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Zdrok · 2006-08-07, 06:03

as above, what is the chance. if you think about it you only really need two people to create the actual manga at most. for drawing and story. then you need all the ... publishing and editing and whatever.
but for someone who lives in the united states, and manga is constantly being pumped out by large japanese companies or w/e, what is the serious chance that creating a manga is possible for a normal person living in the U.S.

Sunabouzu · 2006-08-07, 06:37

well i don't know much about the situation in the US but here is mi opinion...
(first of all, i think the chance is as big as to find a yuri/yoai anime with an awesome story^_^)
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u need luck my friend...you have to send examples to som publisher and if u are lucky they like it or thinks that it makes money

or u need money to print some yourself and search for stores there they would sell your stuff and then if u are lucky (luck once again^^) they see that it makes money and help you....

xris · 2006-08-07, 09:52

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Originally Posted by Zdrok

as above, what is the chance. if you think about it you only really need two people to create the actual manga at most. for drawing and story. then you need all the ... publishing and editing and whatever.
but for someone who lives in the united states, and manga is constantly being pumped out by large japanese companies or w/e, what is the serious chance that creating a manga is possible for a normal person living in the U.S.

Since you are not Japanese, plus not in Japan, the best you can do is produce "manga inspired comics"

You do not need two people nor do you need a publisher. There are a number of comic artists who produce, market, sell, the entire comic themselves.

Here are a couple of American examples.
Dave Sims - Cerebus (Wiki)
Mark Oakley - Thieves & Kings (website)

Or you can try publishers such as TokyoPop to publish "American manga" (or whatever they are calling it nowadays). If you want to try and break into the actual Japanese manga workplace, you have two chances, slim and none.

And since this isn't directly releated to anime, moving the thread to the Manga forum.

Supergrunch · 2006-08-07, 12:14

There are a couple of books out in the uk with short "manga" stories by British people, that won various competitions.

drgntig · 2006-08-07, 12:31

you should know that it always depends.

you see if its a shojo and has a really good storyline then in your in luck.

because it would probly get published

however if its a shonen, even it has a good story. it probly won't make it because shonenis really repetitive and theres alot of it.

sorry but this is what i think.i didn't mean to shoot down your idea if i did.

shadow dragon spawn · 2007-01-16, 22:54

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Originally Posted by xris

Since you are not Japanese, plus not in Japan, the best you can do is produce "manga inspired comics"

You do not need two people nor do you need a publisher. There are a number of comic artists who produce, market, sell, the entire comic themselves.

Here are a couple of American examples.
Dave Sims - Cerebus (Wiki)
Mark Oakley - Thieves & Kings (website)

Or you can try publishers such as TokyoPop to publish "American manga" (or whatever they are calling it nowadays). If you want to try and break into the actual Japanese manga workplace, you have two chances, slim and none.

And since this isn't directly releated to anime, moving the thread to the Manga forum.

I definetily agree with you, but belive that you can create an amerucan manga you just need a japanese publisher (vai mail.) I think tokyopop really isn't that seriuous most of the time and i think manga should be seriuous with a strong plotline

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Vexx · 2007-01-17, 01:38

Um... you don't need a "japanese publisher" to produce an "american manga" (by which you probably mean an american-based 'manga-style' comic).... (unless you're writing it in Japanese and have really good connections in the japanese publishing industry for japan).

You might take a look at a "manga" doujinshi that is a just a little popular called Megatokyo (at Megatokyo.com). It started out as a web comic and has turned into a full time job, store, published volumes (published by the likes of Dark Horse Comics for example), etc. Fred Gallagher is the creator. It gives you some idea of what it takes and the dedication involved. I'll say one thing though... spelling and grammar are extremely important for any sort of publishing work, no matter what language the story is executed in.

blahdida · 2007-01-17, 02:07

I hope those non-japanese manga artist at least take some authentic lessons "in japan" so they dont produce crappy mangas (stares at those ones with stereotype manga based "gigantic eyes" manga with almost triangular heads.)

Forbin · 2007-01-17, 12:02

Watch Comic Party...except for the beautiful girls, it's pretty close on how the Mangaka process works.

Chiibi · 2007-01-17, 13:13

What if you're fluent in Japanese and find your way over to Japan? Would they accept you as a manga artist if you have talent? What if you could actually write your manga in Japanese?

blahdida · 2007-01-17, 14:00

from what i know of, no, usually manga artist would not hire/ teach any non artist to help them. Since usually for beginners there are schools for manga drawing also in universities they have manga(dojinshi = =lll) clubs that have enjoyment in doing well... dojinshis. Also there are schools for each and different part in a manga drawing such as character creation, plot making, scenery creation...etc. But from what ive heard manga artist have a hard time due to just catching up to the deadline

Chiibi · 2007-01-18, 09:54

No, I mean, what if you want to do it on your own, not as an assistant but as an independent thing?

chison · 2007-01-18, 16:30

just do it as a challeging first time(don't except a high end finish the first time^^)

BLEACH had a crapped one first...it just evo the second times

blahdida · 2007-01-18, 17:26

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Originally Posted by Chiibi

No, I mean, what if you want to do it on your own, not as an assistant but as an independent thing?

You have to first make a project then send it to manga magazine companies (shonen jump...etc) and only if they accept your project(really hard) then they boot the lowest rating manga and put you in ^^, then they give you deadlines once a week or month = =

Sole · 2007-01-19, 06:39

I don't know about manga publishing myself.

But imo the chance of you creating a manga is pretty high

There're independent artist who draw their own web manga or comics, and publishes them on the web, so I think having someone to publish it for you is the hard part, but you should have no problem making your own if you have the time.

As in working in japan, I think the chance is lower, you'll need to have something to offer them that their other mangaka does not have.

2006-08-07, 06:03	Link #1
Zdrok Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	whats the actual chance of creating a manga as above, what is the chance. if you think about it you only really need two people to create the actual manga at most. for drawing and story. then you need all the ... publishing and editing and whatever. but for someone who lives in the united states, and manga is constantly being pumped out by large japanese companies or w/e, what is the serious chance that creating a manga is possible for a normal person living in the U.S.

2006-08-07, 06:37	Link #2
Sunabouzu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 36	well i don't know much about the situation in the US but here is mi opinion... (first of all, i think the chance is as big as to find a yuri/yoai anime with an awesome story^_^) ------------ u need luck my friend...you have to send examples to som publisher and if u are lucky they like it or thinks that it makes money or u need money to print some yourself and search for stores there they would sell your stuff and then if u are lucky (luck once again^^) they see that it makes money and help you.... __________________

2006-08-07, 12:31	Link #5
drgntig i'm psychic.god says hi. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: tucson arizona Age: 32	it depends. you should know that it always depends. you see if its a shojo and has a really good storyline then in your in luck. because it would probly get published however if its a shonen, even it has a good story. it probly won't make it because shonenis really repetitive and theres alot of it. sorry but this is what i think.i didn't mean to shoot down your idea if i did.

2007-01-17, 01:38	Link #7
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Um... you don't need a "japanese publisher" to produce an "american manga" (by which you probably mean an american-based 'manga-style' comic).... (unless you're writing it in Japanese and have really good connections in the japanese publishing industry for japan). You might take a look at a "manga" doujinshi that is a just a little popular called Megatokyo (at Megatokyo.com). It started out as a web comic and has turned into a full time job, store, published volumes (published by the likes of Dark Horse Comics for example), etc. Fred Gallagher is the creator. It gives you some idea of what it takes and the dedication involved. I'll say one thing though... spelling and grammar are extremely important for any sort of publishing work, no matter what language the story is executed in. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories! Last edited by Vexx; 2007-01-17 at 02:37.

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blahdida Member Join Date: Jan 2007	I hope those non-japanese manga artist at least take some authentic lessons "in japan" so they dont produce crappy mangas (stares at those ones with stereotype manga based "gigantic eyes" manga with almost triangular heads.) Last edited by blahdida; 2008-07-20 at 16:15.

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Supergrunch Tegenaria gigantea Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Near London Age: 34	There are a couple of books out in the uk with short "manga" stories by British people, that won various competitions.

2007-01-17, 12:02	Link #9
Forbin I'm a sucker for Harem Join Date: Aug 2004	Watch Comic Party...except for the beautiful girls, it's pretty close on how the Mangaka process works. __________________ My Favorite Anime Quotes Courtesy of Answerman of ANN: 1) By and Large...they are and ***. 2) What kind of girls do Anime Otaku males want? ..................... Female. 3) The odds are good, that the goods are odd.

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Chiibi Vanitas owns you >:3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: in a boring place you will not want to go to	What if you're fluent in Japanese and find your way over to Japan? Would they accept you as a manga artist if you have talent? What if you could actually write your manga in Japanese? __________________

2007-01-17, 14:00	Link #11
blahdida Member Join Date: Jan 2007	from what i know of, no, usually manga artist would not hire/ teach any non artist to help them. Since usually for beginners there are schools for manga drawing also in universities they have manga(dojinshi = =lll) clubs that have enjoyment in doing well... dojinshis. Also there are schools for each and different part in a manga drawing such as character creation, plot making, scenery creation...etc. But from what ive heard manga artist have a hard time due to just catching up to the deadline

2007-01-18, 09:54	Link #12
Chiibi Vanitas owns you >:3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: in a boring place you will not want to go to	No, I mean, what if you want to do it on your own, not as an assistant but as an independent thing? __________________

2007-01-18, 16:30	Link #13
chison GSNMaSter Artist Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sheffield Age: 38	just do it as a challeging first time(don't except a high end finish the first time^^) BLEACH had a crapped one first...it just evo the second times

2007-01-19, 06:39	Link #15
Sole Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006	I don't know about manga publishing myself. But imo the chance of you creating a manga is pretty high There're independent artist who draw their own web manga or comics, and publishes them on the web, so I think having someone to publish it for you is the hard part, but you should have no problem making your own if you have the time. As in working in japan, I think the chance is lower, you'll need to have something to offer them that their other mangaka does not have.