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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 14 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 103 | 45.98% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 58 | 25.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 19 | 8.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 16 | 7.14% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 10 | 4.46% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 5 | 2.23% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 3 | 1.34% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.45% | |
1 out of 10 : Tortuous... | 8 | 3.57% | |
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2012-10-06, 16:21 | Link #101 | |
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The other possible explanation is that, as M.A.D said, she broke the laws of the game, just as Kirito did. Which I guess is okay too, but that too isn't clearly stated. You can interpret that as the reason why Asuna too cleared the game, or you can say that she was allowed to live because of the promise Kayaba made to Kirito before the battle. Either way, I guess, requires some interpretation.
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2012-10-06, 16:22 | Link #102 |
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Ok. That Immortal Object fiasco was for Heathcliff. He was an immortal object when Kirito slashed him right?
When they decided to duel, he changed his status to Mortal object so that everybody can see he's not cheating or anything. Spoiler for Comparison to the novels:
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2012-10-06, 16:24 | Link #104 |
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This is my first time, in my life of watching anime, I had tears of sadness and tears of joy welling up in my eyes in a SINGLE episode. This episode is perfect. Shows the powerful love between Asuna and Kirito - even in a virtual world. Having strong relationships to each other in virtual worlds can bring relationships to real worlds; at least that's what I learned from this anime. I can't wait for the next episode. I am really curious on how everyone would react to find out who completed to game.
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2012-10-06, 16:29 | Link #106 | ||||
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Hm. I don't really disagree, but could you name off some of those instances? Stuff like.. the ghost of the guy's wife in the Murder arc? Quote:
1. The person who had the item, Klein, was paralyzed. 2. He could of very well used that item on the next random person he saw die. Quote:
Well, why shouldn't he be able to do so? Most people just seem to give up after their HP runs out. Plus, the story seems to imply that as their body becomes transparent, they become weaker. He was still standing due to the fact that he had a sword in him, so all he had to do was thrust Asuna's rapier into Heathcliff. Quote:
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2012-10-06, 16:32 | Link #107 |
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I prefer to discuss it rather than just come to the foregone conclusion that "the series relies on quite a few ass-pulls, that's a fact". If things aren't clear, then discussing our interpretation of events and seeing if the story itself proves them either correct or incorrect seem to me like a pretty valid line of conversation.
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2012-10-06, 16:43 | Link #109 | |
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I don't want, nor do I need to be spoon fed, but if a character does something that, based on everything you have seen up to that point, shouldn't be possible, I want an explicit explanation of why it was possible. I don't want that particular thing to be left to interpretation. I even think that's a writing issue right there.
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2012-10-06, 16:44 | Link #110 | |
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Another asumption many make is that peoples who die in the game instantly die in the real world as well, what about it potentially could be differ in time, what about it being headcliff who actually in the end send the terminate command? What if... what iff... and so on what I'm trying to say is that you need to asume something first and totally strongly belive it in for the rest to hold true, but some stuff have never been explained, most just asume it. There is many many potential ways to explain it but I'll leave most of them out of here, however I have theories about this debate but since I cannot post it here as it requires future events, PM me if you guys die to know but I would not recomend it as it would potentially spoil. This is indeed a Typo lol, as we all know, quite common in Anime. |
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2012-10-06, 16:52 | Link #111 | ||
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(BTW if it IS "the power of love" responsible, I'll accept what happened, but I'll still find it stupid. )
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2012-10-06, 17:03 | Link #112 | |
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I guess I can understand that people would prefer for these sorts of questions to be cleanly answered. I personally enjoy trying to figure it out on my own, so I guess it doesn't bother me as much. I always assume there's some sort of rational explanation for everything until proven otherwise (but the laws of what is "rational" are a bit of a funny thing in a videogame world).
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2012-10-06, 17:05 | Link #114 | |
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Once Kayaba himself said he had planned to betray everybody and turn into the "Final Boss", the dual wield awarded to the "Hero" and that he had planned this world and setting all along you could start to interpret it as him already choreographing the "Ending", although it was a premature one. In how many RPGs, barring the retries, do you see an ending where the Hero doesn't win or one of the characters sacrifices him/herself for the Hero. Edit: Coming back to Kayaba's wish to create and live in his own Fantasy world. If you ever played pen & paper RPGs and taken the role of dungeonmaster or gamemaster you can imagine Kayaba's mind set. Sometimes you want the players to follow the flow of the story or set them on an specific goal and you end up pulling stuff out your ass to cover for "unexpected behavior". |
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2012-10-06, 17:06 | Link #115 |
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Not really sure why people want concise detailed explanations for every single thing. Sometimes things happen because the story called for it to happen. Its like the whole deal with "how are people kept alive"
It boggles my mind why that became the focus of many posts and episode threads when it really isn't an important issue to the story. They didn't even have to try to give an explanation about it in story, at the end, you could just have kirito waking up in the hospital, and everyone be like 'oh they were all in a hospital' who would have imagined.... Even without properly explained, Asuna surviving, shouldn't come up as some big impossible conclusion. Given that even though the game code is suppose to be strong, there were instances where things went against the game code. Wife's ghost @ the grave. The Emotion Assistance AI thing going out on its own. Hell, minutes before, Asuna broke free of the GM-Paralysis Powers, and seconds before. Kirito was able to deal damage after HP going to 0. You can think of different ways for why Asuna lives. There's no exact reason why, other than that's what the story called for. You can dislike that as much as you want, but I don't see how you can see it happening to be an impossibility. It doesn't even have to be in the game-code. Kayaba might just wanted to let her live because he felt like it. These two gave him enough entertainment the whole two years, it be a shame to break them apart. Standard psycho. Spoiler for Comparison to Accel World:
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2012-10-06, 17:10 | Link #117 | |
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2012-10-06, 17:18 | Link #120 |
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That studio fail, "Chaged into Immortal Object", google translate would have done a better job. Hope they'll fix it in BD, otherwise it's just too sad
I wish they had changed the duel a bit, saying he won't rely on sword skills and using them 5 seconds later (/facepalm). It'd have made more sense for him to realise his mistake after activating his skill, followed by a monologue. That plothole, Asuna's HP dropped to zero and her avatar vanished. According to Ep.1, her brain should have been fried, there was a two minute animation gap between her death and Heathcliffs' (~40 seconds between her death and Heathcliff wounding Kirito). Yet we see her still alive standing on the platform. Kayaba Akihiko, if he had a short beard I'd have called him the younger brother of mad scientist, Hououin Kyoma! Next episode, "Return", will probably focus on their real life after SAO.
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