2010-10-12, 02:27 | Link #18043 | |
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For example I won't be playing episode 8 until a proper guide for the choices is out
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2010-10-12, 02:28 | Link #18044 | |
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2010-10-12, 02:29 | Link #18045 |
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Here's an idea a friend of mine mentioned that I absolutely love, as long as it's done well.
You play as Meta-Battler and Meta-Ange, and you have to blue truth explain the twisted scenarios that Bernkastel presents and prove the real truth. You, as the player, solve the mystery yourself. Thus, Ryuukishi doesn't provide the answers. You do. And there's multiple endings, and there's no distinction between the right and wrong endings - they just end and we have to debate about what's right, because Ryuu's a troll. |
2010-10-12, 02:31 | Link #18046 | |
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2010-10-12, 02:33 | Link #18048 | |
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2010-10-12, 02:40 | Link #18051 | ||
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Hmm... choosing Yasu and then having to pick between Battler, George, and Jessica... Of course, the true gender could switch depending on who you pick. Wait, I hope this doesn't become an eroge.
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2010-10-12, 02:41 | Link #18052 | ||
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOQI-LAEzM Only with George shooting bolts of fat at Battler, then a half-dead Gohda would appear out of nowhere and hurl him down a space shaft (just go with it) in a noble act of self-sacrifice and redemption. Thus completing the story and establishing that Umineko was really always the story of the Rise, Fall, and Redemption of Magical Chef Gohda. Edit: Oh lord, I just watched that video while picturing those three characters as having the sprite's faces for the corresponding characters. Quote:
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2010-10-12, 03:27 | Link #18053 | |
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1. Troll 2. Troll even more 3. Troll again BEST.CHOICES.EVER! Depending on your choices, you get a different end with Lambdadelta. And, of course, you'll be aiming for the top... unless you want bottom, if you know what I mean. ftfy
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2010-10-12, 05:30 | Link #18054 | |
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Being serious, the prospect of choices doesn't sound appealing to me. Not even considering that I would get bad ends after bad ends because no matter what I play it is always like that. It's just impossible for me.... no matter what kind of choices I am presented.
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2010-10-12, 07:15 | Link #18055 |
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Okay calm, don't panic. This is Ryuukishi teasing us, it's probably that.. yeah it must be!
Well seriously... I really hope we won't get multiple realities. Even if there is a choice pattern it doesn't mean there won't be a single solution to the mysteries. I can make a notable example "Shadow of Memories", where you actually need to play all the different endings to get the whole picture. So each ending is a piece of the whole puzzle rather than one of many different outcomes. Since Umineko involves fictions and metaworlds it is possible that there might be different outcomes in the "golden land", that can be understandable, but this story shouldn't leave doubts about what really happened on rokkenjima prime, I personally wouldn't like that kind of ending...
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2010-10-12, 09:38 | Link #18056 |
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I still believe the multiple realities would be the same as Lion's reality. It doesn't really "exist," but it is still a possible reality. This means, that's not part of the answer for our story, but it certainly broadens our knowledge regarding a particular character and certain situations.
Also, again, R07 didn't say it'd you'd play as a certain character, but as a character. So, this is not limited to one, but perhaps we'll get to play through several character's viewpoints, and this way broaden our knowledge on their personalities and actual motivations. We'd be seeing the same situation from many different perspectives. If you ask me, that'd be rather interesting.
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2010-10-12, 10:25 | Link #18057 |
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Having had some time to sleep on it, I can better clarify the reasons why this would be a bad idea as we are now speculating. I reserve, of course, the possibility that he was kidding (it would seem contradictory to his blog post), or that what he means by choices and endings doesn't necessarily mean what we're expecting. In the latter case, it'd be much easier for him to "do it right," but I'd have no idea how so I couldn't long speculate on it.
So anyway, reasons why a "standard VN choice node" approach would be bad:
I have trouble believing any story told with choices that lets you approach the truth of the incident could meet the conditions Battler set forth in the epilogue of ep7, however. Unless that's a hint as to how to make our choices, and even then, it'd probably lack the flair some people seem to be anticipating it would have.
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2010-10-12, 12:29 | Link #18058 |
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Anyone else considered that Umineko could just be Ryukushi seeing how long he can get away with making it up as he goes along?
In any case, playing as the murderer would be great, and could help show their motive and any difficult choices they may have made. |
2010-10-12, 12:59 | Link #18060 |
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That really bothers me, yeah. If he's gonna do it, it has to be the only way he could have done it. If he's going for an ambitious, sweeping end, then by all means. But if it aspires to that, it's gotta live up to it, or else there doesn't seem to be a particularly good reason to do it.
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