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Kanon · 2013-05-15, 15:23

The flashback is finally over. Overall, it wasn't quite as interesting and exciting as I had hoped it would. No major revelations. It was predictable that Juhabach was involved in Masaki's death somehow. This gives Ichigo a stronger motive to defeat him.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-15, 15:35

I laughed with Giddy's reaction.

Also the flashback had nothing to do with the current arc. It was 7 chapters until Kubo realized he messed up and "Oh yeah... the Vandereich's magic... weakened... the already weakened Masaki.... You liked the boobs from the last chapter?"

dragonmeister · 2013-05-15, 16:16

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Originally Posted by itachi-san314

^hmm. what country has giant cylinders all over it? and a menos forest? ... yea i think it's chile

Those are Aizen... compensating... - seriously, what kind of mad architect (apart from one willing to work for Aizen, knowing that he'd probably get killed) would put so many random pillars around, without supporting anything
The countries are as a very rough basis, rather than the full country, although I'd love it if any country decided to do away with common sense and create a subterranean forest and loads of random pillars, just for kicks

Alchemist007 · 2013-05-15, 16:17

So Uryuu is probably going to turn on Juha at some point and Juha probably knows it (because he's basically Aizen mkII, but is he better than the original?). I don't think the story with Masaki is quite over yet, but I'm trying not to be expectant.

sayde · 2013-05-15, 16:17

So now that the flashbacks are over we finally have some answers to a few mysteries. And its at this transitional junction of the plot where I suddenly find myself disinterested for the time being. So now I'm wondering: Aizen, WHY U STILL LOCKED UP!? When u gonna return to make my life interesting again!

Oh yeah. I almost forgot. Of course Ishida isn't really going to side with the king of the Quincy's. We're talking about the same guy who wasn't even upset at the shinigami exterminating the Quincy's since he acknowledged that the Quincy's were in the wrong for upsetting the balance. So I don't see him suddenly having major feelings of allegiance now. Uryuu's pride of the Quincy is a sense of justice that doesn't seem to make any exceptions to those who are blood related.

GDiddy · 2013-05-15, 16:20

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Originally Posted by dragonmeister

Those are Aizen... compensating... - seriously, what kind of mad architect (apart from one willing to work for Aizen, knowing that he'd probably get killed) would put so many random pillars around, without supporting anything
The countries are as a very rough basis, rather than the full country, although I'd love it if any country decided to do away with common sense and create a subterranean forest and loads of random pillars, just for kicks

Maybe it's supposed to be Germany? Considering that the Shitritters are German?

Helius · 2013-05-15, 16:29

So Bach is Dracula...should've known.

Do we know if the Hogyoku is still in Aizen? Maybe they needed him for a Quincy-Hogyoku gattai to take down the Spirit King?

sayde · 2013-05-15, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Helius

So Bach is Dracula...should've known.

Do we know if the Hogyoku is still in Aizen? Maybe they needed him for a Quincy-Hogyoku gattai to take down the Spirit King?

Yes. The hogyoku is still in Aizen. That's what makes him immortal. And with the virtually infinite number of possibilities that orb represents, its easy to see why Yhwach deemed him one of the war potentials.

saravis · 2013-05-15, 19:01

I've gotten used to thinking of Bleach as a campy story, one to be enjoyed regardless of its level of intelligence. So with that said, I enjoyed this latest chapter, nothing surprising, but for Kubo that can be a good thing. I'm just waiting to see how Aizen plays into all this. "Aizen is the father" jokes aside, maybe the Quincies were the first experiment to transcend beyond Hollows and Shinigami. Bach did seem interested in Aizen, so they might have something going on between them.

Chiaki_chan · 2013-05-16, 01:01

I understand why all Quincys Bach called "son"
and this revelation Ichigo has another reason to kill Juha Bach

and Ishida ... traitor x_x I think Ishida know why her mother died, and if so why go along with Juha Bach

itachi-san314 · 2013-05-16, 05:30

Spoiler for didnt notice this at first, glad someone else did:

SoloPanda · 2013-05-16, 08:34

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Originally Posted by itachi-san314

Spoiler for didnt notice this at first, glad someone else did:

Although she seems somewhat normal, Normal people can't see or touch the badge cause it's dangerous so she could probably see his dad as well.... unless i missed something somewhere it's early in the morning.

Tempest35 · 2013-05-16, 08:41

^ Then she would have reacted when Isshin strode into the room to collect his son a few chapters ago. She was looking around but didn't see anyone there, at least that's how I remembered it...

GDiddy · 2013-05-16, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Chiaki_chan

I understand why all Quincys Bach called "son"
and this revelation Ichigo has another reason to kill Juha Bach

and Ishida ... traitor x_x I think Ishida know why her mother died, and if so why go along with Juha Bach

I'm guessing he's doing it for revenge...though I have a feeling that Urahara is probably involved somehow.

This is how much the FB arc impacted me: I totally forgot that Ichigo's boss even existed.

Maybe Ikumi or whatever her name was and Isshin can hook up in the future...

saravis · 2013-05-16, 20:00

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Originally Posted by GDiddy

This is how much the FB arc impacted me: I totally forgot that Ichigo's boss even existed.

Maybe Ikumi or whatever her name was and Isshin can hook up in the future...

Has she even had any impact on the story? When she was introduced I was under the impression that there was something to her and she would play some role in the story, but all she's been is a set of tits that pops up every now and then.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-16, 20:42

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Originally Posted by saravis

Has she even had any impact on the story? When she was introduced I was under the impression that there was something to her and she would play some role in the story, but all she's been is a set of tits that pops up every now and then.

I guess most human characters don't have a big role in the story. I mean Keigo, Tatsuki and the others ended up being minor despite the notable screentime.

bonsobon · 2013-05-17, 05:21

Surely this chapter puts to bed the theories of Masaki somehow still being alive? And of Grand Fisher playing no part in her death?

itachi-san314 · 2013-05-17, 11:27

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Originally Posted by bonsobon

Surely this chapter puts to bed the theories of Masaki somehow still being alive? And of Grand Fisher playing no part in her death?

pretty much. I'm glad grand fisher was part of her death because that would have been a sloppy retcon if he wasn't. i did however want her to still be alive, but the chances of that now are slim to nill unless bach somehow reincarnated her as part of the shitritters

Lendial · 2013-05-17, 11:29

So was bach the first quincy and all quinces were descended from him even though each mating would dilute the quincy blood by once half. Or maybe he can self produce like some sort of sea slug?

Helius · 2013-05-17, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Lendial

So was bach the first quincy and all quinces were descended from him even though each mating would dilute the quincy blood by once half. Or maybe he can self produce like some sort of sea slug?

You're not thinking "close" enough.

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	The flashback is finally over. Overall, it wasn't quite as interesting and exciting as I had hoped it would. No major revelations. It was predictable that Juhabach was involved in Masaki's death somehow. This gives Ichigo a stronger motive to defeat him. __________________

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Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	So Uryuu is probably going to turn on Juha at some point and Juha probably knows it (because he's basically Aizen mkII, but is he better than the original?). I don't think the story with Masaki is quite over yet, but I'm trying not to be expectant. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

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sayde Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	So now that the flashbacks are over we finally have some answers to a few mysteries. And its at this transitional junction of the plot where I suddenly find myself disinterested for the time being. So now I'm wondering: Aizen, WHY U STILL LOCKED UP!? When u gonna return to make my life interesting again! Oh yeah. I almost forgot. Of course Ishida isn't really going to side with the king of the Quincy's. We're talking about the same guy who wasn't even upset at the shinigami exterminating the Quincy's since he acknowledged that the Quincy's were in the wrong for upsetting the balance. So I don't see him suddenly having major feelings of allegiance now. Uryuu's pride of the Quincy is a sense of justice that doesn't seem to make any exceptions to those who are blood related. Last edited by sayde; 2013-05-15 at 16:30.

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saravis Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	I've gotten used to thinking of Bleach as a campy story, one to be enjoyed regardless of its level of intelligence. So with that said, I enjoyed this latest chapter, nothing surprising, but for Kubo that can be a good thing. I'm just waiting to see how Aizen plays into all this. "Aizen is the father" jokes aside, maybe the Quincies were the first experiment to transcend beyond Hollows and Shinigami. Bach did seem interested in Aizen, so they might have something going on between them. __________________ So people understand that I do not take these discussions seriously, its all good fun.

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Chiaki_chan Kubo GO TO HELL Join Date: May 2012 Location: with Maki-sama Age: 31	I understand why all Quincys Bach called "son" and this revelation Ichigo has another reason to kill Juha Bach and Ishida ... traitor x_x I think Ishida know why her mother died, and if so why go along with Juha Bach __________________

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Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	I laughed with Giddy's reaction. Also the flashback had nothing to do with the current arc. It was 7 chapters until Kubo realized he messed up and "Oh yeah... the Vandereich's magic... weakened... the already weakened Masaki.... You liked the boobs from the last chapter?"

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Helius Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: stuck between galaxies	So Bach is Dracula...should've known. Do we know if the Hogyoku is still in Aizen? Maybe they needed him for a Quincy-Hogyoku gattai to take down the Spirit King?

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itachi-san314 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Spoiler for didnt notice this at first, glad someone else did: Last edited by Hunter; 2013-05-17 at 12:25.

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Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	^ Then she would have reacted when Isshin strode into the room to collect his son a few chapters ago. She was looking around but didn't see anyone there, at least that's how I remembered it... __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

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bonsobon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	Surely this chapter puts to bed the theories of Masaki somehow still being alive? And of Grand Fisher playing no part in her death?

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Lendial Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	So was bach the first quincy and all quinces were descended from him even though each mating would dilute the quincy blood by once half. Or maybe he can self produce like some sort of sea slug? __________________