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And far more likely, she'd end up with a prison record longer than Haruki is tall. You know, with the blatant disregard she shows most laws. |
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2008-12-02, 01:30 | Link #262 | |||
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Well, if that's your stance, I won't argue on that. Just that my uncle's job is to save lives. I'm nowhere near that. I'm in a similar job too, but attached to a school.
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__________________________________________________ ______________________________________ I figured out why so many otakus are adherents of Haruhiism. They realise that most deities (if not all) are all large, overpowering and hard to get into a personal relationship into. These deities are not someone that you can just say 'hey' to any day. They can't even be spotted in flesh on our Earth, that's for sure. [Leave Jesus out of this question for now - Jesus has came and will come again for Armageddon - but not any other time - and when Jesus comes again, he'd be HUGE, not like the last time he came in AD0] But Haruhi? Otakus believe that they will be able to bump into her someday and maybe say a simple 'hi' or something. The perverts will of course, want to touch her. Well, I know because the school that I'm attached to (for only half-year - that's how my job goes) has many Haruhiists. It also has Sasakists, Yukists, etc... It is this desire to have a personal God that they turn to Haruhiism. In fact, this wave is worse than the EVA one where Shinji was at the center. Far worse. My uncle has been in this line long enough, and the figures are shocking. In the EVA period, there were more cases but less suicides. THis time round, there's less cases coming in (maybe more professionals now?) but larger percentage of suicides... Last edited by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya; 2008-12-02 at 01:47. |
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2008-12-02, 01:55 | Link #263 | |||
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You mentioned people who wanted to die and be reborn into a world where Haruhi really is god. Imagine how you would feel if you found out that someone had killed themself because of something you made. Quote:
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2008-12-02, 02:06 | Link #264 | ||||||
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And yes, Otakus, especially the Hikikomori that have chosen to withdraw from social life, often seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement due to various personal and social factors in their lives. They don't know that even if Haruhi exists, she'd not be a deity anyway, nowhere even close to the Virgin Mary. Quote:
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2008-12-02, 02:30 | Link #265 | |
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I understand that you've dealt with people who take this stuff far too seriously, but I'm operating under the assumption that all of us here are sufficiently stable that none of this is going to push us over the edge. How are the ones who can't be convinced out of it reported? I mean, over here in America if somebody killed him/herself over a TV show, that would make the news. |
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2008-12-02, 05:14 | Link #267 |
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There's always a question of who's taking it more seriously. I could be serious, but it seems my opposition is even more serious lol
Can a fictional character not be worshipped? Should the worshippers of the Monkey God stop worshipping? They worshipping a character of a famous piece of Chinese literature, Journery to the West. The Monkey God has shrines all over Asia and I think some in the west as well. Religion works in many ways, how gods are worshipped is different as well. You guys are relating Haruhism to how you view Christianity and your ways. I who is not relating it to any religion is just someone who followed Haruhi-sama's ways and so I'm a follower of her and I call myself a worshipper of her. Is the word worship that different in your point of view and from mine? I certainly do think so. Even for normal fans, they all the adoration towards their idols, a form of worship. The word worship does not have a single form, worshipping can work in many ways. Does worshipping mean you must pray to your god to thank for them for your every meal? Besides Christianity, I don't know any other religion that does the same. To me religion is a just a form of belief, a way to follow and its towards a certain figure or being. @Kaisos, since you watched FLCL like what, 40 times over? You should know that Mamimi chose her god, from the fire god to Canti. Gods may not always choose their followers, they can't. Its the individual himself who chooses in who to believe. When there are people who believe and follow you, you are a god in their eyes, even if you're not a god.
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2008-12-02, 05:23 | Link #268 | |||
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I suddenly feel like a jerk for supporting Haruhi x Kyon now. Maybe I should back up Sasaki like Sute443 and Shimathekat... |
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2008-12-02, 05:42 | Link #269 | |
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I'm quite sure that I understand the full scope of Haruhism how bad it has gone than you did. Because you can't seem to understand which part of the scope I'm in. I won't try to explain it too much to you because the reputation of Haruhism has been spoiled by too many black sheep. And people generally just see Haruhists as a single group and thinks all of them are as bad as the other. Let's just say that originally Haruhism was just a small group of people when episode 1, 2 and 3 aired. This small group of people are docile and fun loving Haruhists as we called ourselves. We love nothing more than to talk about the maths and science equations and examine every single frame of the anime, discuss about what Haruhi is and how we Haruhists can spread Haruhism. We on AS, here, are originally what I considered the most 'pure' and fun loving Haruhists, I still consider the same after comparing to all the Haruhism gather sites I've seen. As the anime went on, popularity grew exponentially, because it seems that Haruhism is too influential. With popularity there comes lots of criticism and fanatism that rose from counter criticism. And especially because of how densely detailed Haruhi was, there were too much 'stupid' criticism from people who have no eye for details. There was a time of much arguments, but of course died down nowadays as the popularity drops. During those times of tough debates, people have grown to take up very strong views as they dig deeper, some have gone fanatically strong in their views and formed what you're reading as the most disagreeable people and mindless coporate whores or simply bad Haruhists. I myself is a fanatic but I didn't go as far as those people. Simply because I chose to just stay on AS and didn't take it to the blogs, other forums and such. When Haruhi aired, it was just about the time when blogs was on the rise, it was blogs that destroyed Haruhism. Just like how blogs destroyed Code Geass. Actually I think I'll just stop here, its either you get or don't. And this is one of the reasons I believe I didn't become like the truly fanatical Haruhists. Its because I know how to stop myself.
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I'll be moving to Uji, Kyoto (Oh no, it's Kyoani's HQ). I think there's less chance of such rabid fanboys there... I hope. I'll still be doing what I do, and I'll still be helping out troubled people. I've become sort of a specialist of Kyoani's rabid fanboy/girl cases in my circle... LOLz. I hope the Haruhiists aren't that may, but it seems otherwise, so only God Knows... (oh yes, pun intended) Still, I hope none of you become as rabid as those I see in the major cities of Japan. And thank you for this lively debate! |
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2008-12-02, 05:59 | Link #271 | |
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(The original way we used to talk in this Haruhi subforum)
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2008-12-02, 06:02 | Link #272 | |
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I hope it's not her will to make me deal with more rabid fanboys/girls in Uji... but it's where Kyoani's HQ is after all... Side question - what brand of beer do you think Haruhi's drinking, and why? Last edited by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya; 2008-12-02 at 07:36. |
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2008-12-02, 17:31 | Link #274 | |
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But you can't stop people from becoming a Haruhist even nowadays lol
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2008-12-03, 06:28 | Link #277 | |
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If you don't want to answer, then just leave it alone... Edit: No, worse still now. I've been attached to a school in damn it, NISHINOMIYA! The home of the SOS Brigade! SOS, no really! Why!? Last edited by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya; 2008-12-03 at 09:41. |
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Oh yeah, ISML's slots for 09 are out. SCHEDULE DRAWING RESULTS - Tiers 1, 2, 3 Yuki is in Div. 1 Mikuru is in Div. 3 Blue Haruhi.... W.C!? Last edited by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya; 2008-12-03 at 19:57. |
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