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Rising Dragon · 2013-12-10, 13:26

Then... how come other information states that Setsuna fought alongside Billy and Mena's son during the Innovator War?

kakakka · 2013-12-10, 13:30

That was in the novel epilogue.

SonicSP · 2013-12-10, 16:28

Setsuna was never stated to fight in the Innovator War, the war he fought was something else that was undescribed at the movie novel's epilogue. Based on what 00N says, he came back at a time where civilization is already what it was in the Epilogue, and given he's only coming to see Marina after all this years, it is saying that he came back for the first time only after 50 years and his silver transformation.

Given that humanity seems to be at complete peace with itself by the Epilogue's time with no traditional mobile weapons to speak off, I speculate the war was with another alien race.

Ah, reminiscing the good old days.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-12-11, 21:44

This is a bit of info I seemed to have forgotten.

There was an extra war after/before the Innovator War? And Setsuna fought in it?

SonicSP · 2013-12-12, 18:25

Hey look, it's Nos!

Well, I reckon given what 00N says to be Setsuna's returning time, it's long after the Innovator War and probably around the era of the Epilogue. And that was an era of peace on Earth with nobody having mobile weapons, where they have become relics and their scraps are historical collection items.

So......I'd say say likely against a hostile alien civilization, especially given that humanly is sending voyager ships and all. Running into a hostile civilization doesn't sound impossible.

kakakka · 2013-12-13, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Then... how come other information states that Setsuna fought alongside Billy and Mena's son during the Innovator War?

Bumping.

Another interpretation I hear is that Shirin's and Billy's children (from Klaus and Mehna) fought alongside CB during the war, when Setsuna was away.

...

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-12-13, 10:09

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Originally Posted by SonicSP

So......I'd say say likely against a hostile alien civilization, especially given that humanly is sending voyager ships and all. Running into a hostile civilization doesn't sound impossible.

They really need to make animated continuation of 00 with the next generation and more space-exploring. Maybe a new series called Gundam Trek. "To boldly go where no Gundam has gone before!"

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GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-12-13, 18:42

Man...I wish they would have taken time to explain what exactly was going on in the epilogue. What were those green trails of light going from the flower, all the way too Earth? So strange...they probably just wanted to mess with us. Put a bunch of crazy shit in inthe last few minutes with no explanation.

It's like they said "HEY LOOK AT ALL THIS CRAZY STUFF WE PUT IN. GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT LOL BYE".

SonicSP · 2013-12-13, 19:52

If its green, it's likely GN Particles. That's usually how it goes.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-12-13, 21:25

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Originally Posted by SonicSP

If its green, it's likely GN Particles. That's usually how it goes.

My theory from long ago was that the ESF was showering the Earth with GN Particles to Innovate all of humanity.

SonicSP · 2013-12-13, 22:19

If they were Trans-Amed particles, then it would work.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-12-14, 00:51

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Originally Posted by SonicSP

If they were Trans-Amed particles, then it would work.

No way to tell if they were sadly.

LoweGear · 2013-12-14, 06:08

It's such a small detail in the end though that it doesn't really matter what they are. GN Particles suffice as an explanation for them.

Infinite Zenith · 2013-12-14, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

They really need to make animated continuation of 00 with the next generation and more space-exploring. Maybe a new series called Gundam Trek. "To boldly go where no Gundam has gone before!"

.

If they ever make that, you can bet that I'm definitely going to watch it

Mad Pierrot · 2014-01-16, 19:15

Is there a post that has all the extra info from the movie's novel?

SonicSP · 2014-01-16, 22:03

Not really. There's not much new information anyways I think, at least from whatever translations we were able to get. I'm not sure whether Good Haro worked on the movie novel or not,

I'm always curious on whether Harute's GN Drive got destroyed though. If it was, then it means Celestial Being only have one Original Drive left in their possession. Would be hard to have run with only one Drive, especially given all the times they need to use Large Condensers for most of their machines. Their resources were stretched to the brink as it was and they focused most of what's left on Qan[T]. They'll definitely going to need to change their operational philosophy, at the very least.

Rising Dragon · 2014-01-16, 22:08

At the very least, they'll have time to make more. Pretty much all of Earth's GN-weaponry were thrown at the ELS conflict and their combined forces were pretty decimated in the final battle, IIRC. It'll take time to build that back up.

That said, before then they were only using Gundams that had Large Condensers for power sources for some time now, like the Exia and the Dynames. Those should be enough to deal with non-GN weaponry.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2014-01-17, 16:45

Does anyone remember that picture someone made showing all the aliens the ELS had found? Anyone have that on hand? Just wanted to ask first before I went searching through multiple pages.

Rising Dragon · 2014-01-17, 17:46

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Does anyone remember that picture someone made showing all the aliens the ELS had found? Anyone have that on hand? Just wanted to ask first before I went searching through multiple pages.

That was in the Aliens in the Gundam Franchise thread, and it was one of my posts at that. Not sure if the images survive, though.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2014-01-17, 18:16

Some are missing, but good to see it again. Thanks for the help.

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Then... how come other information states that Setsuna fought alongside Billy and Mena's son during the Innovator War? __________________

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SonicSP Sonic!I AM SONIC!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hot Non-Winter Place Age: 33	Setsuna was never stated to fight in the Innovator War, the war he fought was something else that was undescribed at the movie novel's epilogue. Based on what 00N says, he came back at a time where civilization is already what it was in the Epilogue, and given he's only coming to see Marina after all this years, it is saying that he came back for the first time only after 50 years and his silver transformation. Given that humanity seems to be at complete peace with itself by the Epilogue's time with no traditional mobile weapons to speak off, I speculate the war was with another alien race. Ah, reminiscing the good old days. __________________ Last edited by SonicSP; 2013-12-10 at 20:50.

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SonicSP Sonic!I AM SONIC!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hot Non-Winter Place Age: 33	Hey look, it's Nos! Well, I reckon given what 00N says to be Setsuna's returning time, it's long after the Innovator War and probably around the era of the Epilogue. And that was an era of peace on Earth with nobody having mobile weapons, where they have become relics and their scraps are historical collection items. So......I'd say say likely against a hostile alien civilization, especially given that humanly is sending voyager ships and all. Running into a hostile civilization doesn't sound impossible. __________________

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SonicSP Sonic!I AM SONIC!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hot Non-Winter Place Age: 33	If its green, it's likely GN Particles. That's usually how it goes. __________________

2013-12-10, 13:30	Link #1302
kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	That was in the novel epilogue.

2013-12-11, 21:44	Link #1304
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	This is a bit of info I seemed to have forgotten. There was an extra war after/before the Innovator War? And Setsuna fought in it?

2013-12-13, 18:42	Link #1308
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Man...I wish they would have taken time to explain what exactly was going on in the epilogue. What were those green trails of light going from the flower, all the way too Earth? So strange...they probably just wanted to mess with us. Put a bunch of crazy shit in inthe last few minutes with no explanation. It's like they said "HEY LOOK AT ALL THIS CRAZY STUFF WE PUT IN. GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT LOL BYE".

2013-12-13, 22:19	Link #1311
SonicSP Sonic!I AM SONIC!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hot Non-Winter Place Age: 33	If they were Trans-Amed particles, then it would work. __________________

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LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	It's such a small detail in the end though that it doesn't really matter what they are. GN Particles suffice as an explanation for them. __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

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Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Is there a post that has all the extra info from the movie's novel?

2014-01-16, 22:03	Link #1316
SonicSP Sonic!I AM SONIC!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hot Non-Winter Place Age: 33	Not really. There's not much new information anyways I think, at least from whatever translations we were able to get. I'm not sure whether Good Haro worked on the movie novel or not, I'm always curious on whether Harute's GN Drive got destroyed though. If it was, then it means Celestial Being only have one Original Drive left in their possession. Would be hard to have run with only one Drive, especially given all the times they need to use Large Condensers for most of their machines. Their resources were stretched to the brink as it was and they focused most of what's left on Qan[T]. They'll definitely going to need to change their operational philosophy, at the very least. __________________

2014-01-16, 22:08	Link #1317
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	At the very least, they'll have time to make more. Pretty much all of Earth's GN-weaponry were thrown at the ELS conflict and their combined forces were pretty decimated in the final battle, IIRC. It'll take time to build that back up. That said, before then they were only using Gundams that had Large Condensers for power sources for some time now, like the Exia and the Dynames. Those should be enough to deal with non-GN weaponry. __________________

2014-01-17, 16:45	Link #1318
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Does anyone remember that picture someone made showing all the aliens the ELS had found? Anyone have that on hand? Just wanted to ask first before I went searching through multiple pages.

2014-01-17, 18:16	Link #1320
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Some are missing, but good to see it again. Thanks for the help.