(L) Druaga no Tou: Sword of Uruk (second season)

[BrokenWingz]

Originally Posted by justinstrife

Wow... Just wow... -face palms-

Protection or motherly love... So she wants a momma's boy as a lover?

Might as well put Jil in a rubber room so he can't hurt himself. I mean it's in his best interests right?

I've never had a girlfriend who would do what Kaaya did. Hell I don't even know any girlfriends or wives who would act like her selfishly. Not if they were worth a damn in their relationships. And I've known a few who've served in the Army and Navy.... -shakes his head-

Lol, I'm surprise you take thing so literally. An indication of expression was what I'm trying to say. They are common feelings females tend to exhibit when wanting to protect something.

I'm starting to sense a pattern somehow I believe my words are not reaching simply because you're not trying to understand or refuse to understand from another perspective. Might I add you're trying to generallise everything? Not everyone moves the same way you think they will. Just because you never had a girlfriend acting the way kaaya does doesn’t mean people don’t act that way and also kaaya is kaaya, using another person you know as an anecdote is illogical because it can never represent kaaya mentality you’re simple pushing your idea of a perfect girlfriend on to others.

[Voitan]

Originally Posted by BrokenWingz

It isn't betrayal it is protecting the one she likes, if all action involving one party disregarding their partner and selfishly acting in accordance with their will are considered betrayal even with good intention than the world is in chaos. (of course everything here are hypothetical until I know kaaya reason)

It is still without a doubt a betrayal.

It needn't be repeated for the upteenth time, but Kaaya had no trust nor faith in Jil's ability to understand or do what would come after the defeat of Druaga. She didn't tell him what would be ahead or what would happen, she just backstabbed him to go with a jerk that Jil and his party no doubt despise.

If she cared about him and everyone else that much, she should of told the party what was up.

[Marina Ismail]

Well I'm back... XD as for the shipping? IMO it has reached the Macross Frontier lvl now. Where it was Ranka vs Sheryl, it's now Fatina vs Kaaya and it's only been 1 ep *sigh*. Too bad I am not on the same side as my fellow Sherylettes but that is all I'll say on the pairing...

The person with the purple hair that was eating with those 3 sisters... is it a guy or girl?

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Marina Ismail

The person with the purple hair that was eating with those 3 sisters... is it a guy or girl?

If you're talking about Henaro (not sure if that's the official spelling), I can't really tell just looking. But she seems to be female, being voiced by Hanazawa Kana who's never voiced a male character to my knowledge.

[BrokenWingz]

Originally Posted by Voitan

It is still without a doubt a betrayal.

It needn't be repeated for the upteenth time, but Kaaya had no trust nor faith in Jil's ability to understand or do what would come after the defeat of Druaga. She didn't tell him what would be ahead or what would happen, she just backstabbed him to go with a jerk that Jil and his party no doubt despise.

If she cared about him and everyone else that much, she should of told the party what was up.

"neighbourhood thread stalker at your service, Lol I should be more active in other thread so whats new these day".

The gray area of betrayal lies within the intent of the user, for malice reason it would be sufficient enough to call it betrayal but the word is too literally to be used for dishonesty... so someone seeking death is hinder or saved with a lie would that be consider an act of betrayal. Surely enough in any circumstance saving someone life is more important, even through a lie. Rather looking at the events from Jil's view, the intention is also important rather than the act itself.



I can with confidence disagree on this matter, It is rather doubtful Kaaya had zero trust/faith in Jil may be less trust/faith because clearly she left Jil full of regrets. The emotional attachment of being remorseful wouldn't exist if she didn't have some confidence in Jil, maybe Neeba had the better success rate. Playing with odds as they are with the consequence of death isn't something people would with.

Originally Posted by Marina Ismail

Well I'm back... XD as for the shipping? IMO it has reached the Macross Frontier lvl now. Where it was Ranka vs Sheryl, it's now Fatina vs Kaaya and it's only been 1 ep *sigh*. Too bad I am not on the same side as my fellow Sherylettes but that is all I'll say on the pairing...

The person with the purple hair that was eating with those 3 sisters... is it a guy or girl?

I haven't seen macross but I’m not feeling see the huge shipping war. lol, am I guilty myself from a numerical point of view it's not that large comparatively.

[Wargumm1i]

It seems that so called "Druaga" which Jil defeated, was only a guardian to the second part, so the either real Druaga is at the very very top of the tower.

[Zekori]

Ten bucks says its Gilgamesh, he's cursed after all and killed Drauga before. Wouldn't surprise me with his personality loop considering from Ki's speech. Doubt Gilgamesh would die however, bet he gets cleansed if you go with that theory.

[NaweG]

Could a moderator please create a "Romance" thread for this series? This is beginning to look an awful lot like the shipping wars over at Macross Frontier, and I was hoping to not have another series to follow that I'd have to read through so many posts that just argue about who will end up with whom, and why whom defending whom is wrong, and why whom should know that defending whom who was talking about whom...

Enough already

[NoLongerSane]

Just wondering when Coopa and Melt are going to make their appearance in this season. It nice that Utu will probably join the team for the second climb, but who can beat Coopa's inhuman strength and personality.

[technomo12]

question

why sword of uruk???

i mean does jil did a small job change a became somthing like a Nuker or som sorts???

[Zekori]

In Aegis the theme of Jil besides wanting to become a hero (and redeem his father) was his resolution protect his comrades with his shield.

Who knows what Jil will go through in the second season, but I assume he'll be doing a lot more stabby stabby, or move towards a resolution to protect others by taking a more offensive role.

[Magin]

I've heard that the title was changed because Aegis is some sort of armor for protection, and Jil was going to be a protector last season (and we all know where that got him)

I think sword is supposed to mean he's now going to be an agressive person and fight his way into the tower... or something like that

and though I really don't want to get involved in the shipping wars, now that I think about it, what Kaaya did to Jil is something classic in anime- betray the one you like/love and keep secrets from them so that they supposedly don't get hurt by further dangers... obviously, she thought he wasn't ready to face what is probably further ahead, and was trying to protect him out of love or something. And if you've seen enough anime, you know thgis is something that's been around forever

[-Sho-]

Sword of Uruk because Jil will get it (maybe not )

[Voitan]

Originally Posted by BrokenWingz

"neighbourhood thread stalker at your service, Lol I should be more active in other thread so whats new these day".

You should probably explain this before any further discussion is laid out, because that looks like a swipe at my character, or are you jokingly referring to yourself in this case?

[kujoe]

Originally Posted by Zekori

In Aegis the theme of Jil besides wanting to become a hero (and redeem his father) was his resolution protect his comrades with his shield.

Who knows what Jil will go through in the second season, but I assume he'll be doing a lot more stabby stabby, or move towards a resolution to protect others by taking a more offensive role.

I think they're two opposite themes. The shield connotes a desire to protect, while the sword is a killing weapon.

I wonder if this season is more about the idea of slaying something... or someone. I imagine Jil might have to make an important choice later on.

As for Gilgamesh, I also wonder if defeating Druaga means that you replace him, thus keeping up a cycle that ensures there's always a master for the tower forever.

[BrokenWingz]

Originally Posted by Voitan

You should probably explain this before any further discussion is laid out, because that looks like a swipe at my character, or are you jokingly referring to yourself in this case?

Lol?
I will need to at least have some knowledge about you or your history to make such a claim, of course I could just run a search but im not that kind of person that would intimidate others. It is a reference to myself

[Wandering_Youth]

Spoiler for Episode 01 - Fansub:

A pretty refreshing first episode I have to say. It was interesting to see our young heroes now falling back down to ordinary day life and doing mundane things like working a job and such. Yet, at the same time it felt entertaining to see our heroes fallen so low with no fame and fortune for what they did.

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by BrokenWingz

"neighbourhood thread stalker at your service, Lol I should be more active in other thread so whats new these day".

The gray area of betrayal lies within the intent of the user, for malice reason it would be sufficient enough to call it betrayal but the word is too literally to be used for dishonesty... so someone seeking death is hinder or saved with a lie would that be consider an act of betrayal. Surely enough in any circumstance saving someone life is more important, even through a lie. Rather looking at the events from Jil's view, the intention is also important rather than the act itself.

You're sugar-coating everything. I'm not surprised. You can call it a 'gray area of betrayal', but it's still a betrayal, a very bad one at that. Reality cannot be sugar-coated.

[technomo12]

i see this season might takle more on the affensive side of jil

[FateAnomaly]

He killed Druaga and gained 1m exp and reached lv20. So he is going to get a promotion and change class.