Madoka Magica - Movie 3 Spoilers and Speculations

[bogcsa1013]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Sorry for the double post but here's the latest teaser. We already saw these scenes though:

The video was removed. Damn Sony

[Allium]

Just stumbled upon this:

Spoiler for Story outline for the third film.:

Madoka Kaname. Once a normal girl who led a happy life, she sacrificed herself to save other magical girls from the cruel fate that awaited them. Unable to let her memories of Madoka die, magical girl Homura Akemi continues to fight alone in the world that Madoka left behind, dreaming of meeting that nostalgic smiling face one more time...

Source: ANN

[Lord of Fire]

It's basically what we've already known for quite some time. Nothing really new here.

[omimon]

You know the truth is after 2 years since the TV broadcast ended I actually felt myself losing eagerness for this movie. I mean time erodes all.

And....then I watched the two movies and I remembered, "Oh yeah, this series is the very creation of the puppies and kitties and happiness mushed together."

[NutShell]

lol homura getting married it is quite big news for me

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Welp, the movie's coming to the United States, Canada, and France

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...france-in-2013

I'd imagine still coming to a theater nowhere near me, mostly because I am currently located in Norman, Oklahoma, and unfortunately will be for the forseeable future. Unless my university anime club can get permission to play it somehow...

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

^ Wow, Homura fits so well in that depressively dark background. I love it!


I can't wait to see Homura in action. I want her to finally be able to save/help Madoka on her own accord, or at least save Madoka's world. Homura deserves to be the hero for once. Besides, I think she needs that in order to fine closure before meeting Madoka again.

Originally Posted by Solace

How that plays out into the movie, I have no idea. Madoka's wish basically took all of that burden (and more) onto herself, but because of this she cannot directly interact with the physical world anymore. So assuming at least some of the teasers we've seen so far aren't just flashbacks, something went wrong and the wish was either altered somehow or there was a loophole/weak point that the wish didn't cover.....both of which are most likely being exploited by the Incubators.

That said, I'm hoping the movie doesn't just chew the girls up and spit them out. I'd much rather see an Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi scenario. Minus the Ewoks.

If Kyubey is involved, hopefully it will end with Homura unleashing her Homu-Rage and finding a way to permanently blow him to Q-Bits in the most epic manner possible. And judging from the "Everybody Hates Kyubey" pool at Danbooru, I'm not the only one who'd like to see that!

Edit: "Homu-Rage"... Think I'll use that with my avatar...

Originally Posted by woxx

She is still using machine gun in trailer when fighting Mami. It may be flashback but I don't think so.(it will be too bad if they fill short movie with flashbacks) Everything is possible, Homura definitely supported by Madoka in some ways.

I for one hope Homura keeps using military hardware in the new universe. I get the who symbolism of the bow, but the using real weapons really adds to Homu's badass appeal and, IMO she just isn't the same without her arsenal.

[Jimmy C]

To be realistic, getting real weapons was an option only because Homura had timestop. If she no longer has that, stealing guns out of military bases is nearly impossible, even for her.

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

To be realistic, getting real weapons was an option only because Homura had timestop. If she no longer has that, stealing guns out of military bases is nearly impossible, even for her.

I realize that, but I'm just saying, I hope she regains her powers for this movie.

[AuraTwilight]

Really, I'd rather she didn't, since nothing can top the Walpurgis fight and she has no reason to keep them. Let her just inherit Madoka's powers for symbolism.

Really, I'd rather know what 'this world's Homura' (before main Homura overwrote her memory) wished for. Did she wish to save that cat to continue the tradition of that cat being saved in every timeline?

[Kazu-kun]

^ Urobuchi doesn't even now how the cat is called, so I doubt Homura's wish relates to it in any way.


But I agree it's an interesting question. What did Homura wish for in a world where she never knew Madoka? Whatever it is, I hope it helps to explain her powers, especially the witch-like black wings from the epilogue of the tv series.

[AuraTwilight]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

^ Urobuchi doesn't even now how the cat is called, so I doubt Homura's wish relates to it in any way.


But I agree it's an interesting question. What did Homura wish for in a world where she never knew Madoka? Whatever it is, I hope it helps to explain her powers, especially the witch-like black wings from the epilogue of the tv series.

Still, with that drama CD stating that Homura goes out of her way to save that cat in every timeline as tribute to Madoka, it'd be hilarious if it became outright confirmed that this cat is safe in every possible universe. XD

Aside from that, the only thing I can think of is that Homura made a wish that's idealistic and Madoka-y, establishing an in-universe reason for their metaphysical connection.

As for the wings, my personal headcanon is still "Madoka appears to those who lose hope > Homura knows this > Homura can never completely lose hope > Whenever her soul gem would otherwise darkens, she hears Madoka, gets happy, and releases all the Grief in a super attack."

[Shadow5YA]

I'm not so sure they would (or even need to) reveal Homura's wish in the new Madokaless world. I'm thinking it would be similar to Steins;Gate's time travel narrative, where the main protagonist's consciousness is transplanted into the new world.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I'm not so sure they would (or even need to) reveal Homura's wish in the new Madokaless world. I'm thinking it would be similar to Steins;Gate's time travel narrative, where the main protagonist's consciousness is transplanted into the new world.

Isn't that basically what Homura does anyway? She doesn't make a wish every time loop, she just goes back to when she was in the hospital, memories and powers intact.

[Jimmy C]

The problem with that and the final timeline is there appears to be a second "consciousness transplant" event after Sayaka dies. That seems to cause quite a bit of head scratching.
Despite that, I favor the idea myself.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I'm not so sure they would (or even need to) reveal Homura's wish in the new Madokaless world. I'm thinking it would be similar to Steins;Gate's time travel narrative, where the main protagonist's consciousness is transplanted into the new world.

Originally Posted by Solace

Isn't that basically what Homura does anyway? She doesn't make a wish every time loop, she just goes back to when she was in the hospital, memories and powers intact.

The difference is that in every previous timeline, the original Homura goes back one month in time, when Homura was in the hospital and still wasn't a magical girl. She's automatically turned into a magical girl when the soul/consciousness from the original Homura takes over her body.

In the new world, on the other hand, the original Homura takes over when Sayaka dies, and it's clear the Homura of this world already was a magical girl since before the point.

So, this means the Homura of this world, a Homura who didn't know Madoka, made a wish and became a magical girl for some reason. Then, later on, the consciousness from the original Homura took over her body, but retained the powers the Homura of this world already had.

If you think about it that way, it's really not that hard to understand.

Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

As for the wings, my personal headcanon is still "Madoka appears to those who lose hope > Homura knows this > Homura can never completely lose hope > Whenever her soul gem would otherwise darkens, she hears Madoka, gets happy, and releases all the Grief in a super attack."

I heard that explanation before, but it's a bit too out there for me. So I would prefer if they establish a connection between her wish in that world and the witch-like wings.

[maximilianjenus]

Agreed, the bigger "problem" here is that when homura changed from one world to the other before only very minor thing would change; while for the latest world we see, madoka rewrte all of history ; I think they won't really change the impact of the historic ahou shoujo and we will only see a few things that change for the current generation of mahou shoujo.

[KoiYuki]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

2. 1:31 - So... either Madoka Magica is turning into Persona, or Homura wants to commit suicide... Anybody want to take a stab at this?

I'm wondering if it was a proof that their souls aren't in their bodies, and they don't die as long as the soul gem is fine? Like some previous timeline where she showed that as a horrific example to someone for some reason.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

The difference is that in every previous timeline, the original Homura goes back one month in time, when Homura was in the hospital and still wasn't a magical girl. She's automatically turned into a magical girl when the soul/consciousness from the original Homura takes over her body.

In the new world, on the other hand, the original Homura takes over when Sayaka dies, and it's clear the Homura of this world already was a magical girl since before the point.

So, this means the Homura of this world, a Homura who didn't know Madoka, made a wish and became a magical girl for some reason. Then, later on, the consciousness from the original Homura took over her body, but retained the powers the Homura of this world already had.

If you think about it that way, it's really not that hard to understand/

I never said it was hard to understand.

I was wondering how it's relevant to the story. The Homura we know took over, and more than likely the narrative will focus on her. I don't really think who the former Homura of the new world was matters.[/QUOTE]

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I was wondering how it's relevant to the story. The Homura we know took over, and more than likely the narrative will focus on her. I don't really think who the former Homura of the new world was matters.

Well, that depends on what sort of story they're going to tell. I just think it would be cool to know her wish, mostly to see how it relates to her powers.

[maximilianjenus]

My guess is that gen wantsh to end "madoka's" history by ending homura's so he/someone else can start writing the new arc using new magical girls (I lost track of the article, but several new mangas have been confirmed, one of which is about a new magical girl, it is even named after her), so doing something like gundam -> gundam.