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**monir** · 2007-01-16, 20:12

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ThoHell · 2007-01-16, 22:51

Pretty Good episode, but hey what's new about this series? IT'S ALL GOOD!

Spoiler for episode 14:

Dagger · 2007-01-16, 23:11

Wow, a surprisingly fantastic episode. I was impressed by how they handled the key line from L & the superb cliffhanger at the very end. Also, Hirano Aya is doing an increasingly good job of making me believe in her portrayal of Misa. The main advantage that the anime has over the manga at this point is that it makes the characters come alive (the seiyuu deserve many kudos for their contribution to this). Just look at Light's expression and listen to how he thinks the final lines of the episode.

Itachikun · 2007-01-17, 00:45

Great episode, facial expression ruled here. Totally giving this a 10, nice ending and such.

Misa's VA, Hirano Aya, has definitly done a good job here. Especially with the "Light~" . Funny stuff.
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noir senshi · 2007-01-17, 04:55

NSW, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you protecting us anime watchers from spoilers.

LonelyMachines · 2007-01-17, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoHell

Spoiler for episode 14:

Hey, she's Suzumiyu Haruhi. Who wouldn't?

Funny that I picture Rem as being female.

Shiroth · 2007-01-17, 14:20

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Yet again another great episode, it did well at keeping the same feeling that we were left with at the ending of episode 13. What made this episode for me was L's mention of Light being the first friend he ever had. Its not just a powerful scene, its emotional when you keep the idea that behind the scenes they're trying to 'kill' each other.

Anyway, i'm in the mood to watch the episode again - so i'll give more comments after that. :3

Kasiro · 2007-01-17, 15:23

This was excellent. I'm left with emotions beyond that which words can describe.

Deathkillz · 2007-01-17, 16:21

lol NSW is on a killing spree XD

and arrrrgg! what a cliffhanger of an ep O.o

Spoiler:

Vicke · 2007-01-17, 16:38

Great as always! I guess Misa really is screwing with Lights plans. I wonder if Rem really will kill L just like that, just as Light thought I also thinks it would be alittle too easy

Shiroth · 2007-01-17, 17:16

Okay, just rewatched the episode. Its probably my second favourite episodes upto now, with episode 07 being the first. Through out episode 14 you're left with a number of different emotions. Like i mentioned before - the scene that has L mentioning that Light is his 'first ever friend'. Some people would just look at this and not think much of it, but not only does it effect the story in so many ways, it shows that even behind the investigation to find out the true identity of Kira, that friendship can still be a part of it. Having the track called 'Rem' playing for the scene worked perfectly.

There was a new lil' scene added to the episode, it doesn't effect the story in anyway, though i'll place it in a spoiler tag.. knowing that i'll probably get flamed if i don't.

Spoiler:

Also, this part of the story is where i first started to like Rem more and more - and that ended up with Rem being my fav' character from the story. If you ask me, this is also where one of the best quotes from the story was said:

"If you kill this girl, i'll write your name in my death note and kill you."

Just.. brilliant!

Guido · 2007-01-17, 18:17

Again I agree with both Omni and Garten regarding the animation quality for this episode, that it went downhill more in the distance and far-off shots, but it's interesting to point out that in the close shots where the camera zooms in the characters the black lines drawn over the character's outlines were more prominent and thick.

While in the previous episode Misa earned my sympathy and won me over with her moeness in this one she just got in my nerves with her slightly squeaky and high-pitched voice and more so that she was nagging and pestering Light to date once a week and forbidding him to date other girls.

Making that aside, I'm certainly satisfied with the confrontations that took place within this episode because we learn that the new players will also get to this crazy ride until the last of consequences, and I'm never left astounded with the mind games that both main rivals throw at each other to measure their respective reactions and look through their intentions.

Spoiler:

1. Rem threatening to kill Light, if he dares to lay harm on Misa.
This was the most tense of all the confrontations for episode fourteen. Previously, Rem wouldn't care if Misa either lives or dies, but I GUESS she said that to dissasociate herself from any course of action Misa seeks out to play this dangerous game of cat & mouse.
I believe she grew up to care for Misa once she saw her (Misa) on that day when Jealous died saving her (Misa).

We can witness how Rem frightened the s**t out of Light, because the Shinigami was more than serious to end his game until the last of consequences, and she wouldn't mind to pay the price for breaking rules.

2. L confesses to Light that he regards him as his (L's) friend upon all the investigation team.
The teary-eyed soundtrack used on that particular drama moment would generally make the average viewer to come think of that L was sincere on that statement, but I disagree.

I think from L's tongue-in-cheek terminology to regard someone as a friend is an euphemism to acknowledging that person as his rival; a true, equal match to him.

L made it clear when he and Light came face to face the first time, that he has NO friends and uninterested to be closely related with people. L might have protegeés, acquaintances, people that keep him in contact with the outside world (Watari), however, L prefers not to be emotionally involved with people and instead keeps the relationship strictly professional.

Ryuk and others might have fallen to the literal meaning of L's words but not Light.

I GUESS it was a message intended only for Light to measure his reaction and for him to also understand that L's too going for his ride until the very end, thus elevating their working relationship to an all-out competitive rivalry.

It also serves to communicate to Light that from now on that he and L are walking the same steps, having the same thoughts, and always running on parallel to each other, therefore, it's no use to keep lies and secrets amongst themselves, because as the race to uncover Kira turns more strained and hazard Light must not compromise himself longer to arouse suspicion.

3. In spite that she hates Light, Rem concedes Light's request through Misa to kill L.
This conclusion is the climax for the whole episode; it is poignant, because Rem's going to do what Light wants from Misa, though she clearly recognizes that Light's a trickster and a deceiver beforehand, and yet she cares nothing to see the result of this cat-&-mouse chase.

It's obvious that Light was shaken from Rem's threat, and I GUESS he is pulling all this drama stunt act in a manner so as to have Lisa serving under a life-threatening position involving L. That way he kills two birds with the same stone and clears himself of anymore worries.

What was so pricelessly funny about this drama scene was that Light's eyes were wavering and trembling, as if he was about to cry or more like he being on mercy gratitude to Rem accepting his request.

Tommy Feb6 · 2007-01-17, 18:20

I'll put this in a spoiler tag but...

Spoiler:

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?!

Ardea · 2007-01-17, 23:00

I really loved the episode, especially

Spoiler:

I feel like I should have a stomach ache watching L eat so much sugar-saturated food... but it amuses me to watch him eat. Yay box of doughnuts. XD.

Shiroth · 2007-01-17, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ardea

I feel like I should have a stomach ache watching L eat so much sugar-saturated food... but it amuses me to watch him eat. Yay box of doughnuts. XD.

I'm sure i can get away with saying a part of that was fanservice..

Pakxenon · 2007-01-18, 03:46

Bah at animation quality. That goes from the potential 9 to a 7. Down one more for leaving out some manga stuff (I read as I watch lol...) (and how Misa met Light at the end of the episode... is spiced up but I didn't like the "playful nature"). I would have been impressed if not for the off-shore productions.

Of course, the best moment was when L told Light that he considers him a FRIEND. Knowing the Light up to now, I don't think this piece of information will be given much afterthought.

Mgz · 2007-01-18, 08:42

this eps is amazing... stale mate checku!!! damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Light is such a cold heart guy >< , misa smiley can melt ANY man heart x.x

chibi_star1 · 2007-01-18, 10:51

Spoiler for episode 14:

this has thus far been a wonderful anime. it rapidly skyrocketed up to my top five favorite anime of all time. with so many twists and turns who knows how it will end. but i really wish that it ends with everyone being friends. that would be awesome, however, unlikely.

alkoholio · 2007-01-18, 14:08

What I wonder about is, if Rem would really die if he killed L. Contrary to some people`s thoughts I believe Rem doesn`t die killing L, since he wouldn`t directly protect Misa`s life with this course of action, L doesn`t even know about her yet and hasn`t nailed her down so far.
If there is another rule instead of "In case a death god protects the human he has fallen for by killing the murderer to prevent that deed, he dies" correct me if I`m wrong. Rem also states that L is just a random human for him, if the translation isn`t off. ps. I actually also picture Rem as female, at least to some degree ^^

Lumir · 2007-01-18, 15:06

The twists just never end in this anime.

First L tells Ligh he is his first friend, (shocking), light was thrown off guard completly. I think this bit of character developement is going to play a major role. Those two being friends, can light really kill his own rival? hmm intresting.

Lol and this misa chick, totally infatuated with light... guess it really dosent matter though, but DAMB man! Light has a friggin model for a girlfriend, and he treats it like nothing... sigh... hes really serious about this whole game.

And yes i call it a game because thats what it seems like more then anything else, on one end we have light and on the other L. Such a great rivalry!

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2007-01-16, 20:12	Link #1
monir cho~ kakkoii Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 3rd Planet	Death Note Episode 14 Discussion / Poll Welcome to the discussion thread for Death Note, Episode 14! Thread Guidelines Keep spoilers from the Manga out of the anime thread. You may not even post manga spoilers in spoiler tags! No telling or asking for RAWs. If you need to in reply to someone with a reference to the Manga, either PM them or post in the Manga thread. Please be considerate of anime only watchers, too many manga spoilers are being posted, so please, no more! Discuss your expectations of the episode if not aired. Be polite to your fellow forum members. Try to keep the discussion on topic and future episode spoilers out of the thread whenever possible. Spoiler Tag Usage Using Spoiler Tags is easy. Using this... [spoiler=title]Don't forget to use the spoiler title[/spoiler] ....will get you this... Spoiler for title: Don't forget to use the spoiler title and drink lots of milk! Please remember, no manga spoilers are allowed in this thread!

2007-01-16, 22:51	Link #2
ThoHell Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Pretty Good episode, but hey what's new about this series? IT'S ALL GOOD! Spoiler for episode 14: Light can findly have a girlfriend, and one that's pretty and famous too, but he just doesn't seem to be to interested in girls... LOL, that was great, Light threatens to kill Misa, then Rem threatens to kill Light. Some great checking going on! Rem is alot different from Ryuk. He's smart, straight forward, daring and unpredictable, for sure a good addition to the series! Rem seems to be a guardian over Misa or just falling for her, BUT COMMON WHO CAN'T? Can't believe he agreed to kill L, I have not idea how this is going to play through. Good episode, lots of twist and shocking events happened to Light. Can't wait to see how all this plays through, epecially ending it with a cliff hanger that's pretty shocking! Last edited by ThoHell; 2007-01-16 at 23:51.

2007-01-17, 00:45	Link #4
Itachikun Animesuki's Janitor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere in Shigeru Miyamoto's head Age: 37	Great episode, facial expression ruled here. Totally giving this a 10, nice ending and such. Misa's VA, Hirano Aya, has definitly done a good job here. Especially with the "Light~" . Funny stuff. ________ GREEN CRACK PICTURES Last edited by Itachikun; 2011-02-15 at 08:52.

2007-01-17, 14:20	Link #7
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Deleted by Mod Yet again another great episode, it did well at keeping the same feeling that we were left with at the ending of episode 13. What made this episode for me was L's mention of Light being the first friend he ever had. Its not just a powerful scene, its emotional when you keep the idea that behind the scenes they're trying to 'kill' each other. Anyway, i'm in the mood to watch the episode again - so i'll give more comments after that. :3 __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter Last edited by NoSanninWa; 2007-01-17 at 23:08. Reason: Y'know, you pretty much give away what you're telling people not to give away!

2007-01-16, 23:11	Link #3
Dagger Nitro+ fan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hyogo	Wow, a surprisingly fantastic episode. I was impressed by how they handled the key line from L & the superb cliffhanger at the very end. Also, Hirano Aya is doing an increasingly good job of making me believe in her portrayal of Misa. The main advantage that the anime has over the manga at this point is that it makes the characters come alive (the seiyuu deserve many kudos for their contribution to this). Just look at Light's expression and listen to how he thinks the final lines of the episode.

2007-01-17, 04:55	Link #5
noir senshi Escapist Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Australia	NSW, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you protecting us anime watchers from spoilers.

2007-01-17, 15:23	Link #8
Kasiro Member Join Date: May 2006	This was excellent. I'm left with emotions beyond that which words can describe.

2007-01-17, 16:21	Link #9
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	lol NSW is on a killing spree XD and arrrrgg! what a cliffhanger of an ep O.o Spoiler: okey it really looks bad for L now...rem is willing to sacrafice herself to make misa happy...and light is showing up to be a real manipulative bastard >.< but thats a pretty smart move from light...seen as he will get killed if he kills misa he just uses misa to get rem to kill of L and also herself...that is totally evil but brilliant in a way...couldnt have come up with a better plan if it where me... and all through it ryuk was laughing his head off...methinks hes the only one that gonna be leaving this battle with the last laugh __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2007-01-17, 16:38	Link #10
Vicke Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Svea Age: 40	Great as always! I guess Misa really is screwing with Lights plans. I wonder if Rem really will kill L just like that, just as Light thought I also thinks it would be alittle too easy

2007-01-17, 17:16	Link #11
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Okay, just rewatched the episode. Its probably my second favourite episodes upto now, with episode 07 being the first. Through out episode 14 you're left with a number of different emotions. Like i mentioned before - the scene that has L mentioning that Light is his 'first ever friend'. Some people would just look at this and not think much of it, but not only does it effect the story in so many ways, it shows that even behind the investigation to find out the true identity of Kira, that friendship can still be a part of it. Having the track called 'Rem' playing for the scene worked perfectly. There was a new lil' scene added to the episode, it doesn't effect the story in anyway, though i'll place it in a spoiler tag.. knowing that i'll probably get flamed if i don't. Spoiler: Was having Misa jumping on Light. In the manga she randomly appears in the middle of the street. Also, this part of the story is where i first started to like Rem more and more - and that ended up with Rem being my fav' character from the story. If you ask me, this is also where one of the best quotes from the story was said: "If you kill this girl, i'll write your name in my death note and kill you." Just.. brilliant! __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2007-01-17, 18:17	Link #12
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Friend Again I agree with both Omni and Garten regarding the animation quality for this episode, that it went downhill more in the distance and far-off shots, but it's interesting to point out that in the close shots where the camera zooms in the characters the black lines drawn over the character's outlines were more prominent and thick. While in the previous episode Misa earned my sympathy and won me over with her moeness in this one she just got in my nerves with her slightly squeaky and high-pitched voice and more so that she was nagging and pestering Light to date once a week and forbidding him to date other girls. Making that aside, I'm certainly satisfied with the confrontations that took place within this episode because we learn that the new players will also get to this crazy ride until the last of consequences, and I'm never left astounded with the mind games that both main rivals throw at each other to measure their respective reactions and look through their intentions. Spoiler: 1. Rem threatening to kill Light, if he dares to lay harm on Misa. This was the most tense of all the confrontations for episode fourteen. Previously, Rem wouldn't care if Misa either lives or dies, but I GUESS she said that to dissasociate herself from any course of action Misa seeks out to play this dangerous game of cat & mouse. I believe she grew up to care for Misa once she saw her (Misa) on that day when Jealous died saving her (Misa). We can witness how Rem frightened the s**t out of Light, because the Shinigami was more than serious to end his game until the last of consequences, and she wouldn't mind to pay the price for breaking rules. 2. L confesses to Light that he regards him as his (L's) friend upon all the investigation team. The teary-eyed soundtrack used on that particular drama moment would generally make the average viewer to come think of that L was sincere on that statement, but I disagree. I think from L's tongue-in-cheek terminology to regard someone as a friend is an euphemism to acknowledging that person as his rival; a true, equal match to him. L made it clear when he and Light came face to face the first time, that he has NO friends and uninterested to be closely related with people. L might have protegeés, acquaintances, people that keep him in contact with the outside world (Watari), however, L prefers not to be emotionally involved with people and instead keeps the relationship strictly professional. Ryuk and others might have fallen to the literal meaning of L's words but not Light. I GUESS it was a message intended only for Light to measure his reaction and for him to also understand that L's too going for his ride until the very end, thus elevating their working relationship to an all-out competitive rivalry. It also serves to communicate to Light that from now on that he and L are walking the same steps, having the same thoughts, and always running on parallel to each other, therefore, it's no use to keep lies and secrets amongst themselves, because as the race to uncover Kira turns more strained and hazard Light must not compromise himself longer to arouse suspicion. 3. In spite that she hates Light, Rem concedes Light's request through Misa to kill L. This conclusion is the climax for the whole episode; it is poignant, because Rem's going to do what Light wants from Misa, though she clearly recognizes that Light's a trickster and a deceiver beforehand, and yet she cares nothing to see the result of this cat-&-mouse chase. It's obvious that Light was shaken from Rem's threat, and I GUESS he is pulling all this drama stunt act in a manner so as to have Lisa serving under a life-threatening position involving L. That way he kills two birds with the same stone and clears himself of anymore worries. What was so pricelessly funny about this drama scene was that Light's eyes were wavering and trembling, as if he was about to cry or more like he being on mercy gratitude to Rem accepting his request.

2007-01-17, 18:20	Link #13
Tommy Feb6 Lonely in Gorgeous, Yeah~ Join Date: Dec 2005	I'll put this in a spoiler tag but... Spoiler: Light is the protagonist WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?!

2007-01-17, 23:00	Link #14
Ardea Member Join Date: Jan 2007	I really loved the episode, especially Spoiler: when L states that Light is his first friend. It seems like the only time Light was really thrown off-guard. Perhaps he felt just a little bit the same way. And when Misa threatens to kill any other girl Light would date instead of her. XD. I feel like I should have a stomach ache watching L eat so much sugar-saturated food... but it amuses me to watch him eat. Yay box of doughnuts. XD.

2007-01-18, 03:46	Link #16
Pakxenon popcorn Join Date: Jan 2006	Bah at animation quality. That goes from the potential 9 to a 7. Down one more for leaving out some manga stuff (I read as I watch lol...) (and how Misa met Light at the end of the episode... is spiced up but I didn't like the "playful nature"). I would have been impressed if not for the off-shore productions. Of course, the best moment was when L told Light that he considers him a FRIEND. Knowing the Light up to now, I don't think this piece of information will be given much afterthought.

2007-01-18, 08:42	Link #17
Mgz Madlax fanboyz Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 38	this eps is amazing... stale mate checku!!! damned if you do, damned if you don't. Light is such a cold heart guy >< , misa smiley can melt ANY man heart x.x

2007-01-18, 10:51	Link #18
chibi_star1 will you dance with me? Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Age: 37	Spoiler for episode 14: i'm really not liking light right about now. before this episode i thought he was so cool, but now i just don't know anymore. it's also kinda sad how he is L's first friend, it makes me feel really sorry for the guy and it makes me wanna give him a hug! as for misa, i feel sorry for her as well cuz she will never have her love returned, that's what it seems like right now anyway. this has thus far been a wonderful anime. it rapidly skyrocketed up to my top five favorite anime of all time. with so many twists and turns who knows how it will end. but i really wish that it ends with everyone being friends. that would be awesome, however, unlikely.

2007-01-18, 14:08	Link #19
alkoholio Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ludwigsburg	What I wonder about is, if Rem would really die if he killed L. Contrary to some people`s thoughts I believe Rem doesn`t die killing L, since he wouldn`t directly protect Misa`s life with this course of action, L doesn`t even know about her yet and hasn`t nailed her down so far. If there is another rule instead of "In case a death god protects the human he has fallen for by killing the murderer to prevent that deed, he dies" correct me if I`m wrong. Rem also states that L is just a random human for him, if the translation isn`t off. ps. I actually also picture Rem as female, at least to some degree ^^

2007-01-18, 15:06	Link #20
Lumir Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 37	The twists just never end in this anime. First L tells Ligh he is his first friend, (shocking), light was thrown off guard completly. I think this bit of character developement is going to play a major role. Those two being friends, can light really kill his own rival? hmm intresting. Lol and this misa chick, totally infatuated with light... guess it really dosent matter though, but DAMB man! Light has a friggin model for a girlfriend, and he treats it like nothing... sigh... hes really serious about this whole game. And yes i call it a game because thats what it seems like more then anything else, on one end we have light and on the other L. Such a great rivalry! __________________