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Old 2012-01-29, 09:17   Link #19941
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@ Eras

yes they do.

As for the way of writing, he's just influenced by Gundam, just like I'm influenced with Front Mission :|
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:20   Link #19942
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@zero: which one O:
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:20   Link #19943
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Then wouldn't the "Ichika's a clone of Chifuyu." theory be bunk since he's already fundamentally different from her?
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:23   Link #19944
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For "Uchigane" vs "Blue Tears", here's Riz and Gin (Excerpt from their duel in Vandam):

Spoiler for Excerpt:
Sorry, I draw heavy inspiration from Chinese martial arts movies when I do fights.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:24   Link #19945
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This is related to non-sex Chromosome (Remember that human has 22 pair of chromosome plus additional pair that determined their gender, XX and XY). If someone has a way to get around this, Ichika can have all Chifuyu genes and yet is a guy.

@ Demi

I play 1, 3 and 4, I briefly play Online version as well. This is why I portray I.S. as real robot with super robot features instead of other way.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:25   Link #19946
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@ Meistah - When'd Karon get so smart

@ Senpai - Would that still make it incest if Ichika and Chifuyu got together?
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:28   Link #19947
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Yes, actually, that count as both parental Incest and Self-cest.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:28   Link #19948
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@Eras: That's the only time she's smart though, when watching IS fights, and when in an IS. Its the same reason why she stops being a dojiko inside a suit. IS compensation for physical impairments.

After all, I wanted to subvert the Falling Into The Cockpit trope by making Karon obviously competent at her trade.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:28   Link #19949
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the biggest drawback in a realistic fight between uchigane and blue tears is flight capability. Uchigane can't fly at the same altitudes as the blue tears and blue tears has practically all range weaponry(if she could only get over her panic of getting in melee range :eyeroll: ). Taking into account ability of Uchigane to deflect laser beams with the sword(which requires godlike reflexes to dodge, let alone parry from 1 blaster though she's applying this to 5 blasters). Then there's Cecilia's other abilities to consider, unlesss you don't include thsoe D:
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:31   Link #19950
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I circumvent around this that Ichika has super reflex and ByakuShiki has Hi-grade sensor as default (normally additional parts), sacrificing basic Fire Control System in process.

And the fact that ByakuShiki has higher output than BT.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:32   Link #19951
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@ Meistah - All those analytical capabilities and she still can't cook basic things? Talk about selective intelligence

@ Senpai - If the genes were randomized, that doesn'f make them a clone, right?
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:32   Link #19952
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Byakushiki has no problem with the range because it can fly at the same altitudes as BT and has superior speed and agility :|
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:32   Link #19953
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For "Uchigane" vs "Blue Tears", here's Riz and Gin (Excerpt from their duel in Vandam):
The suspense...!

I guess the the sniper rifle was at its last shot in the magazine? If it's a bolt-action rifle, I can understand the crippling reloading time but semi-autos usually use mags.

As for Tsurugi and Cecilia's case, the former manages to damage the latter's sniper rifle to the extent that it can no longer fire. (Though the katana suffers slight damage as well, in a form of a barely noticeable crack)

For the wing bits part:
Spoiler for Scene excerpt:
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:33   Link #19954
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Nope, he still are, unless Ichika is the result of mix-and-match, that makes him Chifuyu's son by default, not clone.

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All Tsurugi need is something to distract Cecilia.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:34   Link #19955
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@ Senpai - What would you call a clone of a clone?
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:35   Link #19956
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Which is why:

If it were normal pilots, the Tears wins by spam alone.

But its Riz, who has Oowashi flight pack equipped. She who could strike down a dozen IS at once with blindingly fast sword strikes.

And she's against Gin. The only non-graduate pilot in NCCS who can Double Shot, which is a move that puts 2 shots at the exact same spot from a semiauto. This causes shields to deform to the 1st shot, then the 2nd shot hits the weakened spot, causing it to break and trigger ABS. In other words, a 1 shot kill.

I guess though, Riz still has a chance as the MP version of Tears doesn't have funnels, but has the Hi-MAT system in its place. If Riz was against Cecily, the Oowashi pack would provide the means to close at high speed. Even without Oowashi, and with Tenmoku, Riz can still dodge around looking for an opening.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:37   Link #19957
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@ Meistah - Christ, where did these girks get their training? They sound like special ops, not idols.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:37   Link #19958
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I don't know about that really...
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:38   Link #19959
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the fancy terms are lost to me but all I can think of is gundam to fill in the blanks. Then I get images of akatsuki versus freedom... I honestly say that things don't look pretty for Akatsuki any way I slice it.
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Old 2012-01-29, 09:40   Link #19960
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@ Senpai - Is it even possible to do? I'm just wondering since it's most likely Ichika's not a clone in FI.
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