Learning Japanese

[Raiga]

Originally Posted by Honeysuckle

from a jargon in typesetting?

http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp...il/q1320366738
(japanese page)

Ah, cool, thanks. ^^

[sadisticlust]

This thread is awesome. Arigato

[Raiga]

If I'm writing a report on a historical figure (already dead) should I use an honorific or can I just use their name straight?

[Honeysuckle]

Originally Posted by Raiga

If I'm writing a report on a historical figure (already dead) should I use an honorific or can I just use their name straight?

You don't have to woryy about honorific words.

だいじょうぶ。敬語も敬称も必要ありません。

[Raiga]

Originally Posted by Honeysuckle

You don't have to woryy about honorific words.

だいじょうぶ。敬語も敬称も必要ありません。

Thanks. ^^ I kind of figured because that's the style Wikipedia uses, but it's good to have confirmation.

[Kyuu]

Hmm. Who here uses the JLPT app.? It's free.

While I played around with it - for the first time in a while - I actually surprise myself. Although, this should be downplayed, because it's generally multiple choice. Even so, it's a nice way to drill kanji and vocab.

[For~Eternity]

JLPT is nice for practice and review. Not the ideal study source because of the multiple choice, as you said, but I still find it useful.

[Mystique]

Originally Posted by Kyuu

Hmm. Who here uses the JLPT app.? It's free.

While I played around with it - for the first time in a while - I actually surprise myself. Although, this should be downplayed, because it's generally multiple choice. Even so, it's a nice way to drill kanji and vocab.

It'd help if you provide a link for others to check it out too, you know.
Especially if you think it can help others and you're recommending it

[Soliloquy]

Here is a LINK you may know that will really help you learning the language. Learned it for 6 months and it definitely makes a difference. Compared to learning in my high school, you learn much quicker if you have a good memory.

[For~Eternity]

Thanks for the new link, that site is super cool. I'm going to start using it to study more.

[Qikz]

I have a question, what's the proper writing format for Japanese? I've been writing a blog in Japanese for the past year (it's not very good, I've been using it to practice and I think I'm getting better now) but I still don't understand how to properly format it.

I've seen blogs online which start a new line after every 。 and also some that don't. Would anyone be able to tell me what the correct format is to write in?

[fanty]

A question: What's the difference between "敵討" and "復讐"?

[Honeysuckle]

“敵討(仇討)” ⊂ “復讐”
My English is poor. I can't explain it in detail.


礼記(a chinese classic "The Book of Rites" ) says "父之讎、弗與共戴天".

“父之讎、弗與共戴天”
→“父の讐は、共に天を戴かず”
→ "As long as you breathe, you must try to kill the murderer who killed your father".

In the Edo period, a man who killed the murderer of his father was praised.
This was a duty of Samurai class and legal till 1873. (敵討)


en.wiki "Book of Rites"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Rites
ja.wiki "礼記"
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A4%BC%E8%A8%98
ja.wiki "敵討"
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%95%...A8%8E%E3%81%A1

[Kylaran]

Originally Posted by fanty

A question: What's the difference between "敵討" and "復讐"?

Originally Posted by Honeysuckle

“敵討(仇討)” ⊂ “復讐”
My English is poor. I can't explain it in detail.


礼記(a chinese classic "The Book of Rites" ) says "父之讎、弗與共戴天".

“父之讎、弗與共戴天”
→“父の讐は、共に天を戴かず”
→ "As long as you breathe, you must try to kill the murderer who killed your father".

In the Edo period, a man who killed the murderer of his father was praised.
This was a duty of Samurai class and legal till 1873. (敵討)


en.wiki "Book of Rites"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Rites
ja.wiki "礼記"
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A4%BC%E8%A8%98
ja.wiki "敵討"
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%95%...A8%8E%E3%81%A1

After reading the links provided by Honeysuckle (thanks), I think a more succinct answer would be thus:

敵討 is read using kunyomi, reading as かたきうち or あだうち、combined from the two words かたき or あだ meaning foe/adversary and うつ meaning to strike. However, it refers specifically to the act of seeking revenge for wrongs committed toward your ancestors; this law was codified during the Edo period, as Honeysuckle mentioned. My guess is that the kunyomi reading largely has to do with this being a native Japanese law.

復讐 is read using onyomi, and refers in general to revenge. Hence, the Honeysuckle's comment “敵討(仇討)” ⊂ “復讐” with the inclusion symbol. I do think they have similar roots though, seeing as the concept for avenging a wrong against an ancestor has been cited as early as the Book of Rites from Zhou dynasty China.

[Pink Cow]

Wow, lots of Japanese learners!

Are any of you subscribed to TextFugu? I want to know if it's as good as the creator says it to be.

[Yuri Jacobs]

Originally Posted by Pink Cow

Wow, lots of Japanese learners!

Are any of you subscribed to TextFugu? I want to know if it's as good as the creator says it to be.

TextFugu? Never heard of it, but I would like to know about it.

[Pink Cow]

Originally Posted by Yuri Jacobs

TextFugu? Never heard of it, but I would like to know about it.

It's supposedly an online textbook for self-learners. I provided a link in my previous post. Just click the word "TextFugu". The creator is Koichi who also hosts the blog, tofugu.com. He also makes really interesting videos about Japanese language and culture on Youtube.

He's pretty interesting. Try checking him out sometime. ^^

[Redoaxe]

Can someone translate this?
"Win and Lose Conditions"

[larethian]

Originally Posted by Redoaxe

Can someone translate this?
"Win and Lose Conditions"

win condition: Defeat Riinhart (which is the guy marked by 02)
lose condition: All allies annihilated

[Redoaxe]

Originally Posted by larethian

win condition: Defeat Riinhart (which is the guy marked by 02)
lose condition: All allies annihilated

Thanks!
It will be easier now that I know I just need to kill the 'boss' and not the mobs.

Btw, Sorry for posting it here, I didn't found the translation thread.