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Catgirls · 2006-08-21, 16:54

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hi no ken Jebus · 2006-08-22, 15:29

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dxgarten · 2006-08-22, 18:03

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bubu · 2006-08-23, 20:45

Gaack! Another episode dealing with the twins' "issues"? This is the second in a row!...and it's been the subject of 4 of the last 7 eps. It is getting a bit old.

Biswa · 2006-08-24, 22:15

I'm quite bothered with the twins "issues" and don't see why it takes so much to resolve it. Personally I don't like them that much (well maybe because i'm a straight man. I do like their funny moments, not their gay moments, bahahaha). But the last few episodes were kinda outside, so it's not as interesting, although always funny.

I'm guessing the show is saving up near the end for a prime Haruhi and Tamaki development episodes and will probably conclude with those two as the main focus.

horsdhaleine · 2006-08-28, 06:36

im tired of the twins... i want more tamaki...

wao · 2006-08-29, 10:01

Well I don't think there'll be any more twins-centered eps after this.

The next ep is about Mori-sempai (or rather, his brother) it seems, and the next 3 episode titles are, according to the Japanese wiki (and web newtype for the first one)

Spoiler:

All of them suggest they won't be twins-centered.

I think the screenwriter sacrificed the subject of the episodes for the general flow of the series. I guess he wanted to maintain a particular buildup of tension or mood in general and shifting the episodes around in a different way wouldn't have worked.

Either that, or the producers say "Leave Tamaki x Haruhi for the last!!!", and so he gets all the others out of the way and ends with Tamaki (and puts the twins in a bit of a bad light too).

By the way, for anyone who doesn't already know, it's been the exact same guy who has been writing the script from the show for all the episodes. The guy who wrote 20 out of 39 eps of Utena and all of Melody of Oblivion: Yoji Enokido. I think he worked on Sailor Star S (or whatever part of Sailor Moon that Ikuhara worked on.)

horsdhaleine · 2006-09-01, 10:40

ahhh so

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it must be difficult inside...

White Manju Bun · 2006-09-02, 12:02

I liked this epi, it was done different then the manga version. Yeah we've been seeing alot of teh twins lately but I liked seeing Hikaru blush when he was in the net with haruhi. Plus the look Tamaki had when the twins say they cant do Club activities and take Haruhi with them was priceless! Plus Nekozawa was in this epi!

Li Jianliang · 2006-09-02, 12:47

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Originally Posted by wao

The next ep is about Mori-sempai (or rather, his brother) it seems, and the next 3 episode titles are, according to the Japanese wiki (and web newtype for the first one)

It's about Mori and his apprentice.

Spoiler for The last couple of episodes of Ouran:

DragoonKain3 · 2006-09-02, 16:42

I personally don't mind the twins, mainly because I personally like Hikaru and Haruhi together moreso than any other Haruhi coupling. Lots more drama involved than all the other couplings combined, IMHO. XD

Still, that wasn't the reason I liked this episode so much. For some reason, Ouran has a tendency to make couples out of childhood friend (episode 2 and 6), and another one in this episode makes me extremely happy. Osana-najimi FTW!

i0td · 2006-09-02, 17:08

I also really do not mind the episodes featuring the twins. I admit that their stories have taken up quite a share of the series so far, but I have to confess that I do enjoy watching their characters evolve. Of course, like the majority of you, I am glad that the remainder of the series will focus more on the other characters. I am especially looking forward to watching Tamaki finally take the spotlight again.

Other than that, concerning this episode, I have to say that I had fun with Nekozawa's scheme to scare the wits out of class 1-A. lol notice how even their spirits were captured on film. And Renge's Halloween-special entrance into the classroom at the beginning of the episode was priceless.

9/10

Deathkillz · 2006-09-02, 17:49

yes the comedy is back up again

nice forcus on some minor chara...i feel sorry for the class rep

funny parts include when the class rep freaks out talking to haruhii and she has to tell him to carm down and when haruhi graps his "leaving spirit" back into his body XD

ooh and watching the twins get scared...i hope they had a good taste of their own medicine

priceless
Kaoru seems to want hikaru to move forward...that is soo touching /cry brotherly love...
10/10

Sorrow-K · 2006-09-03, 02:41

I prefer the twins getting episodes to Honey and Mori getting episodes, since there's far more complexity to the twins. Not that I thought this episode was brilliant. I think we've seen the best comedy this series has to offer, but I predicted this would happen from the beginning. Only very, very special comedies can stay consistently funny for the entire course of the series, and, unfortunately, Ouran isn't one of them. Admittedly, I chuckled every now and then in this ep, but it's just not ROFL funny the way it was at the beginning.

This has hinted for a while at a relationship between Hikaru and Haruhi (and, interestingly enough, done it from the point of view of Kaoru most of the time), but I can't see it happening... not before the end of this season, anyway. Which makes me ponder what the point is, past forcing twin development down our throats. The character development is slightly weakened by the fact that we won't see a huge plot before the end, but I shouldn't be too harsh on Ouran for that, since the plot was never the point in the first place. I'm just a bit concerned that some of the other components in Ouran that are the point are weakening with time.

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2006-08-21, 16:54	Link #1
Catgirls I am mowing clowns Join Date: Dec 2005	Ouran Host Club Episode 21 Discussion / Poll Welcome to the discussion thread for Ouran Host Club, Episode 21. Thread Guidelines No telling or asking for RAWs. Try to keep spoilers from the Manga out of the anime thread. If you need to in reply to someone with a reference to the Manga, either PM them or use Spoiler tags (see example below). Discuss your expectations of the episode if not aired. Be polite to your fellow forum members. Try to keep the discussion on topic and future episode spoilers out of the thread whenever possible. Spoiler Tag Usage Using Spoiler Tags is easy. Using this... [spoiler=title]Don't forget to use the spoiler title[/spoiler] ....will get you this... Spoiler for title: Don't forget to use the spoiler title

2006-08-22, 15:29	Link #2
hi no ken Jebus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	Spoiler: Fun episode it had everything i wanted to see: Renge, the twins, Tamaki being tamaki, and nekozawa. Mori got typecasted when he plays the frankenstein. The stuff with kaoru slowly realizing that things won't always stay the same was interesting as well. Anywho next week Mori's pupil.

2006-08-22, 18:03	Link #3
dxgarten Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Episode 21 screencaps and summary Spoiler: Definitely one of the best in recent weeks. I like the Class Iinchou and I hope he and Kaoru end up becoming friends. It's inevitable that the twins are growing apart as they get older and know more people. While it's sad, I think it's also good for them as individuals.

2006-08-29, 10:01	Link #7
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Well I don't think there'll be any more twins-centered eps after this. The next ep is about Mori-sempai (or rather, his brother) it seems, and the next 3 episode titles are, according to the Japanese wiki (and web newtype for the first one) Spoiler: 23 - Tamaki's Unconscious Depression [Suzumiya Tamaki no Yuuut- No wait, wrong show.] 24 - "And Then Kyouya Met..." [そして鏡夜は出会った - they never mentioned the subject of Kyouya's meeting, or it coudl be general, or more likely, my Japanese just sucks and I don't get nuances.] 25 - "Declaration of Host Club Dissolution" [Oh teh nos. On one hand I would LOVE it if this show ended with the Host Club dissolved and Mori and co actually graduating and everyone going their own (but still connected) ways; on the other hand I think it'll be hoping in vein... They have another episode and it's highly likely they'll end it with like "oh, we're forgiven, let's start it again!!1" .... I dunno, I haven't read the manga. But I doubt this is going to lead to a serious conclusion. Too bad.] All of them suggest they won't be twins-centered. I think the screenwriter sacrificed the subject of the episodes for the general flow of the series. I guess he wanted to maintain a particular buildup of tension or mood in general and shifting the episodes around in a different way wouldn't have worked. Either that, or the producers say "Leave Tamaki x Haruhi for the last!!!", and so he gets all the others out of the way and ends with Tamaki (and puts the twins in a bit of a bad light too). By the way, for anyone who doesn't already know, it's been the exact same guy who has been writing the script from the show for all the episodes. The guy who wrote 20 out of 39 eps of Utena and all of Melody of Oblivion: Yoji Enokido. I think he worked on Sailor Star S (or whatever part of Sailor Moon that Ikuhara worked on.) __________________ Thanks for the fish

2006-08-23, 20:45	Link #4
bubu Glittering Join Date: Jun 2006	Gaack! Another episode dealing with the twins' "issues"? This is the second in a row!...and it's been the subject of 4 of the last 7 eps. It is getting a bit old.

2006-08-24, 22:15	Link #5
Biswa Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004	I'm quite bothered with the twins "issues" and don't see why it takes so much to resolve it. Personally I don't like them that much (well maybe because i'm a straight man. I do like their funny moments, not their gay moments, bahahaha). But the last few episodes were kinda outside, so it's not as interesting, although always funny. I'm guessing the show is saving up near the end for a prime Haruhi and Tamaki development episodes and will probably conclude with those two as the main focus.

2006-08-28, 06:36	Link #6
horsdhaleine i miss japan! Join Date: Aug 2006	im tired of the twins... i want more tamaki...

2006-09-01, 10:40	Link #8
horsdhaleine i miss japan! Join Date: Aug 2006	ahhh so Spoiler: Tamaki, like others who might have feelings for Haruhi, is somehow pretending in order not to ruin the current condition of things... it must be difficult inside...

2006-09-02, 16:42	Link #11
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	I personally don't mind the twins, mainly because I personally like Hikaru and Haruhi together moreso than any other Haruhi coupling. Lots more drama involved than all the other couplings combined, IMHO. XD Still, that wasn't the reason I liked this episode so much. For some reason, Ouran has a tendency to make couples out of childhood friend (episode 2 and 6), and another one in this episode makes me extremely happy. Osana-najimi FTW! __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2006-09-02, 17:08	Link #12
i0td Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Desert, USA Age: 37	I also really do not mind the episodes featuring the twins. I admit that their stories have taken up quite a share of the series so far, but I have to confess that I do enjoy watching their characters evolve. Of course, like the majority of you, I am glad that the remainder of the series will focus more on the other characters. I am especially looking forward to watching Tamaki finally take the spotlight again. Other than that, concerning this episode, I have to say that I had fun with Nekozawa's scheme to scare the wits out of class 1-A. lol notice how even their spirits were captured on film. And Renge's Halloween-special entrance into the classroom at the beginning of the episode was priceless. 9/10

2006-09-02, 17:49	Link #13
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	yes the comedy is back up again nice forcus on some minor chara...i feel sorry for the class rep funny parts include when the class rep freaks out talking to haruhii and she has to tell him to carm down and when haruhi graps his "leaving spirit" back into his body XD ooh and watching the twins get scared...i hope they had a good taste of their own medicine priceless Kaoru seems to want hikaru to move forward...that is soo touching /cry brotherly love... 10/10 __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2006-09-03, 02:41	Link #14
Sorrow-K Somehow I found out Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	I prefer the twins getting episodes to Honey and Mori getting episodes, since there's far more complexity to the twins. Not that I thought this episode was brilliant. I think we've seen the best comedy this series has to offer, but I predicted this would happen from the beginning. Only very, very special comedies can stay consistently funny for the entire course of the series, and, unfortunately, Ouran isn't one of them. Admittedly, I chuckled every now and then in this ep, but it's just not ROFL funny the way it was at the beginning. This has hinted for a while at a relationship between Hikaru and Haruhi (and, interestingly enough, done it from the point of view of Kaoru most of the time), but I can't see it happening... not before the end of this season, anyway. Which makes me ponder what the point is, past forcing twin development down our throats. The character development is slightly weakened by the fact that we won't see a huge plot before the end, but I shouldn't be too harsh on Ouran for that, since the plot was never the point in the first place. I'm just a bit concerned that some of the other components in Ouran that are the point are weakening with time. __________________ .:The Nihon Review:.:Ikoku Meiro no Croisée:.:Tamayura: Hitotose:. .:Behind The Nihon Review:.:Understanding Guilty Crown’s Failure:. .:MAL:.:Twitter:.