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Lolipopo · 2008-09-07, 10:20

It wasn't to speak since he didn't want to speak...I just wished to stay with her a little longer...how cute

I'm shocked. Seriously...

lovecakecookies · 2008-09-07, 10:21

Shocked at what?

TheDisruptiveOne · 2008-09-07, 10:21

Lelouch is clearly an asshole of epic proportions. We should all be happy for Kallen. She is finally free from the stranglehold he had over her.

bladeofdarkness · 2008-09-07, 10:22

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Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

I forgot what the key words for this episode...

do you understand what shnizle has done

the reason this is gino is that the "you" is kimi
which few people on the show use and which gino uses when talking to kallen

sandykins · 2008-09-07, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Lolipopo

It wasn't to speak since he didn't want to speak...I just wished to stay with her a little longer...how cute

I'm shocked. Seriously...

Hmm, indeed. It's cute. Well, this bit cheered me up. There was no need to take a LONGER way. :P

TheDisruptiveOne · 2008-09-07, 10:24

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

do you understand what shnizle has done

the reason this is gino is that the "you" is kimi
which few people on the show use and which gino uses when talking to kallen

No definitive evidence. Lelouch could be saying it someone. He's used kimi before. Pretty much any Britannian character could be the speaker.

Lolipopo · 2008-09-07, 10:26

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Originally Posted by lovecakecookies

Shocked at what?

Don't you get the meaning of Lelouch's line ?

He wants to walk longer with her that's it, the meaning can be clearly deeply...
Lelouch, nervous ? Not credible. Lelouch, wish to talk ? He didn't open his mouth at all.
The only reason could be that he knew that he was going to loose her and wanted to enjoy this a little longer...

When I read this I firstly believe it was a fanfiction ....
No, this episode was really good to me, it's really a relief.

Sandykins : No reason at all ! Except...to be with her a little longer

Kovensky · 2008-09-07, 10:30

This line of dialogue was weird:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.20,0:18:42.14,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I will be the one to take down Lelouch!

Now we can only wonder what does she mean... Does she mean killing him? Putting some sense into him? As I see it, she still didn't get her answer. I don't think she intends to kill her love interest, even after his cold reaction; she will realize his intent sooner or later.

bladeofdarkness · 2008-09-07, 10:33

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Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

No definitive evidence. Lelouch could be saying it someone. He's used kimi before. Pretty much any Britannian character could be the speaker.

he only used it on kallen (that i know)
and thats not likely in the next ep

scarlet512 · 2008-09-07, 10:33

Does anyone have Kallen's gum line again? I kinda forgot the exact words. Spoiler it if you like.

sandykins · 2008-09-07, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Lolipopo

Sandykins : No reason at all ! Except...to be with her a little longer

Now that I've watched the subs, I think that there is merit to your observations/interpretations regarding the kiss scene.

D a m i e n · 2008-09-07, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Kovensky

As I see it, she still didn't get her answer. I don't think she intends to kill her love interest, even after his cold reaction; she will realize his intent sooner or later.

She got her answer, he didnt react to her kiss he didnt open his mouth during all the time they walked (even though i think he wanted to enjoy as much as possible the last time he d be able to spend time with her). She understood she was not part of his life. The fact that he cares about her isnt enought, one cannot accept a half-hearted answer/feelings, she wont make compromise anymore.
The deal is over and even if she still has feelings for him she wont want to be associated with him.
It s sad but she missed her chance by waiting this long to clear things up if she had asked by eps 12 or so things might have been different but now his mind is somewhere, pretty much like it has always been.

Kovensky · 2008-09-07, 10:43

@scarlet512: what is a gum line? anyway, here is the whole dialog:

Spoiler for Lelouch x Kallen dialogue:

bladeofdarkness · 2008-09-07, 10:44

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Originally Posted by D a m i e n

She got her answer, he didnt react to her kiss he didnt open his mouth during all the time they walked (even though i think he wanted to enjoy as much as possible the last time he d be able to spend time with her). She understood she was not part of his life. The fact that he cares about her isnt enought, one cannot accept a half-hearted answer/feelings, she wont make compromise anymore.
The deal is over and even if she still has feelings for him she wont want to be associated with him.
It s sad but she missed her chance by waiting this long to clear things up if she had asked by eps 12 or so things might have been different but now his mind is somewhere, pretty much like it has always been.

ep 12
when she was in jail ?

and of all the shit he did this ep (and he did a great deal of it) there was only one thing that made him show remorse
take a wild guess

TheDisruptiveOne · 2008-09-07, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Kovensky

This line of dialogue was weird:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.20,0:18:42.14,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I will be the one to take down Lelouch!

Now we can only wonder what does she mean... Does she mean killing him? Putting some sense into him? As I see it, she still didn't get her answer. I don't think she intends to kill her love interest, even after his cold reaction; she will realize his intent sooner or later.

I think Kallen truly intends to bring him down. His sins are numerous and he used everyone. She can't just forgive him for that. He's a menace to the world.

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Originally Posted by D a m i e n

She got her answer, he didnt react to her kiss he didnt open his mouth during all the time they walked (even though i think he wanted to enjoy as much as possible the last time he d be able to spend time with her). She understood she was not part of his life. The fact that he cares about her isnt enought, one cannot accept a half-hearted answer/feelings, she wont make compromise anymore.
The deal is over and even if she still has feelings for him she wont want to be associated with him.
It s sad but she missed her chance by waiting this long to clear things up if she had asked by eps 12 or so things might have been different but now his mind is somewhere, pretty much like it has always been.

Hard post to argue with. That was an ultimatum from Kallen. And Lelouch discarded it and trampled over Kallen's feelings. Not responding to her at all was insulting.

Witacume · 2008-09-07, 10:45

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Originally Posted by Kovensky

@scarlet512: what is a gum line? anyway, here is the whole dialog:

Spoiler for Lelouch x Kallen dialogue:

its not there.

TheDisruptiveOne · 2008-09-07, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Witacume

its not there.

Irrelevant. The gum card line is meant for Gino.

FoxxFireArt · 2008-09-07, 10:52

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Originally Posted by Kovensky

@scarlet512: what is a gum line? anyway, here is the whole dialog:

Spoiler for Lelouch x Kallen dialogue:

Thanks for the translation. It's interesting that it was Lelouch who asked for the long way. Seems he wanted some time alone with her.

Kovensky · 2008-09-07, 10:52

/me greps for 'Kallen' on his script

Spoiler for All Kallen lines (with other chars where relevant):

@Witacume: it would be more helpful if I knew what a gum line is :/
@FoxxFireArt: it is not my translation, but thanks anyway

Narona · 2008-09-07, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Kovensky

/me greps for 'Kallen' on his script

Spoiler for All Kallen lines (with other chars where relevant):

@Witacume: it would be more helpful if I knew what a gum line is

Gum line

Spoiler for .:

2008-09-07, 10:20	Link #8321
Lolipopo Srsly ? Artist Join Date: Apr 2008	It wasn't to speak since he didn't want to speak...I just wished to stay with her a little longer...how cute I'm shocked. Seriously... __________________

2008-09-07, 10:21	Link #8322
lovecakecookies Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Shocked at what? __________________

2008-09-07, 10:30	Link #8328
Kovensky Timer Fansubber Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brazil Age: 34	This line of dialogue was weird: Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.20,0:18:42.14,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I will be the one to take down Lelouch! Now we can only wonder what does she mean... Does she mean killing him? Putting some sense into him? As I see it, she still didn't get her answer. I don't think she intends to kill her love interest, even after his cold reaction; she will realize his intent sooner or later. __________________ MPlayer FTW! Get my win32 build here; now with multithreading /me is usually idling on #mplayer@chat.freenode.net or #cccp@irc.rizon.net \SHAMEIMARU/

2008-09-07, 10:43	Link #8333
Kovensky Timer Fansubber Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brazil Age: 34	@scarlet512: what is a gum line? anyway, here is the whole dialog: Spoiler for Lelouch x Kallen dialogue: Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.34,0:12:48.00,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Lelouch... Why? Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.00,0:12:49.01,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,Nice to meet you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.10,0:12:53.54,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,You are Captain Kallen Kouzuki of the Black Knights, am I correct? Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.13,0:12:58.16,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Yes. I shall guide you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.40,0:13:01.05,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,Do you mind if we take a longer way? Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.05,0:13:01.58,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Uh? Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.64,0:13:06.13,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,I feel quite nervous, and would like to walk a little. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.19,0:13:09.30,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I understand. <cut to people at the ikaruga> Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.16,0:13:39.37,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,How nostalgic... Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.17,0:13:44.29,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I... am thankful to you. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.10,0:13:50.21,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Without you, we would have died in the Shinjuku Ghetto. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.65,0:13:52.63,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,And the Black Knights would never have existed. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.03,0:13:59.08,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I was happy. Being needed by Zero was an honor, and a pride. Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.95,0:14:04.55,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,But when I found out Zero was you, Lelouch, I lost my grip on things... Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.14,0:14:07.57,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,But by seeing you fight against all odds against Britannia... Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.91,0:14:12.01,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,What do you plan on doing... Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.95,0:14:15.03,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,by allying with Suzaku this time? Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.86,0:14:18.27,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Do you just want power? Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.90,0:14:20.03,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Or rank? Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.70,0:14:23.04,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Or is it just another game? Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.28,0:14:28.07,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,During the Black Rebellion, Ougi asked me to protect you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.58,0:14:32.07,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,He said that you were the one who carried on the dream of my brother. Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.67,0:14:38.11,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Lelouch, what do you think of me? Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.51,0:14:42.14,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Why did you tell me to "live on" aboard the Ikaruga? <kiss> Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.29,0:15:01.58,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Farewell, Lelouch. Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.61,0:15:06.46,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,The High Council meeting will take place in the P.E. building. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.65,0:15:14.76,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,Farewell, Kallen. __________________ MPlayer FTW! Get my win32 build here; now with multithreading /me is usually idling on #mplayer@chat.freenode.net or #cccp@irc.rizon.net \SHAMEIMARU/

2008-09-07, 10:52	Link #8339
Kovensky Timer Fansubber Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brazil Age: 34	/me greps for 'Kallen' on his script Spoiler for All Kallen lines (with other chars where relevant): Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.13,0:08:24.72,Default,Announcer,0000,000 0,0000,,We apologize for this interruption, but we shall now relay a broadcast from the Holy Empire of Britannia to you. Comment: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.89,0:08:28.25,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,That's the Lancelot! Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.58,0:10:15.00,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,I announce to the world! Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.00,0:10:15.92,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Lelouch! Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.34,0:12:48.00,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Lelouch... Why? Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.00,0:12:49.01,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,Nice to meet you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.10,0:12:53.54,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,You are Captain Kallen Kouzuki of the Black Knights, am I correct? Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.13,0:12:58.16,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Yes. I shall guide you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.40,0:13:01.05,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,Do you mind if we take a longer way? Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.05,0:13:01.58,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Uh? Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.64,0:13:06.13,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,I feel quite nervous, and would like to walk a little. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.19,0:13:09.30,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I understand. Comment: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.13,0:13:13.34,Default,Ougi,0000,0000,000 0,,Is Zero... Lelouch planning to do something here? Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.63,0:13:17.07,Default,Viletta,0000,0000, 0000,,Impossible. All of the Secret Information Division's systems have been taken down. Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.07,0:13:20.94,Default,Hon-Gu,0000,0000,0000,,All guards have been explicitly told to wear goggles. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.24,0:13:22.68,Default,Hon-Gu,0000,0000,0000,,We have no problems with measures against the Geass. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.05,0:13:29.53,Default,Chiba,0000,0000,00 00,,Kouzuki requested that if she is suspected to have fallen under the Geass, we would snipe her down. Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.78,0:13:31.76,Default,Tamaki,0000,0000,0 000,,Aren't you all worrying too much? Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.76,0:13:33.78,Default,Tamaki,0000,0000,0 000,,He came to become one of our allies, after all. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.16,0:13:39.37,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,How nostalgic... Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.17,0:13:44.29,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I... am thankful to you. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.10,0:13:50.21,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Without you, we would have died in the Shinjuku Ghetto. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.65,0:13:52.63,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,And the Black Knights would never have existed. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.03,0:13:59.08,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I was happy. Being needed by Zero was an honor, and a pride. Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.95,0:14:04.55,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,But when I found out Zero was you, Lelouch, I lost my grip on things... Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.14,0:14:07.57,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,But by seeing you fight against all odds against Britannia... Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.91,0:14:12.01,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,What do you plan on doing... Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.95,0:14:15.03,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,by allying with Suzaku this time? Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.86,0:14:18.27,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Do you just want power? Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.90,0:14:20.03,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Or rank? Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.70,0:14:23.04,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Or is it just another game? Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.28,0:14:28.07,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,During the Black Rebellion, Ougi asked me to protect you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.58,0:14:32.07,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,He said that you were the one who carried on the dream of my brother. Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.67,0:14:38.11,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Lelouch, what do you think of me? Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.51,0:14:42.14,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Why did you tell me to "live on" aboard the Ikaruga? Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.29,0:15:01.58,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Farewell, Lelouch. Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.61,0:15:06.46,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,The High Council meeting will take place in the P.E. building. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.65,0:15:14.76,Default,Lelouch,0000,0000, 0000,,Farewell, Kallen. Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.32,0:17:35.26,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,This is no good! Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.26,0:17:36.65,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,He did have something pla- Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.94,0:17:39.77,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,Damn it! Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.53,0:18:39.83,Default,Xing-Que,0000,0000,0000,,Pull back! You can't take part in this, Kouzuki! Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.20,0:18:42.14,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,I will be the one to take down Lelouch! Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.14,0:18:44.89,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,And the only thing capable of fighting against this Lancelot is the Guren! Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.30,0:18:48.41,Default,Xing-Que,0000,0000,0000,,If a battle were to occur here, we would lose the representatives of every country! Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.86,0:18:50.69,Default,Xing-Que,0000,0000,0000,,If we were to suddenly lose each country's ruler... Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.94,0:18:52.77,Default,Kallen,0000,0000,0 000,,But Lady Tian-Zi is also in danger! @Witacume: it would be more helpful if I knew what a gum line is :/ @FoxxFireArt: it is not my translation, but thanks anyway __________________ MPlayer FTW! Get my win32 build here; now with multithreading /me is usually idling on #mplayer@chat.freenode.net or #cccp@irc.rizon.net \SHAMEIMARU/

2008-09-07, 10:21	Link #8323
TheDisruptiveOne Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Lelouch is clearly an asshole of epic proportions. We should all be happy for Kallen. She is finally free from the stranglehold he had over her.

2008-09-07, 10:33	Link #8330
scarlet512 カレン愛してるよ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hong Kong	Does anyone have Kallen's gum line again? I kinda forgot the exact words. Spoiler it if you like.