Medaka Box [Manga]

[Naginoura]

Spoiler for the second novel:

Eburi Richigi was a counsellor in Hakoniwa. He never looks people face to face and always hides behind his tablet. Essentially, he becomes Class -13's homeroom teacher.

Mukueda Shikii's part of the book is more about poking at his flawed ideals. It involves Choujabaru, (a miraculously standing-up) Tachiarai and Shiranui.

With this book Medaka Box - Box 0 is closed. Everything will continue in Box 1. However, that Box 1 is most likely referring to the manga itself.

[kantou]

Originally Posted by Naginoura

Spoiler for the second novel:

Eburi Richigi was a counsellor in Hakoniwa. He never looks people face to face and always hides behind his tablet. Essentially, he becomes Class -13's homeroom teacher.

Mukueda Shikii's part of the book is more about poking at his flawed ideals. It involves Choujabaru, (a miraculously standing-up) Tachiarai and Shiranui.

With this book Medaka Box - Box 0 is closed. Everything will continue in Box 1. However, that Box 1 is most likely referring to the manga itself.

thanks for the spoil You already read the book?

[Homura7]

The whole raw has been out for a while, what the hell are you doing?

[Tyabann]

Spoiler for 149:

One reason I always liked these kind of arcs is because it gives the side characters a chance to shine a little. We haven't seen Emukae actually do anything since, what, the Minus Arc?

Also, this is the end of what will be Vol. 17, if anyone cares.

[Homura7]

Spoiler for 149:

This is one duel that is gonna be hella interesting, for many reasons:

-Emukae is a Minus, therefore her chances of coming out victor of this are slim.

-Her Rafflesia is useless in what the ability to make plants grow respects in such cold environment. And she's a Minus.

-Will her feelings for Zen get on the way? Also, she's a Minus.

-Did I mention she is a Minus?

And hurray for the return of the psycho yandere!!

[Tyabann]

Spoiler for 149:

I heard that she's only involved in this because she wants to defeat Medaka and steal Zenkichi from her.

Also, I'm not entirely sure she counts as a Minus anymore. Raffrafflesia was erased by All-Fiction, if you remember, but she managed to retain it somehow, I suspect by instantly developing a Plus just like it.

That said, the rules on how this is supposed to work are vague... Naze, despite having a Minus, is still considered a Plus, but Shori, who destroyed her own eye to remove her Abnormality is considered a Normal.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Spoiler for 149:

I heard that she's only involved in this because she wants to defeat Medaka and steal Zenkichi from her.

Also, I'm not entirely sure she counts as a Minus anymore. Raffrafflesia was erased by All-Fiction, if you remember, but she managed to retain it somehow, I suspect by instantly developing a Plus just like it.

That said, the rules on how this is supposed to work are vague... Naze, despite having a Minus, is still considered a Plus, but Shori, who destroyed her own eye to remove her Abnormality is considered a Normal.

Spoiler for spoiler:

Really it simply depends if devil style is still in effect, if it still is then being a minus doesn't mean much if it isn't then it'll probably have a factor in the fight

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[Iby]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Spoiler for 149:

Shori, who destroyed her own eye to remove her Abnormality is considered a Normal.

Can you say which what chapter has this? I forgot about this and wiki don't have info about it.

[Homura7]

Spoiler for spoiler:

What is written in the piece of paper Zen finds? Something about Medaka, I guess.

[Randrak42]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Spoiler for 149:

I heard that she's only involved in this because she wants to defeat Medaka and steal Zenkichi from her.

Spoiler for 149:

OMG please make this true.

Anyway EMUKAE IS GETTING SCREENTIME...all is well with the world!
Just so happy to see our little yandere back in action...I just love her so much!

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Iby

Can you say which what chapter has this? I forgot about this and wiki don't have info about it.

It's around that mini-arc with Munakata challenging Kumagawa. I forget the exact chapter.

[Wolfenstein]

She being a Minus really dosen't mean anything with Devil Style being in effect. Wasn't Naze also a Minus(as well as an Abnormal)?

[Randrak42]

Naze is an artificial Minus, she made herself into one rather than being one originally/naturally turning into one.

Really at this point I wonder if being a Minus or not really matters when it comes to winning or losing.

[Wolfenstein]

Truthfully it depends on Devil Style. Kumagawa said he was never blessed by fate or coincidence, while it's obvious Abnormals were. Devil Style reduces all those advantages/disadvantages to zero, however.

[Last Carpet]

Spoiler for ch149:

I'm still on for ZenXMukae. I can't help but notice that Nisio tends to bring back and expand on characters that score high in his poularity polls. Kei and Naze from the first, Mukae from the second. So he might bring back whichever suitor becomes the most popular. Also looking forward to a little background on our favorite little Yandere

Also wondering which family the suitor that's going to fight Mukae comes from?

[Sol Falling]

It seems to me that there's some obscurity regarding whether any Minus (aside from Kumagawa) is actually "fated" to lose at all. From what we were given to understand the most frightening/repulsive aspect of Minuses was not their actual abilities, but rather their twisted personalities which allowed them to hurt others by second nature. For most general Minuses, their condition was not that they were "fated" to lose but that they never tried to win in the first place.

If you remember, not every Minus was presented as being calculated to inherently lose. Prior to her battle, one of Shibuki's established features was explicitly that from among the Minuses, it was expected that Shibuki winning was actually possible. Shibuki herself, although being named as one of the "strongest" Minuses, seemed to have no special features except that she had full control over her Minus ability. However, the way the story progressed it seemed like the reason victory was supposed to be possible for Shibuki was not because she had control over her Minus, but rather the nature of her Minus itself (opening "old wounds", which was described as an unstoppable weapon against any living adversary).

Furthermore consider that Kumagawa himself is actually the only Minus to have been shown as cursed by coincidental factors (i.e. bad luck in games, poor election results) which prevented him from winning, rather than simply being used to losing as an aspect of Minus personality. Given these factors, it seems to me that the "will never win" effect actually applies not to Minuses in general (when Minuses are just environmental/externally caused abilities, as demonstrated by Naze), but only Kumagawa specifically (especially considering, that most of the "when will he win"/"why do I always lose" characterization with respect to Minuses has only been focused on Kumagawa in particular).

Note in particular that the "Minus" and "Plus" terminologies have largely been used to describe certain types of personalities, whereas original Flask Plan characters like Miyakonojou, Takachiho, etc. were classed only as Abnormals, based on their abilities. Plus != Abnormal, so along the same lines, we may have to separate Minus personalities (i.e. which supposedly always lose/are used to losing), and Minus abilities. I think it is entirely possible that, to the extent that they are not limited by Minus personalities, any other Minus aside from Kumagawa has no "in-universe" factors which restricts them from winning.

[Cruor]

Y'know I just realized that this is actually pretty close to the 7th Zaregoto book. Especially if Nienami really does end up helping the student council group. Actually, if it does go the Zaregoto route I worry for what happens after they beat the suitors >_>

[Guernsey]

Who knows? If Nishio spare the suitors they may become a part Zenikichi's harem or Kumagawa's harem which ever comes first.

[SockMonster]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

Spoiler for 149:

This is one duel that is gonna be hella interesting, for many reasons:

-Emukae is a Minus, therefore her chances of coming out victor of this are slim.

-Her Rafflesia is useless in what the ability to make plants grow respects in such cold environment. And she's a Minus.

-Will her feelings for Zen get on the way? Also, she's a Minus.

-Did I mention she is a Minus?

And hurray for the return of the psycho yandere!!

Spoiler for chap 149:

Since everyone jumped on the minus portion, I want to be the nit-picky one and mention that Rafflesia is not the ability to grow plants. If you remember, Rafflesia is the ability to rot. Emukae was only able to increase the growth rate of the plants during the Minus arc by "rotting the soil", so there are still plenty of things for Emukae can do through rotting in this suitor match. I mean, when she fought Zen's mom, she was able to rot the freakin' AIR!

Also, concerning Emukae being a minus, I think Emukae is still a minus. To my memory, Kumagawa did take away her minus briefly. However, he actually returned it himself for some reason or another (I believe she asked for it back because she thought of it as an important thing that made her herself) and she became capable of controlling it when he did. She did not form it again herself.

I don't remember where actually it was explained. I think it was either during Zen's training with Ajimu or right after her match during the minus arc.

[Naginoura]

Originally Posted by SockMonster

Spoiler for chap 149:

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Also, concerning Emukae being a minus, I think Emukae is still a minus. To my memory, Kumagawa did take away her minus briefly. However, he actually returned it himself for some reason or another (I believe she asked for it back because she thought of it as an important thing that made her herself) and she became capable of controlling it when he did. She did not form it again herself.

I don't remember where actually it was explained. I think it was either during Zen's training with Ajimu or right after her match during the minus arc.

Originally Posted by Last Carpet

Spoiler for ch149:

I'm still on for ZenXMukae. I can't help but notice that Nisio tends to bring back and expand on characters that score high in his poularity polls. Kei and Naze from the first, Mukae from the second. So he might bring back whichever suitor becomes the most popular. Also looking forward to a little background on our favorite little Yandere

Also wondering which family the suitor that's going to fight Mukae comes from?

Spoiler for 149:

Kumagawa can't return things he took. It's just that even he couldn't erase Raffrafflesia completely--or maybe didn't want to erase it completely. After he supposedly made Raffrafflesia nothing, it became a skill Emukae can turn on/off at will.

The suitor they are fighting is Kugurugi Mogura, and the paper Zenkichi found was left by Medaka, written in her own blood.

Originally Posted by kantou

thanks for the spoil You already read the book?

No, my copy hasn't arrived yet. I just read a synopsis sort of thing and saw "Kurokami Medaka's 'My Honorable Teachers'" sections of the book.