not Madara. Therefore atleast 2 people has controlled the Kyuubi. And you yourself say the Shodai-Hokage took control of it afterwards, meaning there's atleast 3 that controlled it. I wasn't saying someone with the Surname like Washington can walk in and read the Great Uchiha Stone Tablet. I was saying all those with Sharingans either had the birthright to read it or the people of the Uchiha clan share the same right. Quote:
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2012-02-29, 01:03 | Link #99 |
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Chapter 576 thread has been opened. Please move all relevant discussion to the new thread.
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