2013-03-15, 02:39 | Link #21 |
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That isn't a challenge, that was a slaughter; she beat him down in a few seconds flat, right? (IIRC).
I'm somewhat disappointed that we don't see high-level fights happening much anywhere, specifically Level 7/8/9 vs Level 7/8/9. We do have Crikin vs Nidhogg, Lotus vs Nidhogg, Raker vs Grey gunner guy in the OVA, and Lotus slaughtering a bunch of Linkers in the anime, but Lotus vs Radio puts them all to shame. At least thrice over. |
2013-03-18, 20:06 | Link #22 | |||
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Because she was clearly toying with Silver Crow, rather than fighting seriously. Probably, she could have just drawn her firearm and dominated him right at the start, but she wanted to put the fear of the Red King into him, and the Immobile Fortress is more intimidating. Quote:
[qute]We do have Crikin vs Nidhogg, Lotus vs Nidhogg, Raker vs Grey gunner guy in the OVA, and Lotus slaughtering a bunch of Linkers in the anime[/quote] Lotus' massacre was great. The whole Nidhogg fight was really interesting, but... Most of Lotus' fight with Nidhogg was dodge-tanking, suffering major damage from a near-hit of Scorching Inferno, and then cutting off just a tooth. Crikin and Nidhogg had just two exchanges of firepower. The Megamachine tanked a Scorching Inferno with scratch damage at best, delivered a powerful missile barrage, and then died to a single Scorching Inferno backed up by Charcoal Smoke. It might have been a more even, give-and-take sort of fight, had Nidhogg been a normal Enemy. Because Nidhogg might have been STRONGER than Legendary Enemies usually are, as a tamed beast. It depends on whether or not it originally had the Scorching Inferno attack before being tamed, or if being tamed merely imposed an SP cost on the attack. Still, if Black Lotus truly does have the title "Legend Slayer", then like Blue Knight she ought to be capable of solo'ing a Legendary Enemy. Capable enough that she thought she even had a chance of defeating one of the Four Gods. Quote:
I felt that Lotus versus Radio was a much better example of "ancient master duel" than most examples in Naruto. Itachi versus Kakashi, Itachi and Sasame versus Jiraiya, Jiraiya and Tsunade versus Orochimaru... It's probaby because old and powerful ninja in Naruto are liable to have MANY more tricks than a Duel Avatar will ever have, so it feels like the author has always taken shortcuts to avoid thinking up dozens of techniques that the opponents will never actually use in that one fight. But with Lotus and Radio, the author only needs to think of eight upgrades and only a few starter abilities per combatant. (IS skills don't count, since neither of them resorted to using those.) So, even though the author clearly held back on revealed all of their tricks, there isn't a strong sense that it's because he just didn't want to come up with those tricks. (Hell, I'm pretty sure he'd already long decided on all of Lotus' powers.) As a thought, neither Radio or Lotus seemed to land a single blow on each other, yet they filled up their Special Meters. Which means that they maxed out on SP simply from the damage their battle was incidentally inflicting to the environment. |
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2013-03-19, 00:36 | Link #23 | |
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In short, dzu is an archaic, obsolete transliteration of ジ that's being depreciated. Modern international standard and official transliteration is zu or du, with zu being the preferred transliteration. And judging by this line from the main romanization article: "Kunrei-shiki romanization is a slightly modified version of Nihon-shiki which eliminates differences between the kana syllabary and modern pronunciation." the native speakers aren't saying dzu so quickly it blends into zu, pronunciation's actually shifted to zu. |
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2013-03-19, 01:30 | Link #24 | |
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2013-03-19, 06:19 | Link #25 | |||
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Why Lotus used Mode Green, we can only guess, but chinese wiki has confirmed it as IS skill for increased defense, okay. Why mention Starburst Stream if you're going to say it doesn't count? And not count towards what? Shiyumi, a quarter of the time I'm having to guess at what you're saying because of your incompetence with words. And for a technicality nut like Gold () that goes double or even triple. Gold, you can open this spoiler if you already read the Chinese Wiki translation for KYH. Spoiler for "Extracts from Chinese Wiki KYH:
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2013-03-19, 10:16 | Link #26 | |
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Also, the Accel World wikia uses Kōzuki. Any official translation will likely use Kouzuki or Kōzuki. If you go with Koudzuki, you will be the odd one out in contradiction with the rest of the internet. I understand that the final call may not be yours, but the fact remains that writing it as dzu is basically wrong. As best I can tell, it's been wrong since the third edition of Hepburn back in 1886. The only time it's right is some uncommon exceptions where dzu was long established, and never changed, and Yuniko's name would not be likely to be among them. |
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2013-03-19, 16:24 | Link #27 | ||
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Frankly, it's amazing that Radio was willing to engage Black Lotus at all. Even when Black Lotus wakes up, even when the jamming on the Red King is lifted, Radio stands his ground and doesn't retreat. It's only when Chrome Disaster appears (AND Radio suffers a huge wound) that the Yellow King finally turns tail and runs. But this is the same guy that flinched in fear just from Scarlet Rain threatening to fight back and retire him for good; he lets out an involuntary Eep despite the fact that she's still firmly in his trap AND the Black King is practically comatose. Is he a coward or not? But even a coward can forget fear when mad enough, and as much as Radio feared Lotus, he was plenty pissed that she was ruining his plan. Quote:
But it's possible that English isn't Shiyumi's first language, in which case calling it "incompetence" is extremely inaccurate. I can't write Spanish or German AT ALL, despite taking classes in both. |
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2013-03-19, 17:00 | Link #28 | |
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I remember Radio's special move being illusion type and judging from his baton and its special ability, his fighting style probably is to stun/confuse enemies and use of hit&run tactics, which isn't a good match-up against Immobile Fortress. Something like rock paper scissors, where yellow > blue > red >yellow?
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2013-03-20, 00:32 | Link #29 | ||
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[Good spoiler.] Spoiler for Radio's plan to wipe Prominence clean:
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2013-03-20, 07:26 | Link #30 |
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There is no Rock Paper Scissors with the colors.
Blue beats Red up close, Red beats Blue from afar, and with Yellow it depends on the trick. Yellow is much harder to generalize than the other two, because their tricks aren't as simple as Sword or Gun. It may just be as simple as Radio having enough pride and ambition to set his fear aside to risk everything for the sake of advancing his situation. Especially when he's angry enough. |
2013-03-21, 22:07 | Link #31 | |
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I'm sorry to belabor the point like this, I just don't want a decision made based on a misunderstanding. |
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2013-03-22, 02:46 | Link #32 |
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Hmm.
I guess I'll quote the essential points and see if I can convince Xplorer30. I can already go make the changes, but I hope you understand my need to notify the rest so that we can update the pages for consistency across the volumes. Thanks! |
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