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The Setsuna/Kotonoha scene didn't turn out to be that big a deal, but the rest of the episode was great, especially the last five or so minutes where Makoto sleeps with Otome, dances with Sekai, and where Taisuke seems to take advantage of Kotonoha because it all seems designed to make Kotonoha go insane. I just don't see how this can end well, but the drama and surprises are what makes this show so appealing.
The Setsuna/Kotonoha scene didn't turn out to be that big a deal, but the rest of the episode was great, especially the last five or so minutes where Makoto sleeps with Otome, dances with Sekai, and where Taisuke seems to take advantage of Kotonoha because it all seems designed to make Kotonoha go insane. I just don't see how this can end well, but the drama and surprises are what makes this show so appealing.
I usually dont read spoilers but i couldnt hold back on this. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY.. I did not see one of these incidents coming i dont even know what to say i think i need some time to reflect i do not see a good ending for anyone in this series especially Koto. But for some people all i will say is I told you so and some of you thought Otome wouldnt be a factor HA! "Looks through the yellow pages for a good Therapist"
Spoiler for Praying this does not happen:
Please Please i hope that the Taisuke and Koto scene from the game actually happens. Fromt screen caps it looks bad as stated above as her ribbon falls this will totally screw her up for life and if it did happen i agree that in shock she went lifeless and Taisuke just had a go at her
The Setsuna/Kotonoha scene didn't turn out to be that big a deal, but the rest of the episode was great, especially the last five or so minutes where Makoto sleeps with Otome, dances with Sekai, and where Taisuke seems to take advantage of Kotonoha because it all seems designed to make Kotonoha go insane. I just don't see how this can end well, but the drama and surprises are what makes this show so appealing.
Spoiler:
So they put in the bonfire scene this early. That's really interesting. And now remains the fact that there are 4 people interested in Makoto, and he can't seem to choose any of them. Well, Setsuna he doesn't know about, as far as I know. Come on bad ending!
Not only sleeping with Otome but lying to innocent Kokoro although her friend figured it out pretty fast. The Setsuna thing feels cheap now since they resolved it so fast it was like an after thought. Hopefully poor Kotonoha realizes she's fighting a lost cause. It should be interesting how Otome vs Sekai will pan out since she forced herself on a willing scumbag.
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Also, do you know what the name of Episode 10 is?
Mind and Body or Body and Mind whichever way you want
Not only sleeping with Otome but lying to innocent Kokoro although her friend figured it out pretty fast. The Setsuna thing feels cheap now since they resolved it so fast it was like an after thought. Hopefully poor Kotonoha realizes she's fighting a lost cause. It should be interesting how Otome vs Sekai will pan out since she forced herself on a willing scumbag.
Mind and Body or Body and Mind whichever way you want
Not only sleeping with Otome but lying to innocent Kokoro although her friend figured it out pretty fast. The Setsuna thing feels cheap now since they resolved it so fast it was like an after thought. Hopefully poor Kotonoha realizes she's fighting a lost cause. It should be interesting how Otome vs Sekai will pan out since she forced herself on a willing scumbag.
Mind and Body or Body and Mind whichever way you want
Instead of focusing on getting a specific ending... this anime takes all kinda diffrent scenes from the game and makes it into one big mess... The outcome is at this point unpredicable, or was it always?
Currently Watching the episode.
once again, do not expect super accuracy, though it isn't dialogue heavy.
Spoiler for PART A:
Kotonoha confronts Setsuna about the kiss. She thinks that since setsuna loves makoto, it explains why she prevent kotonoha and makoto to go home together. Setsuna tells her it isn't the case, and says it is for Sekai's sake. kotonoha then asks why she kissed Makoto, while sekai loves him. This isn't something she should do, and wonder what would happen if Sekai knows it. (Kotonoha doesn't threaten/blackmail setsuna, she doesn't understand setsuna's statement). Setsuna cut her short, saying she will soon have to leave school, and so, she did it to create a memory for herself. Kotonoha is surprised by this, and says it doesn't have anything to do with her and makoto. Nanami arrives and wonders what Kotonoha is doing here, but Kotonoha then leaves.
Wearing her doll suit, Setsuna briefs what people will have to do, and makes her leave. Sekai wonders where she is going to, and Setsuna just says she leave the rest to them.
Setsuna "watching" a romantic theatre piece, though she is alone, as the audience. I didn't get the suject, but it appears some lines shocked her a lot.
Sekai and Makoto are cooking some desserts for their class stand. As makoto is complaining that Setsuna deserted the troops, Sekai says she has fun cooking some cakes with him. (lovey dovey mood between the 2). Meanwhile, Hikari is observing them afar, while taisuke joins her, commenting he is envious.
Kotonoha is in her class stand, and uses her cellphone. But she is interrupted by Otome and her bullies, not exactly happy of her "slacking off". A bully explain how "it" will happen, and the show depicts Nanami doing this, asking her senpai for "this". (obviously holding a condom in her hand...)
Taisuke is carrying many crates, and is even more envious, as he sees many couples around. He then sees kotonoha, typing some messages again with her cellphone. He greets her and asks who she send message to. Kotonoha is defiant, and says it doesn't concern him. Taisuke understands, and asks her if she will have to stay there for the whole time. Kotonoha doesn't have any choice. They got interrupted by a couple, obviously... in heat.
As he let them pass, Taisuke tries again to invite Kotonoha as a partner for the festival, especially the folklore dance. However, Kotonoha stands up, bows, and apologizes, saying she is Makoto's girlfriend. Taisuke argues however that Makoto is always with sekai, flriting. Kotonoha asks if Makoto says it personally, but taisuke cannot affirm this, as he just says what he saw. Kotonoha again says she is Makoto's girlfriend, and he shouldn't make false ideas. Taisuke tries to "abide" with her statement, and "admits" he was wrong. Kotonoha says because of this, she has to decline his offer. Taisuke asks her to not worry about it and apologizes. As soon as Taisuke leaves, she types another message, repeating makoto twice.
As his cellphone is rumbling, Makoto is gropping Sekai's butt, while she asks him to stop several times. She then argues what would happen if someone sees them. However, makoto says there is no one, and it is okay. Sekai calls him an idiot, then Makoto asks if they shouldn't go further. Sekai is annoyed, and says they have to work. Makoto tries to grop her butt again, and sekai, annoyed, hit his crotch with her knee! (+100 points sekai !). Sekai angrily says they have to make lots of cake, so he must not interfere, and go away.
Otome and the bullies are in their classroom, talking "fun" of Kotonoha. Then one of them has their cellphone rumbling. This one leave them quickly. The 2 others ask to otome to not betray them as well.
Outside, Makoto is eating some dumpling, and Otome asks him if he has anything to do. He doesn't, and Otome is relieved. She then asks him if he wants to hang around with her. Makoto is surprised by her offer, and wonders what's suddenly up with her. Otome repeats if it isn't okay, it is fine. Makoto then says it is alright. Both have fun in the festival, while Kotonoha is seen typing another message on her cellphone.
After some chichat, Otome asks him to be her partner for the folklore dance. But he then argues this is for couple, and says she should invite the guy she loves. Otome says that's why he asked to Makoto. she then enters into her deredere mode. Makoto is speechless and begins to stares at Otome... body, thinking she is quite hot...(no comment...)
Suddenly, sekai rushes at him, complaining he is slacking off again. She then grabs him, saying the break is over. as she is taking Makoto's back, sekai glares at Otome, while the former is a bit disappointed. Makoto tries to be released from Sekai's grip, understanding she is jealous. He claims she is just a friend etc. Sekai stops and stares angrily at him.
Hikari found the "couple". and tells him her "girlfriend" is there. Both Makoto and Sekai panic.
Spoiler for PART B:
The special guest is no one else than Kokoro, accompanied with a friend, Uzuki. She rushes and hugs him, saying her sister told her he would be here. Sekai and Makoto are relieved (hikari's prank?). Makoto introduces them, while Kokoro says she can't wait to see him dance with her sister. Makoto and sekai are taken off guard by this, and Uzuki notices it, asking if Makoto's girlfriend was onee-san (referring to sekai). Kokoro doesn't get what she said, and corrects her, saying Makoto's girlfriend is her sister. Uzuki comments it is special, but kokoro doesn't get it, and Uzuki teases her. Sekai offers them some cakes, but Uzuki says they don't have much time and they have to go, for kokoro's dismay. Uzuki says juke-sensei is waiting for them, so kokoro agrees. Makoto wonders about Juke-sensei, and Uzuki says s/he is great (kakoi desu). the chibiko duo leave, while Makoto and Sekai are a bit down, and she holds his hand.
Kotonoha go downstairs and meet the 2 remaining bullies. One of them wonders if her "lover" is here. Kotonoha says he is, then the bully suggests her to use their stand then. The other finds it funny, since the truth is kotonoha has been dumped. Kotonoha claim she isn't. But they are quite interested, and wonder why he didn't show up yet. Kotonoha tries to make an excuse, as he is late. The 2 begins to make fun of her, deducing he might be with another girl. Kotonoha is upset, and says it cannot be since she is his girlfriend. They keep picking on her, saying Makoto doesn't like her, but Kotonoha, still in denial, claim louder he does. The quarell begin to be heated, and Kotonoha claims Makoto will surely come.
Meanwhile, Makoto is still cooking with Sekai.She remembers about what Kokoro's said (that both her sister and makoto will dance), and asks makoto if both of them will dance during the folklore dance. Makoto wonders if it isn't something no important. Sekai argues it is, and since they are lovers, so the rest should know. Makoto reluctantly agress but. so Sekai asks again they will do it. Makoto accepts but not exactly thrilled. And sekai finishes it off, as "it is a promise".
Otome is outside, and is upset she couldn't make this promise for the folklore dance. as she is sighing, Taisuke does the same on the opposite side of the field. Otome recognizes him as the guy always hanging close around Makoto. Otome asks what he is doing alone. Taisuke tells her since everyone is in couple, he tries to be alone in a desert place. Otome is amused, but Taisuke says it should be the same for her, which takes her down. Otome then asks Taisuke if Makoto really likes Kotonoha. Taisuke wonders about, considering what Kotonoha claims. He then tells about him and Sekai, so he has hard time to understand that guy. He then feels pity for Kotonoha, that she is cute, but she still... ("got dumped" i guess)
Otome then realizes Taisuke loves kotonoha (well attracted should be more correct), and tells him to go ahead, acting like a man. However, Taisuke can't, saying Kotonoha still loves Makoto. Otome can't believe he is giving up like this, despite being a man. Taisuke is still embrassed, but Otome is saying he can do it, if he wants to. Taisuke is cheered up, the Otome complains because of him, she must do something. Shen thens leaves, giving a last "cheers" for Taisuke.
Sekai is completely lovey dovey, and hugs Makoto's arm. But she got called by Hikari for some stuff. Makoto FINALLY notices his rumbling cellphone. He sees 20 new messages and... to his horror, ALL OF THEM are from Kotonoha. He changes himself, and quickly make his way out, but is interrupted by Otome. She walks straight to him, and extend her arm, with "something" in her hand. saying something (detashite? huh?). Makoto is oblivious of what she is doing, and she grabs his arm, bearing a very deredere face, asking him to come with her. She leads him in the lounge. Makoto wonders what is this place, and Otome explains him. As he realizes it, Otome then says she doesn't know if he sees her as a girl, but she confess she always loved him back from this time. She asks if they aren't more than friends (absolutely not sure of this). makoto isn't able to deny it. then she knock him on the bed.
Meanwhile, the 2 bullies still pick on Kotonoha. taunting her that at this rate, they will be late for the dance. As they are talking, Otome is on Makoto, but the later puts his hand on her cheek. Kotonoha still believe Makoto is busy because of something important, and will surely come. Both begin to feel sorry for her, and one begins to say Makoto is... but the other stops her, and both see Kotonoha's state. They are embarassed and leave. Meanwhile, Makoto and Otome kiss.
as makoto mentions they did it, Otome is dressing back, and talks about the promise for the folklore dance, Makoto nods, but not exactly paying attention to her. Otome understands and says it is okay. makoto apologizes about this. Makoto leaves, but Otome is disappointed.
the bonfire is lit, Makoto and Sekai are there, holding their hands. Meanwhile, Kotonoha goes to makoto's classroom, but is surprised there isn't anyone except taisuke. She asks him where makoto is, but Taisuke says he is not here anymore. She doesn't believe it, as they are lovers. Taisuke says Makoto goes to the foklore dance with Sekai. She wonders why, since makoto's lover is her. Taisuke says Makoto no longer thinks like this. Kotonoha says it is a lie, but replies it isn't. Kotonoha wonders why he uses such lie. But Taisuke tells her he doesn't lie, and claim Makoto betrayed her, which shocks her. He then confess her, and hugs her. Meanwhile, Makoto and Sekai dance around the bonfire.
Taisuke keeps saying he loves her, while Kotonoha still remain wihtout any reaction.
As sekai and makoto are dancing, Setsuna comment about them.
Both finish their dance, and Sekai says "i'm your girlfriend, right?" but Makoto doesn't answer.
The episode ends, with Kotonoha's ribbon, falling like a water drop, and her face in the dark muttering Makoto's name.
The result of this episode was half expected.
I never though they would forcefully add Otome, the complete dark horse, in the race like this.
I must say, while the drama potential is big now, it looks really cranky...
I also have to complain how they loosely concluded Setsuna's case. I'm aware it wasn't something big to begin with, but dragging her for only this, this is plain stupid.
The end will be a battle royal, and frankly, i can't tell if they won't pull something idiotic, as the drama begins to be saturated.
So, hopefully, this won't be "Makoto and Sekai in the bonfire" but rather "Taisuke dies in a fire". I saw this coming...so sad.
Makoto is a worthless piece of trash like always, but now we have someone we can hate more.
Spoiler for In total agreement:
I totally agree with you Matoko is worth about as much as the gum i just pulled from under my shoe. But the one thing he has never forced him self on anyone the girls he has slept with were more than willing. Taisuke can burn in the 9th layer of hell if he indeed rape Koto. Being a total dumbass is one thing being a rapiest is in a whole other league. If this is true and we wont know till episode 10 Itou will be least of my worries my hate will go straight towards Taisuke. I would happily light that match that burns his ass.
I totally agree with you Matoko is worth about as much as the gum i just pulled from under my shoe. But the one thing he has never forced him self on anyone the girls he has slept with were more than willing. Taisuke can burn in the 9th layer of hell if he indeed rape Sekai. Being a total dumbass is one thing being a rapiest is in a whole other league. If this is true and we wont know till episode 10 Itou will be least of my worries my hate will go straight towards Taisuke. I would happily light that match that burns his ass.
Spoiler for Yep.:
It's Kotonoha by the way, but you probably know that already and it was just a typing mistake. But yes, Makoto's a dumbass, he cheated again this episode, and he gets hate and deserves quite a bit of it.
But there's nothing he's done that even comes close to being a rapist. I think it's pretty much confirmed by the way...there's really nothing else that scene could mean.
It's Kotonoha by the way, but you probably know that already and it was just a typing mistake. But yes, Makoto's a dumbass, he cheated again this episode, and he gets hate and deserves quite a bit of it.
But there's nothing he's done that even comes close to being a rapist. I think it's pretty much confirmed by the way...there's really nothing else that scene could mean.
Spoiler for For AvatarST:
Yeah you are right i was just hoping it wouldnt be true. THe symbolism of Koto's ribbon falling and in a pool of red i mean it is obvious her innocence is not gone because of that dick. Now what i find interesting is that the Otome Itou scene happened in the lounge where the camera is but the rape scene happend somewhere else. So the video footage will be of Otome and Itou and Sekai WILL see it. Otome thinks that this will put her one up on Koto but it just makes her whore. Itou still wont go for her it going to be Sekai from what iv seen.
The sad thing is Koto wont say she was raped and Otome and her friends would never fess up to putting her in that situation, they will probably make fun of her about it to and spread it around school. Taisuke being who he is will say she didnt say no he's retarded enough to believe that Koto wanted it. Im pulling at straws here but i hope that Itou or someone else finds out that Taisuke did indeed rape her but honestly i cant expect much. Im actually quite pissed off at this whole thing and i havent even seen the subbed version yet. I know its an anime but its still an emotional one. Like I said im putting Itou on hold right now my flamming will be purly for Taisuke for a while. -
i think sekai gets a plus for kneeing makoto in the crotch. generally i would not condone it, but he really deserves it for what he does after. sleeping with otome pretty much means he will go for any girl that offers herself and only rejected koto cuz she didn't.
taisuke credit just dropped tremendously, i wonder what will happen to him when anyone else finds out. i dont think it counts as rape as koto is pretty much like a lifeless doll rather than resisting. of course she didnt give consent but its more like she could care less anymore.
i really wonder how they squeezed in a sekai bonfire scene right after the otome sex. it really makes no sense. well mainly that makoto is such a player to dance with her after sleeping with someone else. makes him really really heartless and immoral.
If she doesn't give consent, it's rape...it doesn't matter if she stops resisting after he already started, really. I can't see it being anything else but the game scene - the story might be all over the place as you say, but it's still based in the game, game scenes are in, and that looked just like it.
I say he definitely deserves to pay in some way or another.
If she doesn't give consent, it's rape...it doesn't matter if she stops resisting after he already started, really. I can't see it being anything else but the game scene - the story might be all over the place as you say, but it's still based in the game, game scenes are in, and that looked just like it.
I say he definitely deserves to pay in some way or another.
Spoiler for yeah well...:
well yeah she doesnt give consent. but she also does not resist at all anywhere. i think that she is about as conscious as a blowup doll, so sexing a lifeless doll probly wouldnt be rape. i dunno, rape definitions are kinda broad so maybe it is.
well yeah she doesnt give consent. but she also does not resist at all anywhere. i think that she is about as conscious as a blowup doll, so sexing a lifeless doll probly wouldnt be rape. i dunno, rape definitions are kinda broad so maybe it is.
Spoiler for Yeah.:
I know, I know where you're coming from. But...that'd work if Kotonoha was a lifeless doll...however, she's a human being. I've only seen screenshots so I dunno how it went in the ep, but if the entirety of the scene isn't shown (as in, if there's cuts), she could've resisted a bit at the start, and then she stopped resisting.
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