2013-04-28, 11:22 | Link #61 | |
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2013-04-28, 11:27 | Link #62 |
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Okay since you know everything we can just stop using spoilers, this is the spoilers thread after all.
Now back to your question I think that it was indeed Berthold. Like I said so far we have seen that each human will invariably assume a precise and unique form when they become titans, and the colossal titan that attacks the trost district is identical to the colossal titan that attacked Shiganshina. I see no reason to think that they are two different entities. There is nothing that would make it impossible for Berthold to do that and quickly rejoin the rest taking advantage of the confusion. We know that Berthold was in the area since we see him later.
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2013-04-28, 11:39 | Link #67 |
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Not really. Apart from the fact it's at least 10 meters shorter he doesn't have those white ligaments around his mouth that Titan Berthold has. But the whole face is different in my opinion.
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2013-04-28, 11:42 | Link #68 |
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I can think couple of reason why they are different entity
1. At Episode 1 Berthold should be still at same age as Eren when colossal titan attack Shiganshina District. I can't image child transform to titan. 2. Why would he destroy Maria wall if he want to return to his vilage. well this maybe just trolling from author but 3. There is a scene where Berthold see titan out of his window.
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2013-04-28, 11:46 | Link #69 | ||
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The real question is why did they wait 5 years for their second assault. Yeah but how is that related? I can't see why this should make me think that there are two identical colossal titans.
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2013-04-28, 11:48 | Link #70 | ||
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Could have been a lie to support the fake backstory. Or it could have happened but he and Reiner lived in a village outside the walls. We don't know if they really are the last humans on earth. |
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2013-04-28, 11:53 | Link #71 |
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We all wish the answers were clear as day but unfortunately the latest chapters have thrown everything we thought we knew out the window. 1. I can't give a good answer to this since my knowledge of the sequence of events is lacking. 2. Reiner and Bertholt's motives are definitely in question now that they've revealed themselves to be Titan shifters. For all we know they could be lying about going back to their village, I mean they wouldn't work so hard to kidnap Eren if all they wanted to do was get back to their hometown. 3. Not really sure about this. With the way things are now, all we can really do is wait and hope the next chapter will finally give us some solid answers. There's just too little info at the moment to say anything that hasn't already been said. EDIT: Ninja'ed with better answers |
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Well about 1 and 3, I wouldn't be surprised if they're older than what they say they are, there's been speculation in the manga thread that Ymir is older than we might think because she could read a language others didn't understand in one of the latest chapters and because of the "Ymir-sama" mention by one of the titans in one of the extra chapters. and I figure 3 could just be the author trolling, the panel illustrates what Berthold is saying but he could be lying,he's nota reliable narrator.
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2013-04-28, 11:56 | Link #73 |
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Mind you, Bertholt and Reiner could very well really want to get rid of titans as well...notice that Titans attack Titan-shifters as well as if they were regular humans. Maybe the story that they want to go back to their village isn't so much a lie as it is altered to make it seem less suspicious.
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2013-04-28, 11:59 | Link #74 |
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I still think that that flashback wasn't a lie, but there are at least two explanation for that.
And yeah it is quite possible that Reiner and Berthold are older than their companions, at any rate they are significantly taller and bulkier than their peers. Even then I think that they are at best 2 or 5 years older but no more than that.
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2013-04-28, 12:03 | Link #75 |
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Because they were training of course. Just my 2 cookies but I have the feeling they might have really needed the "police cover" for their mission (just deducing that from Bert's speech, assuming he's not a big liar ... he wasn't sweating so we can assume he told the truth, hehe).
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2013-04-28, 12:03 | Link #76 |
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True, that before watching the anime I never doubt it, but after seeing how they deliver the scene when berthold and reiner helping Eren, I lose my faith, but maybe they are good liar . . ., or there is another explanation that we must wait for.
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2013-04-28, 12:08 | Link #77 |
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Armored and Colossal Titans they might be...but they alone can't do that much if the army focused their attack on them.....hell, Eren came quite close to landing a lethal blow on Bertholt right after graduating and if Rivaille wanted to seriously end them, they likely wouldn't last long.
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2013-04-28, 15:09 | Link #78 |
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I had the biggest lol reading episode 4 thread. Someone there said regarding episode 5 that "And, here you go Eren. Time to back up all your tough talk next week! " I mean the guy has his very very first battle ever and ends up eaten, definately not the glorious shounen hero we usually meet. *facepalms*
Its gonna be hilarious watching all the reactions next episode is gonna bring. Oh and i couldnt say this in the episode 4 thread so i'll say it here. They didnt include that forest scene where Marco and the others talked quite a bit. Jean even called Sasha potato girl! so whyyyy.... Its especially a shame as it was the last time we see Marco alive. |
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2013-04-28, 15:25 | Link #80 |
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I can't wait to see episode 5...Chapters 4, 6 and 7 are pretty much the chapters I most want to see animated so I can see the anime only viewer's reactions to everyone dying, Mikasa's flashback and the abnormal titan. I just hope they don't censor those episodes too much.
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