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Endless Soul · 2012-05-20, 19:05

Also, regarding that mysterious bow gun, I'm wondering if that was at full or minimal power. I mean, was that the extent of damage it could do? This seems unlikely, because that would mean that it's relatively useless. Just how much was it held back?

Endless "Curious" Soul

Chiaki_chan · 2012-05-20, 19:08

Only those who have read the novel know who the mysterious man ...

For the weapon that launches Bentenmaru supersonic waves probably is a super powerful weapon that can destroy a continant but there they probably "dropped" the power level right?

Ithekro · 2012-05-20, 19:18

Kane said it was a prank of some sort. Misa was having trouble holding the ship steady at station keeping in low orbit. Part of the crew was questioning if this was a good idea, the rest said, Kane asked for it.

Chiaki_chan · 2012-05-20, 19:30

Well as I said gun is very powerful and must be so even if they have halved the power, the attack would still be as powerful but making up for not destroying the beach and girls hurt but despite this they were afraid still understandably

MeisterBabylon · 2012-05-20, 20:10

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Could the guy in the cloak be Kane's brother that someone put up art for earier? wasn't he with the Galactic Empire? Thus could the Gamactic Empire be getting directly involved in keeping Marika safe?

The Law of Conservation of Characters states that this should be so.

Also, I'd wager that the Galactic Empire has an overt rule that lets its members run themselves the way they do, and then has operatives that do not exist eliminating threats to the Empire from the shadows. This man, "Abel", could be one of them, and he's definitely not alone.

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Also it will be interesting to see just what group is targeting Marika from the outside, and if it has anything to do with the high school, the tournament, or the administration group that called on Show for some illegal activities to counter the High School Yacht Club's five year old reputation.

Speculation time!

I'd say its a vengeful parent who wants to wreck Hakuoh for one of their graduated members crashing into another dinghy and spraining her daughter's wrist back in the old tournament. Just so happens that said parent is a committee member of the judging board.

When in actual fact, both girls involved in the accident have become best friends in Space University, and that the Hakuoh senior deliberately crashed into the other girl to save her life.

So after some talking, the conflict ends and they all have parfaits. Everything ends well if you're a pirate!

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And I am very curious what that weapon in the bow is. That was not the standard main guns firing. but that was not powerful enough to be a typical Wave Motion Gun weapon (those things can destroy continents the size of Europe.)

I was thinking about how it resembles a Deflector Dish attack. Starfleet vessel deflector dishes have sensors ringed around them to bypass subspace distortion of warp travel. These when repurposed by reversing the polarity can allow the dishes to "fire" special particles.

Guesstimating from our continuum, the nose cone of rocket craft usually have some sensors inside. Also, these sensors being hull-mounted are much more reinforced than the underslung MSA, and won't snap off on recoil. So by subjecting the buzzard collector sensor suite to the same treatment, you get an improvised, low impact weapon that shoots science.

Also, it takes a Science bridge officer to be able to fire off a Charged Particle Burst or a Photonic Shockwave, and Misa is from Science. After all, to shoot a special particle weapon through atmosphere without main computer help would require micro-adjustments from someone who knows how to do it, ie, a Blue Shirt.

Or it could just be a Phaser Spinal Lancer dialed down to Low power settings. (Yep, Star Trek has both a Yamato, and a Wave Motion Gun, just that in 2 separate halves. It is not until 2412 when both Yamato and Spinal Lance were united as one)

Spoiler for NCC-92199 USS Yamato:

*ahem*

Pardon the technobabble.

encia · 2012-05-21, 02:47

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Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon

I was thinking about how it resembles a Deflector Dish attack. Starfleet vessel deflector dishes have sensors ringed around them to bypass subspace distortion of warp travel. These when repurposed by reversing the polarity can allow the dishes to "fire" special particles.

Some are not special particles e.g. photons for laser beam function i.e. simulate photon torpedo burst in ST:Generations. Starfleet’s main deflector is the largest particle emitter device on Starfleet's ships. Against Species 8472 and their extreme firepower, Janeway usually sets Voyager’s deflector fire on standby.

Starfleet’s main deflector is mostly use for removing real space particles/small objects hazards i.e. it’s tied with artificial gravity(gravitons) type force. The artificial gravity emitters are strong enough to form an artificial quantum singularity(small blackholes) for copying Species 8472's jump drive function.

In ST:Online and ST:Voyager Hope And Fear episode, Starfleet’s main deflector is being use for Quantum Slipstream drive i.e. copying Species 116's FTL drive function.

On Bentenmaru's FTL, the nose section opens which then glows blue (perhaps subspace emitter function) and "punches" into subspace FTL.
In Trek's Quantum Slipstream, Starfleet's deflector is use in a similar function i.e. focused Quantum warp particles are used to punch into Quantum Slipstream (yet another subspace).

In theory, Bentenmaru's nose section subspace impellor could be used as a powerful weapon.

Note that the Bodacious Space Pirates universe has it's own "phaser" weapons aka "Phaser Arrow" and it's illegal to own them without a proper license.

LoweGear · 2012-05-21, 02:51

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I'm pretty sure the bow did not have a cannon attached, and so it would've been a repurposed... something.

Unless that was a hidden Wave Motion Phaser.

Given that this is the first time we've seen the bow actually do something other than just being the front of a ship, there's no reason to believe that it was doing something else entirely given the lack of evidence on the contrary. I also got the impression of a dedicated weapon from the fact that it was fired using the same style of button as the weapons (see episode 15 when Haramaki accidentally discharges the main cannons), and operated from the weapons console.

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-05-21, 03:22

Is it just me or there some spark between Marika and Kane? Even if she wanted to strangle his neck.

The various military and agencies of the Sea of Morningstar see pirates as potential force multipliers. As such getting one in their pocket is important. Maria is young therefore malleable but has potential as demonstrated by her first two crisis.

For the moment they are hands off! (That's sounds like a bunch of old men waiting for Marika to be legal.) But once Marika graduates high school all of them will be vying for her and Bentemaru's services. The military aspect of privateer pirates as it were.

Chiaki_chan · 2012-05-21, 03:42

I see more Kane stay with Misa

MeisterBabylon · 2012-05-21, 04:08

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Given that this is the first time we've seen the bow actually do something other than just being the front of a ship, there's no reason to believe that it was doing something else entirely given the lack of evidence on the contrary. I also got the impression of a dedicated weapon from the fact that it was fired using the same style of button as the weapons (see episode 15 when Haramaki accidentally discharges the main cannons), and operated from the weapons console.

After you mentioned it, I rewatched that part again, and yes I missed the part when they fired. The control was on the Tactical station and not at the conn.

@encia: I think I missed that one, got a time scale of Ben10maru deploying the nose cone impeller before jumping to warp?

encia · 2012-05-21, 06:09

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Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon

After you mentioned it, I rewatched that part again, and yes I missed the part when they fired. The control was on the Tactical station and not at the conn.

@encia: I think I missed that one, got a time scale of Ben10maru deploying the nose cone impeller before jumping to warp?

Spoiler for Ep07, Ep18, Ep20:

thundrakkon · 2012-05-21, 06:19

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Originally Posted by Chiaki_chan

I see more Kane stay with Misa

Although they do have a lot of chemistry together, I don't see Misa as willing to settle down with anyone. She is very independent. Also, this series is more apt to have the girls get together with each other than any other man.

As for Marika with Kane, I really don't see that at all. Kane is too much of a brother/teacher type to Marika. Besides, I think Chiaki has more interest in Marika than she lets people see. As for Marika, I think she treats all girls in her harem the same.

justpassingby · 2012-05-21, 06:56

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Is it just me or there some spark between Marika and Kane? Even if she wanted to strangle his neck.

Count me in in that one

Though in the Satelight Anime Night event, when Matsuoka (Sandaime) was asked who he would like to marry among the girls, he accidentally answered Madoka (LagRin) before changing his answer to Marika.

In other news, here is the complete song list for Mikako-shi upcoming mini-album (Mouretsu Pirates concept album), with "From M" is a temporary title?

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・砂漠のタイムマシン
・ジャスミンの風に
・black holy
・透明な夜空～瞬く星に包まれて～Album Ver
・ユメノアリカ
・Infinity sky
・From Ｍ…（仮）
・未来航路

Source: hmv 未可子氏奇麗

Utsuro no Hako · 2012-05-21, 10:13

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Although they do have a lot of chemistry together, I don't see Misa as willing to settle down with anyone. She is very independent.

Who said anything about settling down? She just keeps him tied to the bed.

Cosmic Eagle · 2012-05-21, 11:05

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

And I am very curious what that weapon in the bow is. That was not the standard main guns firing. but that was not powerful enough to be a typical Wave Motion Gun weapon (those things can destroy continents the size of Europe.)

Firepower is more like a CIWS for downing small enemy fighters...

Ithekro · 2012-05-21, 12:28

Hmmm. that seems like a very limited arc of fire for an anti-fighter/anti-missile weapon.

Though I have seen something like that before...the Comet Empire battleships have a "Magna-shock cannon" set that seems to fuction by twisting the enemy ship or fighters in something like an energy tornado.

However it might just be a redesign of their FTL drive, much like Marika figured out that the Odette II had a hidden weapon in its solar sail propulsion system. One of the Klingon axioms from their elite command academy is "On a warship, everything is a weapon".

In some respects the traditional Wave Motion Gun is just using the ship's engine as a weapon. Just directing all power into a concentrated beam of great power rather that using the same power through the drive sytems to make FTL travel possible.

It is fortunate that steam engines can't quite be used in this fashion, or else she'd have hundred thousand plus horsepower weapons on naval vessels in the 1920s.

00Coyote · 2012-05-21, 15:04

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It is fortunate that steam engines can't quite be used in this fashion, or else she'd have hundred thousand plus horsepower weapons on naval vessels in the 1920s.

Well, Ramming never came back in style after the age of sail, but it does convert all that SHP into a weapon.

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However it might just be a redesign of their FTL drive, much like Marika figured out that the Odette II had a hidden weapon in its solar sail propulsion system. One of the Klingon axioms from their elite command academy is "On a warship, everything is a weapon".

In some respects the traditional Wave Motion Gun is just using the ship's engine as a weapon. Just directing all power into a concentrated beam of great power rather that using the same power through the drive sytems to make FTL travel possible.

That's pretty much my take on this newly displayed weapon. The 6 'cat eye' lasers that we've seen used extensively are the primary weapon, because they are versatile and can be aimed easily. This mini-wave motion gun can only be aimed by pointing the whole ship at the target, so it's really only useful for big or immobile targets.

I'm assuming the mini-wave motion gun was part of the original design, and the newer 6-gun system was bolted on during one of the many refits.

Chiaki_chan · 2012-05-21, 16:52

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Although they do have a lot of chemistry together, I don't see Misa as willing to settle down with anyone. She is very independent. Also, this series is more apt to have the girls get together with each other than any other man.

As for Marika with Kane, I really don't see that at all. Kane is too much of a brother/teacher type to Marika. Besides, I think Chiaki has more interest in Marika than she lets people see. As for Marika, I think she treats all girls in her harem the same.

Totally agree with Misa independent air then yes Marika considers Kane as a "Professor" / friend "
And yes I hope to Chiaki ... xD

MeisterBabylon · 2012-05-21, 18:49

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Spoiler for Ep07, Ep18, Ep20:

...@_@

Hey Lowe, that was a deflector dish!

And looks like tech has advanced far enough for QSS jumps to be the norm!

Chiaki_chan · 2012-05-21, 19:37

I want to be sure because Chiaki has to leave high school Hakuho episode 6 then during the race she will compete for his high school? And therefore it will be the rival of the other girls and Marika Yacht Club ... ?

I have another question because in the anime there is possibility of traveling into space I want to know Gruier and sister they come from an other planet? Chiaki and of course comes from the earth but of another country or just another high school in Japan?

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Chiaki_chan Kubo GO TO HELL Join Date: May 2012 Location: with Maki-sama Age: 31	Only those who have read the novel know who the mysterious man ... For the weapon that launches Bentenmaru supersonic waves probably is a super powerful weapon that can destroy a continant but there they probably "dropped" the power level right? __________________

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Chiaki_chan Kubo GO TO HELL Join Date: May 2012 Location: with Maki-sama Age: 31	Well as I said gun is very powerful and must be so even if they have halved the power, the attack would still be as powerful but making up for not destroying the beach and girls hurt but despite this they were afraid still understandably __________________

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Hmmm. that seems like a very limited arc of fire for an anti-fighter/anti-missile weapon. Though I have seen something like that before...the Comet Empire battleships have a "Magna-shock cannon" set that seems to fuction by twisting the enemy ship or fighters in something like an energy tornado. However it might just be a redesign of their FTL drive, much like Marika figured out that the Odette II had a hidden weapon in its solar sail propulsion system. One of the Klingon axioms from their elite command academy is "On a warship, everything is a weapon". In some respects the traditional Wave Motion Gun is just using the ship's engine as a weapon. Just directing all power into a concentrated beam of great power rather that using the same power through the drive sytems to make FTL travel possible. It is fortunate that steam engines can't quite be used in this fashion, or else she'd have hundred thousand plus horsepower weapons on naval vessels in the 1920s. __________________

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Chiaki_chan Kubo GO TO HELL Join Date: May 2012 Location: with Maki-sama Age: 31	I want to be sure because Chiaki has to leave high school Hakuho episode 6 then during the race she will compete for his high school? And therefore it will be the rival of the other girls and Marika Yacht Club ... ? I have another question because in the anime there is possibility of traveling into space I want to know Gruier and sister they come from an other planet? Chiaki and of course comes from the earth but of another country or just another high school in Japan? __________________