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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana III - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 16 34.78%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 20 43.48%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 7 15.22%
7 out of 10 : Good 2 4.35%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 2.17%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
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Old 2012-01-27, 00:53   Link #81
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But I agree that Flame Hazes not asking about the details are strange

In fact. it doesn't make sense. If they hate denizens so much and have every reason to doubt them,
why would they take Snake's words at face value and scatter like cockroaches?

If Iran said they discovered nuclear fusion and thus, ending the world's energy problem would the US take it at face value?
The Snake prooved that the construction of Xanadu would not harm the other worlds since it didn't when he made the Path of Pilgrimage. I rather think that the failure was François and Sophie's fault, the first one for going crazy in front of their defeated troops when he is the general's right arm, and the second one for not answering anything but "don't listen" at the Snake's word. She should have shouted out the multiple failures on the enemy's plan, like which was going to be the energy source.
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Old 2012-01-27, 07:10   Link #82
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Remember, that Yuji didn't propose a ceasefire after the speech. He just told them that their duty is over (and they should just shut up and die)

He's just as guilty of letting the conflict drag on

Though to be frank, I think the denizens would keep on attacking anyway.
They have too much bad blood with flame hazes.
Yuji's the leader of the tomogara (who probably want to fight the flame haze) and he probably fears that the flame haze will try to stop him again if he doesn't push through now. He knows his speech/bluff won't stop the flame haze alltogether, so he'll try to weaken them as much as possible before putting his big plan into motion.

Even if Yuji hates fighting, he'll do whatever it takes to reach his goal, since in his eyes everyone will benefit from his plan in the end. The end justifies the means.

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But I agree that Flame Hazes not asking about the details are strange

In fact. it doesn't make sense. If they hate denizens so much and have every reason to doubt them,
why would they take Snake's words at face value and scatter like cockroaches?

If Iran said they discovered nuclear fusion and thus, ending the world's energy problem would the US take it at face value?
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The Snake prooved that the construction of Xanadu would not harm the other worlds since it didn't when he made the Path of Pilgrimage. I rather think that the failure was François and Sophie's fault, the first one for going crazy in front of their defeated troops when he is the general's right arm, and the second one for not answering anything but "don't listen" at the Snake's word. She should have shouted out the multiple failures on the enemy's plan, like which was going to be the energy source.
I agree that the reaction of the flame haze was kind of exaggerated. I can believe some of them flipping out, but nearly all of them...? Shock after hearing what Yuji said is expected, but they should've calmed down and thought about the matter more before making their conclusions.

SnH didn't really proof anything though. The Path of Pilgrimage and Xanadu are creations of completely different scales. He had also resorted to kidnapping the strongest flame haze in order to weaken the flame haze (they don't know that he did this in order to get Shana out of harms way as well). Lastly, the real body of SnH already had quite the effect on the world (mistquake?)

All in all, they should never have taken his words at face value.
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Old 2012-02-05, 21:53   Link #83
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After seeing the body of the God of Creation. As well as seeing François losing his sanity, while also retreating from a bloody defeat. You would expect morale from "all" members to be low but the main command. Any normal Flame Haze would lose hope after seeing such a sight before their very own eyes. While Yuji's words promised a world where PoE would flow endlessly (source currently unknown).

Then, when the rout started. The people who tried to keep a sane mind couldn't keep it anymore, especially after seeing the rest of their comrades scatter. These reasons can contribute to "everyone" scattering besides the leaders. The thought of no more wars can gnaw at anyone's mind during a huge battle.

Even if Xanadu wasn't fully explained. It still had quite the effect.
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