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Old 2015-02-27, 13:06   Link #5181
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Ah, screw it, IS is now a RomCom, the actual IS related things is just the sub-plot.

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Old 2015-02-27, 13:11   Link #5182
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And yet the Rom-Com is seriously failing. You yourself pointed out that they fall in love, do a 180, then it's the boot for them. Little to no development at all, and it doesn't make you feel emotionally invested in a girl t make you want to cheer for her.

The closest I got was Cecilia. Even though she felt pretty shallow at first. She got a bit better during cannonball fast. Sadly she reverted though so... DAMMIT IZURU! Rin during SIlver Gospel was also good.

Houki developments are the exceptions as everything that is supposed to improve the general outlook on her feels really cheap and handed out, kinda like her IS
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Old 2015-02-27, 13:18   Link #5183
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Well... at least she now acknowledges that illegal fishermen are also people.
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Old 2015-02-28, 17:34   Link #5184
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hey, do u guys think ichika is like the acadamy's conscious?
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Old 2015-03-01, 09:45   Link #5185
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Any word for the next volume or the author is in a slump?
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Old 2015-03-01, 09:49   Link #5186
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I wouldn't say he is the Academy's concious. The Harem does have values and morals, but their are sightly different from society's and easily twisted to achieve their goals. Like Houki, who would have let the illegal fishermen die to finish the fight with Silver Gospel.
In brief, Ichika is the normal one with the normal concious.
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Old 2015-03-01, 15:31   Link #5187
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so if he dies in the crossfire, everyone at the academy would go rogue
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Old 2015-03-03, 17:36   Link #5188
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Not everyone. There's must be some normal people out there...
Yamada sensei is pretty much OK, though she'd follow Chifuyu to stop her from destroying the world. Because a world without Ichika is simply not the world at all.
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Old 2015-03-03, 19:52   Link #5189
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i was referring to the students only is what i meant to say
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Old 2015-03-08, 04:04   Link #5190
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Chifuyu is strong because Ichika exists. Losing Ichika, causes her to lose her center, and that for a martial artist is equal to losing all your skill.

She'd be nothing, not even a dictator, if Ichika dies. Because unlike what comics teach you, you always become weaker to almost nothing in kung fu if you lose the foundation.
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Old 2015-03-08, 12:35   Link #5191
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Anyways, this is my opinion, as long ichika is the only guy thatcan pilot an IS unit, the academy is not right for him
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Old 2015-03-08, 13:00   Link #5192
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IS has two distinct weaknesses at a story. Many other minor ones but 2 distinct ones
1. Having a harem where there's literally zero indication or minimal indication of a "lead girl" or "end girl" is an absolutely foolish mistake especially when a harem ending is impossible because you get what you have which is a dense fool.
2. If you have number 1 you need to replace it with incredible action and a great storyline both of which IS has rather brilliantly failed to do.
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Old 2015-03-08, 15:56   Link #5193
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i know is this, (my opinion) before ichika came to the academy the girls didn't probably get along with each other, but when he came the girls became ya know what other countries leaders couldn't do stick together
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Old 2015-03-08, 18:59   Link #5194
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IS has two distinct weaknesses at a story. Many other minor ones but 2 distinct ones
1. Having a harem where there's literally zero indication or minimal indication of a "lead girl" or "end girl" is an absolutely foolish mistake especially when a harem ending is impossible because you get what you have which is a dense fool.
2. If you have number 1 you need to replace it with incredible action and a great storyline both of which IS has rather brilliantly failed to do.
Are you kidding me? 'Zero indication' of end girl? We've had several indications, it's just that it's not tastefully done. Several points supporting Houki:

1) First girl introduced, and also first girl to know Ichika in backstory - and LNs these days tend to have First Girl Win.

2) As shown in that VR arc, she knows Ichika better than others does (figuring out the fake).
2.5) Related, that is because Houki is portrayed in a way that she doesn't focus only on wanting Ichika to go all R18 on her *censored*. Look at the other girls' dreams such as Charlotte's for example >.>

3) She literally have the best support in getting Ichika out of all the girls, ie Tabane. A 4th Gen IS that's designed to be Ichika's best partner is miles ahead of what other girls can pull off as a country representative candidate, or in Tatenashi's case the actual country representative. But, well, given Ichika's denseness also extends to fighting to a extent so he doesn't choose Houki based on that, and Tabane isn't going to be able to help that.


On the flipside, I disagree not having a clear end girl is the issue in a story, it's having the protagonist being incredibly dense like Ichika is. There are many other stories out there that have a end girl settled from Vol1, to the point the end result has to be shoehorned in ignoring things like logic, much to the detriment of story. Those of you who have read my posts about the last few volumes in the Hidan no Aria LN thread might know what I'm talking about.

As for 'incredible action and a great storyline', well that's a given for most stories to be good No disagreement from me on this one.
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Old 2015-03-09, 05:33   Link #5195
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Are you kidding me? 'Zero indication' of end girl? We've had several indications, it's just that it's not tastefully done. Several points supporting Houki:

1) First girl introduced, and also first girl to know Ichika in backstory - and LNs these days tend to have First Girl Win.

2) As shown in that VR arc, she knows Ichika better than others does (figuring out the fake).
2.5) Related, that is because Houki is portrayed in a way that she doesn't focus only on wanting Ichika to go all R18 on her *censored*. Look at the other girls' dreams such as Charlotte's for example >.>

3) She literally have the best support in getting Ichika out of all the girls, ie Tabane. A 4th Gen IS that's designed to be Ichika's best partner is miles ahead of what other girls can pull off as a country representative candidate, or in Tatenashi's case the actual country representative. But, well, given Ichika's denseness also extends to fighting to a extent so he doesn't choose Houki based on that, and Tabane isn't going to be able to help that.


On the flipside, I disagree not having a clear end girl is the issue in a story, it's having the protagonist being incredibly dense like Ichika is. There are many other stories out there that have a end girl settled from Vol1, to the point the end result has to be shoehorned in ignoring things like logic, much to the detriment of story. Those of you who have read my posts about the last few volumes in the Hidan no Aria LN thread might know what I'm talking about.

As for 'incredible action and a great storyline', well that's a given for most stories to be good No disagreement from me on this one.
heh you have a point about Houki and i can live with that. I'm a distinct believer that ichika's denseness is because of the fact he likes houki and he's aware that acting on his feelings would ruin the team dynamic
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:29   Link #5196
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well ichika was the one that cause the girls to stick together, he's also can tear them up too (since they have feelings for the young orimura boy)
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:57   Link #5197
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does anyone has info about the LN series yet?
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Old 2015-03-10, 07:26   Link #5198
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i remember one thing now there was a romance part

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Old 2015-03-10, 16:12   Link #5199
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not unless count the failed seduction tactics from ichika's harem
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Old 2015-03-10, 19:50   Link #5200
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so basically ichika were able to give the girls a reason to stick together, he's also a reason for the girls to dismantle that bond
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