Waited to see the last episode at Anime Expo, which kind of sucked. I'm not at all fluent in Japanese but I can understand a great deal and basic conversation, with that being said the set up was terrible. The screen was in line with the subtitles and the heads cut off most of the words.
The last episode was really well done loved the Gilgamesh scene XD. God I love him...anyway love how it wrapped up so well. I haven't read the novel so I can't compare. Some things weren't clear not sure if it was heads or if some parts were left out. But overall great last episode.
Also a huge shout out to the moron at the convention who was asking why Kiritsugu wasn't more badly burned. Way to waste a question buddy!
The worst part was that this ending wasn't really shocking and, to me, is the weakest part of the entire series. Since most of it needed to fit on the canon for Fate/Stay Night to happen. But at some points I feel this could be helped by standing on its own. The ending those brings closure to this story but in such a sand, unfulfilled and kind of disappointing manner that I almost feel cheated. Not “bad” but really could be better.
a very good anticlimactic episode for Fate/Zero
not the best but definitely needed to be a prelude to the next Grail War
Sakura with her new twisted personality, Rin with her 'crazy' tutor, and Shirou with his dream
Honestly, I really feel bad that Kiritsugu never manage to reunite with Illya
I really pray that in other parallel universe, Kiritsugu will live happily with Shirou and Ilya
Anyone know with certainty whether or not Lancelot actually spoke his last words aloud to Saber or was he just thinking it? The part when he says she was the greatest of kings.
I thought he was just thinking it but some people thought otherwise in this thread.
He actually said it, the picture just show it after he has spoken it.
In other words, he started talking when Saber killed him ( witch was his wish, see extended material for more info ). He said that to her, and just as he said that famous sentence he lose consciousness and fell to the ground, disappearing into the ashes of history.
I was explaining to someone that the reason Saber disappeared was because she destroyed the grail with her noble phantasm. Without the grail, servants cannot remain in the real world. He responded by saying if that were the case, Gilgamesh should have disappeared as well (before getting splashed by the mud).
Is there a delay between servants disappearing after the grail is destroyed? Then it would make sense. Anyone know what to make of this?
I was explaining to someone that the reason Saber disappeared was because she destroyed the grail with her noble phantasm. Without the grail, servants cannot remain in the real world. He responded by saying if that were the case, Gilgamesh should have disappeared as well (before getting splashed by the mud).
Is there a delay between servants disappearing after the grail is destroyed? Then it would make sense. Anyone know what to make of this?
The Archer class has the Independent Action skill making them be able to stay for a certain duration in the world when their contract is broken.
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Originally Posted by http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Archer
Their main class ability is "Independent Action”; the ability to act independently for a length of time without an active supply of prana from their Master. This makes them suitable as scouts; it allows them to survive for duration of time if their contract with their Master is severed with more time granted by higher ranks.
The Grail claimed it would grant Kiritsugu's wish by doing exactly what Kiritsugu has been doing his entire life, but on a larger scale (killing all of humanity). Could the grail make such a thing happen if Kiritsugu wished it? The whole thing about the grail being an omnipotent wish granting device is a farce, so I would assume no, right?
The Grail claimed it would grant Kiritsugu's wish by doing exactly what Kiritsugu has been doing his entire life, but on a larger scale (killing all of humanity). Could the grail make such a thing happen if Kiritsugu wished it? The whole thing about the grail being an omnipotent wish granting device is a farce, so I would assume no, right?
Seems like it.
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Originally Posted by http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Holy_Grail
It is, however only a clump of magical energy and thus is not as omnipotent as people believe it to be, so wishing for something like "Saving the World" without specifying a working method will not suffice. Even if someone lacks power or wealth, the Grail can possibly carry out such a wish if they knew "the method of Saving the World." Kiritsugu Emiya, knowing only the practice of "sacrificing few for the benefit of many", was shown such a vision of "what would happened if the World was saved", though the corruption caused him to be shown the most malicious imagery of his "saved world." Had he followed through with it, the Grail would have realized it with certainty.[1] Ultimately, it can only amplify the scale of realization of wishes with working methodologies and is incapable of granting true miracles.
That is actually really smart for most of how these kind of plot device wish making things use to work, but this still bothers me.
The idea of the boats and everything requires so many specifics that I am surprise Kiritsugu didn't saw it himself. The Grail is creating a situation and answering without giving any other solution rather than him shooting people, is so obvious the situation could have been sort out in many other ways and we did saw Kiritsugu being able to decide when killing innocents was out of the question. I mean he did evacuate the building before blowing it up when attacking Kayneth at his home.
However killing all mankind won’t save anyone because we are all dead. I thought good was dumb not evil. I think the idea was fine, to show the Grail isn’t what the hero needs, but on the way of doing so makes it sound like it wasn’t really thought well since it didn’t offer something that made sense.
Originally Posted by Fate/complete material III: World material - FAQ with Nasu: Holy Grail War, p.131
Q: I thought that the Lesser Grail collected “All the World’s Evil (Angra Mainyu)” when it was defeated during the Third Holy Grail War, but then how was the Greater Grail corrupted by “All the World’s Evil (Angra Mainyu)”? Is it because energy flows from the Lesser Grail to the Greater Grail when the two are linked?
A: It’s because Avenger himself is “a Heroic Spirit born into existence according to people’s wishes”. Other Heroic Spirits are recognized as true heroes, but Avenger represents the belief that “heroes” are lies and fabrications. The enshrinement of humanity’s selfish desires turned Avenger into a Heroic Spirit, creating a direct connection to the wish-granting function of the Holy Grail. The Greater Grail, “activated 3 times without granting anyone’s wishes”, turned into its present state as there was still a chance to grant somebody’s wish. As a result, Avenger was born into this world in order to grant everybody’s desire for an existence like “All the World’s Evil (Angra Mainyu)”.
It is fun answering your questions (to a certain extend), but most of your answers can be easily found if you checked the TYPE-MOON Wiki. I would recommend to first check the Wiki before asking a question, unless you don't want to potentially get spoiled, by reading the Wiki.
I also recommend using the Fate/ Series night Q&A thread for asking questions. The episode threads are for discussing the episodes.
