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I understand the licensing restrictions, but in a sense they're not very practical. You want me to tie myself down to a single computer for the software? It's truly an effort to make the software seem more like a physical product. It'd be too easy to replicate software infinitely, after all - with these restrictions in place, you're forced to buy more. Works for the manufacturer. I don't mind that, but I mind the idea that computer = motherboard. I work with five different computers at my job, all with different strengths and weaknesses. I typically move from system to system in the work flow process. I am one person using these five systems, frequently one at a time, but should I still have to buy multiple licenses if the work flow involving one program requires multiple systems? Some of the software we use has a sort of protection built in: if it detects another computer on our network running that copy, it won't start up. That's fair - technically I should only be using one copy actively at a time, on one computer. If I want to increase my productivity, I should buy two tools (software/licenses). But to say that I'm limited to using this software on a single computer doesn't sit well with me. It may work well in the home setting, but even then I think it's a bit counter productive. If I'm changing my motherboard, there's a good chance that I'm just upgrading my system. It's the same computer, just upgraded. What's the deal? I understand why they do it, though. If not the motherboard, what else could you use as an anchor point? What other copy/license protection schemes could be used effectively? The software makers do need to protect themselves in some manner, but the optimal scenario is one where they don't need to shaft the legit users too badly to do so. Quote:
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The fable is pretty well known, but I'll repeat it in case it's not too well-known outside of America (or if it isn't taught to the younger generations): it describes a boy who would run to the village, crying out that there was a wolf proving around. The townfolk would arm themselves and go out in search of the dangerous wolf, wanting to kill it. The boy would laugh - there was no wolf, it was just a trick. He did this two more times until the villagers started to ignore him. One day, there really was a wolf. The boy ran, crying that there was a wolf, but the villagers ignored him. They felt that he was telling lies for his own amusement once again. The wolf ate the boy. In Linux and Mac OS X, the security prompts generally only come up when you're about to do something potentially dangerous. Accessing the system control panel or installing some new software (modifying your system in some way) - these are actions that really should have some sort of security measure. Having a million security prompts about moving files that are in the same form as asking for permission to install something is a boy-who-cried-wolf scenario: they all look the same, and the vast majority of the time they're not worthy of attention. Click through it. It's no longer providing useful information now - it's just an annoying obstacle to getting a task done. As I've mentioned, in my brief usage of Vista I didn't find the UAC prompts to be nearly as intrusive as others have mentioned. My usage was basically just downloading and installing Opera, looking at AnimeSuki, running a few updates, and viewing the control panel. It's not a terrible idea, and if they refine it a bit more it could work nicely. Good luck with your building! I'm writing a paper so I can't provide on-the-spot support, but if you hit a spot you're unsure about feel free to post here and we'll help you out. I don't expect you'll have issues though, so have fun building, and we're looking forward to seeing your first post from your new system!
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2007-12-08, 01:42 | Link #143 |
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You'll be fine, take your time, be neat and tidy, don't get frustrated (walk away and take a break) and KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS. I'll be arond here for the next 3-4 hours before I go to dinner so I'll do my best to give you a hand jst be prepared to post pics describing your situation.
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2007-12-08, 01:57 | Link #144 | |
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@tiachopvutru - Good luck! Remember to make sure your working area is brightly lit and if something starts to go wrong and you start getting annoyed and start sweating, take a break and wipe your face. Saltly sweat dripping on electronic components is not good for it and it also is a really unpleasant sight
Booo I get pre-occupied for a few days with my new toy and I miss this marathon discussion! Just like to add to the static in the air business. Check out this quote from the wiki about helicopter teams: Quote:
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2007-12-08, 02:58 | Link #147 |
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Case fans connect directly to the PSU generally. The PSU fan does not need to be connected to anything It is powered by the PSU directly.
Post pics of the connector for the case fans they generally look like this http://www.bleedinedge.com/guides/ps...ages/molex.jpg Let me get a download of the manual so I have a better picture of what's going on
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2007-12-08, 03:10 | Link #148 |
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I can't seem to upload the picture of the pin from the PSU I've taken. But actually, they are different, lol. The connector from the PSU has 3 holes like the other two fans' that were already in the case, but the PSU one is only attached to 2 wires, while the case's fans, each isattached to 3 wires.
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2007-12-08, 03:26 | Link #149 |
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For the fan:
Small? probably the thickness of your pinky finger? Like this? http://www.antec.com/images/3pinfansensor.jpg That's a little unusual but you can get away with just using one case fan. (connect the rear) I still have no clue what you're talking about for the PSU (Hiper?) Your PSU according to specs has these, which one are you talking about http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data...power_conn.jpg http://www.askkia.com/articles/images/sata15pin.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._connector.jpg (can also be male, pins instead of sockets) http://educations.newegg.com/categor...uy/image02.jpg http://images.tomshardware.com/2007/...pcie-power.jpg http://www.pcfoster.pl/Recenzje/feel3/10.jpg Typed descriptions aren't very helpful unfortunately, I really need to see pics. Or do you mean the heatsink fan?
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2007-12-08, 03:31 | Link #150 | |
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2007-12-08, 03:40 | Link #151 |
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Do not worry about the wires, worry about the actual plug and how many "holes" it has. That's what I need to know to identify what it is.
That cannot be from a PSU. I request that you have a closer look. It should be a 4 pin Floppy Disk Drive connector if it is coming from the PSU. http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data...power_conn.jpg Connectors from the Silverstone Strider according to newegg. IS THat what yo bought? I need to know this 1 x Main connector (20+4Pin) 1 x 12V (P4) 8 x peripheral 4 x SATA 2 x Floppy
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2007-12-08, 03:40 | Link #152 |
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I don't understand the descriptions very well, but if the connectors look the same, then the third wire is likely a communication wire rather than a power wire. Some fans "talk" to the motherboard and let you know what speed they're running at. If the plug fits, you're fine.
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2007-12-08, 03:46 | Link #153 |
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...W+Power+Supply
It's the "fan speed monitor connector" in the picture above.
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2007-12-08, 03:51 | Link #154 |
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Jeez, that has a ton of connectors compared to my PSU. Nice choice.
In general, if it plugs in, go with it. We're guys, we like to plug stuff in (XD~ @ Zero Shinohara). If the system doesn't power on properly, then you know it's time to unplug some things. When I was linking everything up, two power connectors from the PSU fit to my motherboard, so of course I plugged both in. The system would rev for a fraction of a second when I tried to power it on, but nothing would happen. Unplugging one of the two connectors let the system run. If you have multiple fans you may need a Y-splitter for the fan plugs. I'm not sure of the layout of your motherboard, so listen to hobbes_fan more carefully than to me, but generally you'll plug one of your fans into a three-pronged thing on the motherboard. I guess the other fans connect to the PSU directly for you - lucky you, my PSU didn't have that type of connector and I had to deal with converters and such.
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2007-12-08, 03:54 | Link #155 |
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Good stuff.
Ok I need you to trn to page 7 of your motherboard manual. It should have a diagram of your motherboard. On the right hand side find the 2 longest rectangular sockets. near there is a 3 pin socket it goes there Unfortunately for the time being you will be unable to connect your front fan. It's a bit silly of them to use a 3 pin plug for that. most motherbards have 1 or 2 max. It's no big deal. Just get an adaptor. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...pk=3pin%2bmale. Your system will be fine in terms of cooling for the time being though
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2007-12-08, 04:01 | Link #156 |
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... lucky me. I was connecting that slot with the front case fan... But since now I unplug the case fan, do I plug it into the SYS_FAN2 slot? It doesn't matter that the slot has 4 pins and my front case fan connector only has 3 holes, right?
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2007-12-08, 04:08 | Link #157 |
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At this stage leave it. Let me do some research. It's not something I would do especially as it's not absolutely crucial for you to have this fan going. I need to see what each of those pins does first. ( i don't like leaving things half plugged unless I'm absolutely sure. I need to see which pins are positive, negative and ground). Plugging the fan socket into the incorrect slot may short your motherboard.
EDIT: It should be ok, just line it up properly. The fourth plug is for communication purposes in high end fans allowing for regulation of fan speeds. See: http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../cs-012074.htm
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2007-12-08, 08:48 | Link #158 |
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Okay... so I was able to build it but the CPU temperature is too high. Right now I'm trying to remove the heatsink to reinstall it, but it turns out I can't pull out one of the four pins that pins down the heatsink...
EDIT: Wow, it takes me a long time to remove the heatsink <.< (more than 30 minutes LMAO XD) EDIT2: Anyone here think it's so laughable to only have a success attempt at installing heatsink after 3 hours? EDIT3: While I'm going to sleep (my schedule is VERY strange <.<), I would like to hear suggestion on how I should divide my Ubuntu partition? I'm planning for / and /home partitions, but not sure how much space I should leave for each. EDIT4: Took a 4 hour naps. Ran memtest86+ while doing that. 11 cycles run and no error.
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2007-12-08, 16:30 | Link #159 |
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SO temps are good? Heatsink installed properly?
If not watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6NbPMQgwPM (Sorry I can't really help too much with Intel heatsink issues)
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2007-12-08, 17:37 | Link #160 | |
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/ ----> 10 GB /home ---> 5 GB /home/user/anime ---> ?? GB ...and so on and so forth. Or, you could have a regular setup and allocate all the remaining disk space to /home. It's really your choice. I personally find that having many partitions can make a really flexible file tree, especially under Linux, and it can be pretty useful when backing up stuff... but it depends a lot on your decisions and on what you wish your file tree layout to be. PS: The Ubuntu installer, as far as I recall, is not very flexible when partitioning and setting mount points... at any case, you can make any changes you want through the fstab file.
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