Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai - Light Novel Discussion

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Xero8420

Tell that to Oreimo. Kuroneko was very popular in popularity back then. Until the series finale, she got a heart-wrenching end. And the fan base enraged and threatened to give the author a piece of mind.

I fear the same would happen to Sena fan base in this series.

Originally Posted by Pablete

To Oreimo, Shuffle, Mashiro Symphony, Clannad, etc.

Did you guys even read the post? Or just saw someone mention "popularity poll"? What do those stories have to do with Haganai? Or better yet, what do they have to do with my point? I'm not even responding to your "statements" so please just end it here.

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Did you guys even read the post? Or just saw someone mention "popularity poll"? What do those stories have to do with Haganai? Or better yet, what do they have to do with my point? I'm not even responding to your "statements" so please just end it here.

I think they meant that popularity is not the way to determine the "winner" in a harem series,even development,it's who the author wants to end the MC with,

Spoiler for Comparison to Oreimo:

like in Oreimo,Kirino wasn't the most popular girl (and include her being the sister of Kyosuke) but she ended up being the end girl,

which I know,polls are nothing I just keep on pointing about the polls that some Sena fans in the past also kept on harping how popular she was,and sure end girl in this thread but I point how she fell from the most important poll in Japan and I get attacked for bringing up popularity polls

But don't mind them,it's your opinion after all.

[Xero8420]

Saying that popularity poll is a "FACT" to determine the likelihood of who will be the winner, is not a correct way. Because it don't necessarily applied in every harem series, as the most popular one doesn't mean she's definitely the end girl, no. If people think like that basing on popularity, they're sadly mistaken as they may not realize that chances are their wishful thinking might backfire them when that's not the ending they were expecting. Generalizing something based on perceptions don't actually seem convincing at all. You cannot think this way. The best way is not to keep your expectations high, but not too low either. It's up to the author to decide who would be the end girl, as long as it's not an asspull one.

Also, I'm not an unreasonable person who would just simply go ballistic on you like you think. Because when you said "popularity poll is a FACT to determine the winner", I would throw those words back to you.

Even though it's your opinion, it doesn't mean that it can't be disputed when flaws were discovered from your statement. And no one is forcing you to continue the debate nor to end it just because it's unbearable for you.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Xero8420

Saying that popularity poll is a "FACT" to determine the likelihood of who will be the winner, is not a correct way. Because it don't necessarily applied in every harem series, as the most popular one doesn't mean she's definitely the end girl, no. If people think like that basing on popularity, they're sadly mistaken as they may not realize that chances are their wishful thinking might backfire them when that's not the ending they were expecting. Generalizing something based on perceptions don't actually seem convincing at all. You cannot think this way. The best way is not to keep your expectations high, but not too low either. It's up to the author to decide who would be the end girl, as long as it's not an asspull one.

Also, I'm not an unreasonable person who would just simply go ballistic on you like you think. Because when you said "popularity poll is a FACT to determine the winner", I would throw those words back to you.

Even though it's your opinion, it doesn't mean that it can't be disputed when flaws were discovered from your statement. And no one is forcing you to continue the debate nor to end it just because it's unbearable for you.

You basically expanded on what I said. The only reason I originally mentioned popularity polls was to say that Sena was in the lead at the time in the polls, not to state she was going to win, and that she had the most character development. The "fact" I mentioned was only to correct a previous poster that they have influenced the winner in stories in the past just like sometimes the stories take detours and someone out of left field is chosen. Personally I could give a shit about popularity polls or who main girl is. What I DO pay attention to is formulas I've seen in the past with other stories or what makes sense from a writing stand point.

[reynoldszac]

Oh my god. Everything I've read so far after not reading anything on this series for a couple months pretty much gave me the picture of a train wreck. And when I say train wreck I mean the Sena train crashing into the Yozora and Rika trains and Yukimuras for a huge pile up what the hell is going on?!

[Daysun22]

so, I'm at a loss here. Kodaka is dating Yukimura now? What about Sena? Also, when did Vol. 10 come out?

and from the looks of it, the LN series just got cancelled?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Daysun22

so, I'm at a loss here. Kodaka is dating Yukimura now? What about Sena? Also, when did Vol. 10 come out?

and from the looks of it, the LN series just got cancelled?

It didn't get cancelled... though next volume could possibly be the last one (depending on how much misdirection is going on). Volume 10 just came out recently, and it ended with a cliffhanger that seemed to imply that Kodaka had accepted Yukimura's confession after being stunned by her kissing him... but we'll have to see what it all means next volume. I don't think Sena or any of the other girls know that Yukimura made her move yet, nor do we know what their reaction to it is going to be... But given that the central plot of the series resolved around the friendship club, and now most of them have acknowledged that they are actually friends, the central premise of the work is wrapping up.

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It didn't get cancelled... though next volume could possibly be the last one. Volume 10 just came out recently, and it ended with a cliffhanger that seemed to imply that Kodaka had accepted Yukimura's confession after being stunned by her kissing him... but we'll have to see what it all means next volume. I don't think Sena or any of the other girls know that Yukimura made her move yet, nor do we know what their reaction to it is going to be...

Honesty I'm skeptic about this whole Kodaka accepting Yukimura's confession, it just so out of character for him. I'm having a feeling that there might be a troll at work doing this, until someone here who actually has the volume and it said Kodaka really accepted her confession. Until then I'm kinda treating this as some really good trolling instead.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Honesty I'm skeptic about this whole Kodaka accepting Yukimura's confession, it just so out of character for him. I'm having a feeling that there might be a troll at work doing this, until someone here who actually has the volume and it said Kodaka really accepted her confession. Until then I'm kinda treating this as some really good trolling instead.

I don't think anyone's trolling in terms of what it actually said in the volume. He gets cornered and kissed, and realizes that Yukimura is that serious about him and has been all along, and in response to that he accepts her request. But that doesn't necessarily mean that this is like a wedding engagement already, or that he's realized that she's the true love of his life already or something. It doesn't necessarily negate his feelings for the other heroines either, like he decided he wasn't in love with Sena, Rika, or whoever else. We'll see how it all plays out.

[Pablete]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

I don't think anyone's trolling in terms of what it actually said in the volume. He gets cornered and kissed, and realizes that Yukimura is that serious about him and has been all along, and in response to that he accepts her request.

Until that part is when the vol.10 ending.

Such a painful cliffhanger for readers...


Btw, is it me or other author is giving some critics to Hirasaka Yomi's?
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-25088.html



lol I read also someone saying that if the author isn't careful he is going to end like Infinite Stratos's author

[Marcus H.]

Apparently, Kouta Akizuki wrote ラブ妹　素直な自分になれる魔法.
The article also mentions the "seating order" explanation in the light novels.

[mblaney]

I read rumors that volume 11 will be the final one. Does anyone know if this is true?

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by mblaney

I read rumors that volume 11 will be the final one. Does anyone know if this is true?

The series is already over, lol. Volume 11 is an epilogue. Good riddance, the author really really dropped the ball with this story.

[Chosen_Hero]

Yukinura end?... how?, I mean when was it ever hinted that she would be the end girl? Are you seriously telling me that she got partially developed amd got to be the end girl within the same volume? How does that even make sense?

So what about Sena? The one that got developed to hell and back, the Kodaka said he loved and said he'd wait until after graduation to date, the one he told that he wasn't thinking of dating anyone else from the club, the one that was hinted since long ago to be the end girl, what the hell happened to all of that? Did none of that matter?

So he loved Rika too? Didn't he just like her as a friend, which is why they became friends?

So Yozora's problem got fixed in an instant?

Yukimura? Really? I mean I like her and all but she never seemed like end girl material, I mean come in she basically jad the same problem as Yozora in that they both only fixated on Kodaka and never thought much of anyone else in the club.

So I basically wasted my time yet again on another series, this is literally Oreimo 2.0, if the spoiler are true than this was an a-hole move on the authors part and I won't be reading anything by this author again (just like with Oreimo).

[supersmashman50]

I swear if sena doesn't win then I feel like i have wasted so much time reading this stuff. Not because i'm a die hard sena fan, but because so much of this story was devoted to learning about her life, her family, and her connection to kodaka. compared to sena, we as the reader barely know anything about yukimura, rika, or even yozora's lives beyond school and the club. If the author knew from the start that it wasn't going to be sena who won, or if he just hadn't decided yet he could have fleshed out the other candidates back stories a bit more.

[Pablete]

It seems what I heard about the author being mediocre when finishing his previous series was indeed true.

[bastek66]

What's Japanese readers' reaction to this blunder of the century?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

The series is already over, lol. Volume 11 is an epilogue. Good riddance, the author really really dropped the ball with this story.

I think it's worth waiting to see what the author meant by that. Keep in mind that, in the author's opinion, the key point of the story was the progression of the club and their friendship, and not Kodaka's love life. So an epilogue to the story of the club doesn't necessarily mean that the cliffhanger ending of the recent volume is all there is to say about everything else.

Originally Posted by Chosen_Hero

So what about Sena? The one that got developed to hell and back, the Kodaka said he loved and said he'd wait until after graduation to date, the one he told that he wasn't thinking of dating anyone else from the club, the one that was hinted since long ago to be the end girl, what the hell happened to all of that? Did none of that matter?

It simply hasn't been dealt with at all yet. People are completely rushing to the conclusion that this is a Yukimura end just because of a cliffhanger, but the resolution and denouement has yet to happen. Even if he does end up dating her, there are still a lot of loose ends to wrap up. It's not like he made a consideration of all the love interests in his life and decided rationally that she was the girl he loved most of all.

[Kadmos1]

In that I haven't read the LN yet (other than skimming through the translations), while I know it might not be set in stone yet, is Sena currently the girl most likely that Kodaka will end up with?

[allfictions]

Originally Posted by Kadmos1

In that I haven't read the LN yet (other than skimming through the translations), while I know it might not be set in stone yet, is Sena currently the girl most likely that Kodaka will end up with?

Ha.

Hahaha.

Hahahahahahahaha!

Oh you poor, poor summer child, you don't know what has been discussed these last pages, do you?