To Aru Majutsu no Index - Character Discussion - Kamijo Touma

[zeniselv]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

I want Touma to either go to heaven or hell and go wild there

though on a serious manner. They can't find the body even if 3 major factions of the magic side tried to search him on the arctic ocean.

How big is the arctic ocean for magicians to not find his body?

I can only think of someone arrive there to get his body before someone appear or someone is lying and took him already.

well if someone have the chance of finding him is the science side, since any magic the magic side use to search for him would get sogebu-ed.

also aleisteir sended ppl for touma, so if hes there he migth the one that saved him, adter all IB migth be matured enough from what fiamma saw.

[tsunade666]

Imagine Breaker stay the same at least from what I can tell the one who matures is Touma himself. If he can suppress the power which is stronger than fiamma.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

I want Touma to either go to heaven or hell and go wild there

though on a serious manner. They can't find the body even if 3 major factions of the magic side tried to search him on the arctic ocean.

How big is the arctic ocean for magicians to not find his body?

I can only think of someone arrive there to get his body before someone appear or someone is lying and took him already.

Or somehow he can breathe underwater and is still on the ocean bed....

[giorno]

Originally Posted by Flere821

I think the author's not going to throw Touma into leading a antagonist organisation

but it would be different if Touma turned into a villain and joined Aleister

[tsunade666]

But that's the same as Yuuji turning bad in shakugan no shana. I also think of that before but when I heard news about the latest shakugan no shana I had doubts it would lead into that too despite me liking to see index and mikoto vs touma.

[zeniselv]

Originally Posted by giorno

but it would be different if Touma turned into a villain and joined Aleister

its actually pretty common , and even more in ligth novels.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

But that's the same as Yuuji turning bad in shakugan no shana. I also think of that before but when I heard news about the latest shakugan no shana I had doubts it would lead into that too despite me liking to see index and mikoto vs touma.

Yuuji joining SnH because he has similar aims is understandable....


Crowley and Touma are different as night and day.

[tsunade666]

Unlike Index. I haven't read shakugan no shana novels. I just learned that from flere so I would stop from that point because I don't know what's happening and being having the same aim. I wonder.

But I got to agree with Touma and Aleister being night and day but Touma and Fiamma are also like that too but the way they do things can be the same in such ways.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Unlike Index. I haven't read shakugan no shana novels. I just learned that from flere so I would stop from that point because I don't know what's happening and being having the same aim. I wonder.

But I got to agree with Touma and Aleister being night and day but Touma and Fiamma are also like that too but the way they do things can be the same in such ways.

Fianma is different...he actually cares for humanity.....Aleister, he just wants power and mastery over Aiwass and AIM. Other than that, he's an emotionless bastard.

[tsunade666]

what if Aleister had a reason for it?

[giorno]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Yuuji joining SnH because he has similar aims is understandable....


Crowley and Touma are different as night and day.

exactly. The point would be to turn Touma into a completely different character, and see how the others would react to it

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by giorno

exactly. The point would be to turn Touma into a completely different character, and see how the others would react to it

memory loss and brainwashing by none other than your friendly neighborhood aleister



Also question. I looked at the beginning of this topic and found people views on touma harsh. Just want to know if your views on the anime adaptation of touma have changed?

[Hell_ping]

Originally Posted by Flere821

No, but the opposite did happen once. Mikoto once tried to electrocute them for making Touma smash face-first into Itsuwa's chest (The scene is too hilarious, so I'll wait for the actual translations go up on Baka-Tsuki before comment further ). This is in Vol16 Ch1, so everyone start praying for Teh Ping to get there soon

Well, I've done that part, so shoot.

[Salt]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

Also question. I looked at the beginning of this topic and found people views on touma harsh. Just want to know if your views on the anime adaptation of touma have changed?

In my unsolicited opinion, personally I find Touma boring.

I guess I'm just burned out on the "Hero of justice and all that's right" archetype, that seem to lead nearly every shounen anime.

I really want to see more protagonists with an "edge" of some sort - a dark side.

Lelouch was the last protagonist in a shounen anime that I liked.

Half the time I end up "cheering" for the less than wholesome co-lead characters. ><
eg. Accelerator, Sasuke ... etc

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Salt

In my unsolicited opinion, personally I find Touma boring.

I guess I'm just burned out on the "Hero of justice and all that's right" archetype, that seem to lead nearly every shounen anime.

I really want to see more protagonists with an "edge" of some sort - a dark side.

Lelouch was the last protagonist in a shounen anime that I liked.

Half the time I end up "cheering" for the less than wholesome co-lead characters. ><
eg. Accelerator, Sasuke ... etc

So anti-heroes.

He might actually become one. sorta

[Salt]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

So anti-heroes.

He might actually become one. sorta

Pretty much I suppose. ><

At least add a little darkness to the character.

Another thing that annoys me of such "hero" characters, they dash into any situation head first and somehow comes out ahead every damn time.

If Touma is going to turn antihero, he is going to need a major 180 degree attitude change, that guy is about as wholesome "guaranteed to get into heaven" as you can get.

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Salt

Pretty much I suppose. ><

At least add a little darkness to the character.

Another thing that annoys me of such "hero" characters, they dash into any situation head first and somehow comes out ahead every damn time.

If Touma is going to turn antihero, he is going to need a major 180 degree attitude change, that guy is about as wholesome "guaranteed to get into heaven" as you can get.

what i like about him which i have mentioned a few pages back in this forum is that he isnt a little bitch like some people who have harems. Like in that samurai show that came out. His sense of justice actually gets better(like it grows on you).

Also, have you read the novels?

[Salt]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

what i like about him which i have mentioned a few pages back in this forum is that he isnt a little bitch like some people who have harems. Like in that samurai show that came out. His sense of justice actually gets better(like it grows on you).

Also, have you read the novels?

Sadly no. Everything I know is from the anime and wikis.

Morally perfect "Superman" (literal Superman; Sups is practically the modern standard for the trope) heroes have kind of worn thin on me.

At least Mitoko has her moments of doubt and regret... Well, that and she is cute. ^.^

PS: anti-heros don't necessarily have to be 24/7 emo. A little mess-up-ness like Batman goes a long way.

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Salt

Sadly no. Everything I know is from the anime and wikis.

Morally perfect "Superman" (literal Superman; Sups is practically the modern standard for the trope) heroes have kind of worn thin on me.

At least Mitoko has her moments of doubt and regret... Well, that and she is cute. ^.^

PS: anti-heros don't necessarily have to be 24/7 emo. A little mess-up-ness like Batman goes a long way.

well dont want to spoil for you so if you want to read the novels go here
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...jutsu_no_Index

[outerelf]

There's no need to worry. Touma is by no means perfect.

I will agree that the anime doesn't really do good justice to his character, because he's not the type of person who talks unless its against an enemy, so you never quite get him. I suggest reading the LN.

It, being the original source, gives Touma a lot more depth I believe.