Canvas 2 ~Niji-iro no Sketch~

[Sailor Enlil]

Originally Posted by mangatron

Spoiler:

So that's how Saya-chan keeps her body in such a beautified state...I forget what they call that particular thing in Japan....

Spoiler for Saya-chan's thingy:

It's called a Naginata

[mangatron]

Originally Posted by Sailor Enlil

Spoiler for Saya-chan's thingy:

It's called a Naginata

Actually, I meant what activity she was doing, not what she is wearing

Because no matter what she wears, she looks good, I was just wondering how she managed

[MonkeyBrains]

Originally Posted by mangatron

Next episode, 16, is about her [Shie Sugihara, the editor lady]. Oh, that must mean we are at episode 15

Hello all, I hope you don't mind me going on and off the forums from time to time, alot of questions to be answered, alot of info to give out, etc....but I've been trying to catch up with some old friends from my beta testing days, which has been a real blast, literally

Hmmm.. I suppose at this rate episode 17 will probably be the green haired chick wearing glasses and driving a motorcycle in the intro.

I think I can guess part of episode 16 already - Shie will be asking Kiri about Kiri's love life (or lack thereof). I wonder if ep 16 will be like the Sumire episode (which was mostly Sumire and Elis), and not involve Hiroki that much (and instead focus on Kiri and Shie, along with Hagino, of course).

Episode 15 seemed alright, for what it was. But after episode 13 and 14, it's kind of a harsh transition to go to a character-portrait episode...

[mangatron]

Originally Posted by MonkeyBrains

Episode 15 seemed alright, for what it was. But after episode 13 and 14, it's kind of a harsh transition to go to a character-portrait episode...

Spoiler:

Yeah, it's what I was referring to when I said "let's forget about Yanagi for the rest of the ep" Although, I did enjoy the amount of Saya, I'm still in shock from episode 14, that Yanagi left so early lol.....

[tun]

Originally Posted by mangatron

Spoiler:

Yeah, it's what I was referring to when I said "let's forget about Yanagi for the rest of the ep" Although, I did enjoy the amount of Saya, I'm still in shock from episode 14, that Yanagi left so early lol.....

lol you post here too magnatron? ^^

Spoiler:

I also agree, there was a lot more potential there with Yanagi but they only used him to tell that back story. But if Saya is gonna get involved with the love triangle(or is it a square?), it should make things interesting regardless.

[Newprimus]

I have a question about one of the earlier episodes. It's specifically in regards to the one that has a flashback to when Elis was back in the hospital and Hiroki was coming to visit her. Who's that white-ish haired little girl that Hiroki meets briefly before going up to Elis' room?

[mangatron]

Originally Posted by tun

lol you post here too magnatron? ^^

Spoiler:

I also agree, there was a lot more potential there with Yanagi but they only used him to tell that back story. But if Saya is gonna get involved with the love triangle(or is it a square?), it should make things interesting regardless.

Whoa whoa, is that you tun? The tun from L-R? You...you followed me here! lol

No seriously, glad to see you here. Now I'm not the only L-R'er hanging around

Originally Posted by Shinova

I have a question about one of the earlier episodes. It's specifically in regards to the one that has a flashback to when Elis was back in the hospital and Hiroki was coming to visit her. Who's that white-ish haired little girl that Hiroki meets briefly before going up to Elis' room?

Hey there, I'd appreciate it if you can remind me which ep that was, we're at ep 15 now and there's been a handful of flashbacks scattered around, and I'm not exactly the kind who has time to go through each ep

[Sailor Enlil]

Originally Posted by mangatron

Actually, I meant what activity she was doing, not what she is wearing

Because no matter what she wears, she looks good, I was just wondering how she managed

Actually, if you look to the website, "Naginata" also refers to the practice of fighting while using that weapon, just as Kendo is the practice of fighting with a Kendo sword.

[MonkeyBrains]

Originally Posted by Shinova

I have a question about one of the earlier episodes. It's specifically in regards to the one that has a flashback to when Elis was back in the hospital and Hiroki was coming to visit her. Who's that white-ish haired little girl that Hiroki meets briefly before going up to Elis' room?

It's in episode 2, shortly after the eye-catch, and based on the design of the hair, it kind of looks like Tomoko, which seems possible since Tomoko would have been in the hospital too, and of course she's the same age as Elis. Portents of something in a future episode, perhaps? I'm kind of hoping not, because I was hoping the characters wouldn't all be falling all over Hiroki, and that's why I liked Tomoko.

[mangatron]

Originally Posted by Sailor Enlil

Actually, if you look to the website, "Naginata" also refers to the practice of fighting while using that weapon, just as Kendo is the practice of fighting with a Kendo sword.

Ah I see, I'll admit I was too lazy to click the link and it did sound alot like a peice of clothing. /me slaps self silly

Originally Posted by MonkeyBrains

It's in episode 2, shortly after the eye-catch, and based on the design of the hair, it kind of looks like Tomoko, which seems possible since Tomoko would have been in the hospital too, and of course she's the same age as Elis. Portents of something in a future episode, perhaps? I'm kind of hoping not, because I was hoping the characters wouldn't all be falling all over Hiroki, and that's why I liked Tomoko.

hmm, maybe it just shows why they're good friends, and why Elise just seems to tell Tomoko everything...

You know, I just have to say something, everyone likes Hiroki. But you know, there's a very fine, if not transparent line between "everyone loves Hiroki". Now with most other series, we'd see all the girls after the main male lead by this time into a 26 ep series. But this is different. This series is different, and I just don't see all the girls going after him one way or another. I just don't. And that kinda gives me the added assurance of knowing so, and I continue to enjoy Canvas 2. Of course, the joys of it all is if I am wrong, at least I enjoyed it

Now, another thing I wanted to say, is that you do know how much of a fan I am of these kind of series, particularly Canvas 2, and because of that I notice alot of things, in episode 15, during the staff meeting, I noticed, a majority of these people have a much better design (or at least, a much more unique design) than Shoouta. Now it does strike me as odd .....

[AvatarST]

After the last episode, I'm kinda afraid this might turn into an "everyone loves Hiroki" anime, and I'd be rather sad if it does. I liked how it was only Elis and Kiri and the other characters had enough focus without fawning all over him; the perfect example is Tomoko. It's true that they like him, but as a friend, and I want it to stay that way.

But well, I'd watch the following episodes before making any conclusions. "Everyone loves Hiroki" wouldn't necessarily make it bad or anything...I just thought that the way it was, it was fun, and I'd hope it continues to be like this.

[Vexx]

argh.... that was one of my enjoyments as well .... I mean, Hagino toys with him and the other girls hold him dear for things he's done for them --- but yeah.... they're going to have write this really well if its going to turn into a free-for-all.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Vexx

argh.... that was one of my enjoyments as well .... I mean, Hagino toys with him and the other girls hold him dear for things he's done for them --- but yeah.... they're going to have write this really well if its going to turn into a free-for-all.

I don't think it will turn into a free for all. The principle always had a thing for Hiroki since the first ep. But I haven't seen anything form the other girls to think they all suddenly fall in love with hiroki. Things could change since we still have 9-11 more eps to go. Hopefully the writers will be smarter then that.

[Furudanuki]

If Canvas 2 starts down the "everyone wants Hiroki" path, I am going to be a very unhappy individual. Primarily because I don't want it to go there; I like the show just the way it is. But also because I have been recommending this series to people I know who do not care for that type of anime. "Yes, there are a lot of cute girls," I told them, "but they are not all in love with the male lead. It's really about a love triangle, not a harem. Give it a try!" Sigh. I hate it when something like this makes me look like an idiot - I can usually do that just fine without any help at all.

[MonkeyBrains]

Originally Posted by mangatron

You know, I just have to say something, everyone likes Hiroki. But you know, there's a very fine, if not transparent line between "everyone loves Hiroki". Now with most other series, we'd see all the girls after the main male lead by this time into a 26 ep series. But this is different. This series is different, and I just don't see all the girls going after him one way or another. I just don't. And that kinda gives me the added assurance of knowing so, and I continue to enjoy Canvas 2. Of course, the joys of it all is if I am wrong, at least I enjoyed it

Now, another thing I wanted to say, is that you do know how much of a fan I am of these kind of series, particularly Canvas 2, and because of that I notice alot of things, in episode 15, during the staff meeting, I noticed, a majority of these people have a much better design (or at least, a much more unique design) than Shoouta. Now it does strike me as odd .....

Maybe Shouta's still young, and he has to grow into a better design.

But anyway, those are my thoughts exactly on this show. There's no question, everyone likes Hiroki, either as a friend, or a mentor. But what's nice about this show is not everyone's falling all over him "in love", like, say in Da Capo, or, especially Shuffle!. Don't get me wrong, I liked those shows in their own way, but Canvas 2 has been nice because it kind of avoided those stereotypes, without drifting too much from some of the standards to the formula (the Sumire episode sticks out as a perfect example, where it wasn't even Hiroki that solved her problem). Regardless of what happens, though, after enjoying the first half the series, I'll stick through no matter what.

Although the pessimist in me sees potential that there might be a shift to everyone falling in love with Hiroki, I still don't quite see it happening after how they handled the first half of the series, particularly having recently rewatched the first half on a plane trip.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by mangatron

....You know, Saya's VA, Yuka, reminds me of Kikuko Inoue, the VA for Yayoi from Happy Lesson. Well, I do enjoy the calm, relaxed voice of these women, and it's no wonder, Kikuko has quite a track record...

Inokuchi Yuka 猪口 有佳 played Chochomaru in Petopeto-san and plays Anju in Karin. Two really effective younger characters. But this character is trending toward the Inoue Kikuko, older-woman end of the scale. Inokuchi-san herself is 27. Maybe she is finding a niche -- or even two -- with her soft, hoarse voice. On her home page, you can hear voice samples by clicking on her picture.

I'm not worried about losing the soul of this series. I think Saya's role is to stimulate Kiri's jealousy the way Yanagi stimulated Hiroki's.

[lgmcben]

Hi.

This maybe a little off topic.

Now that the PS2 version of the game is out, it also has 2 extra characters who didn't present in PC version.

Could anyone give me a link to the walkthrough please? I've done some searching but found nothing. T_T

Thank you.

[JokerD]

Since I don't watch the raws I can only comment on the Lunar releases.

Hiroki going "One-sama" in the ep 14 preview really made me laugh. Looks like the next episode features the school president. I wonder if she intenionally brought in Yagami to push Hiroki back into the path of the artist Looks like she's suceeding though.

On another note(color) I wonder when the art club president is gonna get her own episode.

[MonkeyBrains]

I kind of also think something similar with the superintendent/school president as well. That look out of the window at the end of episode 14 was suspect.

My guess is the club president (green haired girl) will be episode 17, from the pattern so far. For those that watch the raws, we'll find out in the next episode preview tomorrow...

[Furudanuki]

Well, I managed to resist temptation long enough to watch episode #14 unspoiled....

Spoiler for Episode 14 comments:

Yes, it indeed was a WTF?? episode. Yanagi's departure was surprisingly abrupt, although I can't say that I'm going to miss him even one little bit. There are several characters in this series that I want to see a lot more of, and Yanagi is not one of them. Besides, from a plot standpoint (as it currently stands in the anime) he has fulfilled his main purpose. If the writers intend to focus on the existing Elis x Hiroki x Kiri + (?) relationship it probably is best that Yanagi was not kept around too long. Flashbacks can illustrate past events just as well, plus they can always bring him back if his physical presence is required.

I was quite surprised that Elis did not tear into Yanagi after he confessed to stealing Hiroki's composition. She obviously had some idea of what was going on after she saw the picture of Kiri that Hagino brought to school. And she also did not seem to recall him with great fondness from before. I guess it is all intended as part of the plan to show that Elis is maturing emotionally, but her reaction almost seemed a bit too restrained to me.

Kiri's reaction was on target: stunned. We know how she feels about Hiroki, she obviously still cares about Yanagi as a friend at least, and now she is suddenly forced to completely re-evaluate everything that has happened between the three of them from high school onward. I frankly expect her to be acting a bit odd around Hiroki and Elis for a couple of episodes at least. Hopefully they won't drag it out too long, though.

Lastly, I have to concede that Hiroki is a better man that I am. I might have been able to forgive him for stealing my composition. But doing it right after I rejected Kiri because of him? I would have bludgeoned the SOB to death with an easel and urinated on the corpse.