(L) Fate/Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works Movie

[0rphen21]

Originally Posted by Darkside

Yes that is when it happens.

Thanx Darkside

[Jarmel]

The movie was as an absolute mess. But by god is it gorgeous. This is quite possibly the best animation I've ever seen. Sweet god is it gorgeous.

[Nerroth]

I thought it wasn't bad.


One thing that occurred to me when watching a certain scene;

Spoiler for stuff:

What kind of questions might pop up in Shirou's mind about some of the images he saw during that vision? For example, would he put two and two together and realise who the girl being taken away was... or if not, would he ever get around to asking Rin about what had happened?

Although, I guess if Shirou didn't raise the issue, and Rin didn't feel like volunteering any further info, not much would come of it.

[Yuno]

I must confess I figured out Emiya and Archer by their eyebrows. It's silly I know, but it was the first thing I noticed when I saw the game.

Haak: Hehe, maybe dread isn't the best way to approach the movie, to be honest I dreaded it as well after reading the posts here, but I watched it anyway. I am still not sure what I wish to take away from this movie...

[Archon_Wing]

Anyhow, I finished. I did like Rin's reaction after the mana recharge scene. And also at the very end.

Though the main problem I had was that the sudden appearing of characters. It's almost like they just come out and go "lol sup" and start the next fight. But the worst has gotta be near the end where

Spoiler:

Saber's just like "lol bye." In all of 15 seconds

[Reckoner]

Honestly, I recommend everyone who likes Fate/Stay Night enough to play the game. The VN is a glorious experience.

[outcast_within]

Originally Posted by Sora Kasugano

I must confess I figured out Emiya and Archer by their eyebrows. It's silly I know, but it was the first thing I noticed when I saw the game.

Haak: Hehe, maybe dread isn't the best way to approach the movie, to be honest I dreaded it as well after reading the posts here, but I watched it anyway. I am still not sure what I wish to take away from this movie...

But how does that work? Is he from the future?

[Yuno]

Sort of from the future, in the game they explain it quite well and the movie to some degree. Archer is the heroic spirit created as the embodiment of Shirou's ideals. He is the result of Shirou's path to heroism. The only thing is Archer is quite jaded due to the things he has faced and is different from the current Shirou who hasn't become a hero just yet.

What tipped me off was the similarity in eyebrows and the fact that archer couldn't remember who he was a long with a few things he says in the game in the beginning.

[outcast_within]

But how can the embodiment of ideals of a person in the present have a past, as if, he has lived in the future.

[Shiroth]

Finally had time to sit down and watch it. Sure it had pretty horrible pacing problems, though i wasn't really expecting a good job to be done of forcing the UBW path into 1 hour and 45 minutes. Apart from that, it was highly enjoyable, what with A+ voice actor, animation that seriously blew me away during each battle scene, and a Kenji Kawai score that delivered oh so well. I'm satisfied on some levels, and that's something i could never say about the TV series.

Plus this film was worth it just to see Lancer's multiply scenes of awesomeness. There's a reason why he's my favorite male character in F/SN. :3

[Darkside]

Finally had the time to watch the whole movie instead of just specific scenes and I thought that from about midway to the end it was pretty decent, but oh god the beginning was just a huge mess.

Some things I liked and somethings I disliked are...

Spoiler for movie:

Likes:

-Beautiful artwork and animation.

-Good voice acting. They all seemed really into their roles.. especially Gilgamesh and Shinji lol.

-Good music

-Lots of cute facial expression from Saber :3

-Archer vs Shirou from the start of the EMIYA theme.

-Berserker vs Saber.

-Gilgamesh vs Berserker.

-Lancers death.

-Archer being himself

-The dream sequence Shirou had inside UBW when he sees Archer.

-Taiga's reaction to Rin and Saber being at the breakfast table.. though Saber's existence was kinda completely ignored :|.



Thinks I disliked:

-Lack of UBW chants.

-Not even establishing the fact that Shirou knows magic until he suddenly projects Kanshou and Bakuya.

-The mentioning of certain points without any followup or anything to precede them. (ex: Rin and Saber saying how Archer won't be saved even if he kills Shirou, when they make no mention of him eternally being a slave to his ideal as a Counter-Guardian.)

-Only one line from Kuzuki in the entire movie.

-Not being told of Rins plan for defeating Caster and Kuzuki.

-The stupidly fast pacing in the first like 30 mins.

-Lack of small things like Shirou's reaction in the VN to Archer saying "Trace on!" at the church, Saber saying "Archer..why?" at the end of his duel with Shirou.

-No scene of Rin using her command spell to force Archer to not kill Shirou. The movie made it seem as if she was totally unaware that Archer had even tried to until she suddenly blurts out "You're STILL trying to kill Shirou?!" in the church.

-Archer using Unlimited Blade Works against Shirou in the beginning of their duel.

-The way Archer kinda just let Shirou stab him in slow motion seemed a bit awkward. I know that's pretty much what really happens, but Archer was suppose to like space out for a moment or so which led to him not being able to block an attack he should have easily been able to block.

-Lack of Ilya. My memory of the kitchen.. I mean non-key events from the VN is a little fuzzy, but a quick conversation of Ilya and Shirou meeting at the park before her death would have been nice. His reaction to her death and calling her Ilya seemed weird considering he only saw her once.



Things I HATED:

-The abomination that took place inside of Shirou's reality marble. They couldn't just stick to the script and did it how it was supposed to play out. They even made a contradiction with the anime with the whole Caliburn vs Gram fight.

-Shirou's pro sword deflecting skills inside of Archer's reality marble. I wish they would have just stuck to the script and had him reproduce the sword rain -_-. Also that GIANT sword.. I don't even..

-The scene with Saber disappearing.

-Those disgusting generic red swords Archer was using throughout his entire fight with Shirou. Were they really too lazy to draw Durandal?

To me it kind of seems like they started the movie in the middle and then realized that they had no more room to fit rather important things like introductions and certain key events in the beginning. Another 10-20 minutes could have made the overall flow much nicer. Even shortening some scenes like Saber vs Berserker, CG dolphin scene, and the scene black screen + red text during the duel could have made enough time to add in some better scene transitions.

[Haak]

Lol. Did anyone notice the "Ashes to ashes. Dust to Dust" incantation Rin used against Casters skeleton familiars at 25 mintues. That was in To Aru Majutsu no Index.

And i seriously loled at how Kuzuki didn't get a single line.

[Chiu_fan]

Originally Posted by outcast_within

But how can the embodiment of ideals of a person in the present have a past, as if, he has lived in the future.

It's because of the catalyst Rin used in her summoning ritual. The jewel that she used to save Shirou, Archer had it too, Rin also stated that it was one-of-a-kind.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Cherry_Lover

Probably. I've only ever played the game, though (except for watching a few scenes of the anime), so I'm not sure. It's clear that he cares a lot for her, but that doesn't mean that he's from an Ilya route. Fate Shirou would care a lot for her too. Most likely Archer is from a route much like Fate, probably where he was not as close to Saber.



Erm, I meant Ilya would be (as opposed to in Fate, where she dies a year later).



Well, the Ilya route was originally meant to branch off from HF (and I believe a lot of the HF plot (in particular the stuff to do with Angra Mainyu and the explanation of the true purpose of the Grail War) was originally supposed to be in there), so it wouldn't have been much like Fate.

Spoiler for Game:

Wouldn't Ilya's route or at least Shirou becoming Archer start from the point in the HF route where he lets Rin kill Sakura?

[Haak]

Blargh.

It's about what i expected except there are also a lot of hammy moments aswell. And the Rin-Dolphin scene was so God damn painful it almost made me ashamed of being a Type-Moon fan.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Haak

And i seriously loled at how Kuzuki didn't get a single line.

He had one actually, when he said Caster's name before she disappeared.

[Cherry_Lover]

Spoiler for Game:

Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

Wouldn't Ilya's route or at least Shirou becoming Archer start from the point in the HF route where he lets Rin kill Sakura?

I doubt it, because it's quite clear that he would end up betraying Ilya too. Plus, what is known of Archer's backstory doesn't fit with it following a MoS-like ending.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Cherry_Lover

Spoiler for Game:

I doubt it, because it's quite clear that he would end up betraying Ilya too. Plus, what is known of Archer's backstory doesn't fit with it following a MoS-like ending.

What does MoS stand for?

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Beginning was a huge pacing/transitiona mess (I expected that though), however the second half settled down and it was much better because of it. Knowing all the inbetweens of the story definitely helped me get pass a lot of the problems and just enjoy the film.

Overall I enjoyed it quite a bit, but cannot deny that the story was a convoluted mess that will irritate many many people. I guess I'm satisfied in respect to just seeing many scenes I liked animated, but the movie forces you to imagine many of the blank areas and again the only reason I enjoyed it was that I new the whole story and I'm content with imagining the rest. I'll probably purchase the movie despite all it's problems just as I did for the series.

[Cherry_Lover]

Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

What does MoS stand for?

Mind of Steel.

Spoiler for HF:

It's the HF bad end where Shirou allows Rin to murder Sakura because she might kill others.