Mahou Senki Lyrical Nanoha Force Manga Discussion

[TheRainbowConnection]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

Though I must admit, I expected Vita to swing with the hammer, not shoot from the tip. It makes her decision to switch to a Strike Cannon later look kinda odd. And I got the impression Plasma Pile was doing more damage to the ship than the Strike Cannon was.

I just sorta assumed that the War Hammer similarly had a battery and that it ran out of juice. And of course, instead of creating a viable method for recharge/reload, they're forced to sell more toys change to a different weapon. If only the hangar had a whole bunch of War Hammers lined up on the wall...

Originally Posted by DezoPenguin

One touch I love is the description of the colors. It's so like a real corporation would do--it's not enough to just say that Nanoha's unit is blue and white and Vita's is red and black. Kind of like how my tan car is "sand" according to the manufacturer.

Lol. I wonder if those colors are trademarked by the TSAB. Strato Blue™, etc.

[Keroko]

We mustn't forget that Levantein was broken because of the Hucks anti-magic effect, not because Cypha had a really hard body. Using Graf Eisen on the Hucks ship would result in the same thing.

As for Voltaire... one could argue that the Hucks anti-magic would break the summoning bind and send Voltaire back, I suppose.

[Justin_Brett]

Graf Eisen's probably good for at least one swing, at that size. There's still physics and mass to think about, after all.

[Keroko]

Let us not drag physics and mass into this lest the tiny loli suddenly can't lift her hammer anymore due to physics.

[Justin_Brett]

*shrug*

Gigant Form wouldn't be called that if size didn't matter at all.

[Akiyoshi]

true, even with the Anit-Magic in play, Vita would be able to at least "Drop the Hammer" on the Huckship, she can cast the giganform pretty quickly afterall(at least much quicker than the Heimdall).

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

*Shrugs*

Considering that you could call it that, Ki Blasts

Shouldn't Ki or The Force counts towards the magical side of things?

Also,

Originally Posted by Miles Teg

Usually magical devices channel the magical power of the users and directly output it as "bullets" or "barriers."* However, the core function of the CW Series of armed interfaces (including the aforementioned model) is to instantly convert the users' magical power into impact shocks

Following the above description, would "Air Blast" still count, what with it claiming outputs them directly into "impact shocks" instead of bullets? The wind should count as a projectile, no?

*sigh* Dunno, maybe I just lack the reference. Maybe someone could give a link to the *ahem* tech-y concept out there that is similar to...whatever the Strike Cannons is described as?

Originally Posted by DezoPenguin

It also answers my question about why they weren't fitting out AEC weaponry for the grunts--apparently you have to be a highly powerful mage just to get the things to work (which, honestly, is right in line with the Bureau's philosophy of having destructive power in the hands of those who have to spend years in training and developing their strength instead of "anyone can pick it up and use it" technology).

So much for arming the grunts with the mass-produced variant to give them a fighting chance theory. If the redshirts know what's good for them, they'll resign immediately -risk being court martialed for desertion if they have to- and let the Primadona Squad handle all the fighting; it's not like they can do anything anyway, and in the end the heroes wouldn't even mourn them due to 'defeat means friendship'.

[Kaijo]

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

*shrug*

Gigant Form wouldn't be called that if size didn't matter at all.

That's what she said. =(

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

So much for arming the grunts with the mass-produced variant to give them a fighting chance theory. If the redshirts know what's good for them, they'll resign immediately -risk being court martialed for desertion if they have to- and let the Primadona Squad handle all the fighting; it's not like they can do anything anyway, and in the end the heroes wouldn't even mourn them due to 'defeat means friendship'.

You just discovered the dark side of the "defeat means frienship" route in a military setting, fallen comrades will never be avenged(Signum T_T).

[Justin_Brett]

On the topic of the story, if the Hucks are retreating, I'd have preferred it if Fortis was the one to do it, since he underestimated Section Six in the first place (granted, as far as the story shows, that underestimation was completely correct). If we're gonna compare them with the Wolkenritter, they realized Nanoha and Fate weren't nothing to fool with after their first fight.

[aers]

Chapter 14's name is 「Silbern Kreuz」, Force NEXT is Lily & エンゲージスーツ (Engage Suit?).

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

You just discovered the dark side of the "defeat means frienship" route in a military setting, fallen comrades will never be avenged(Signum T_T).

After the inevitable (and wall-banging) befriending...
Cypha: "So...uh, sorry for the whole 'impaling you with a big-but-totally-not-phallic sword right in the uterus' thing"
Signum: "Don't worry. People here rarely use that, anyway. You might wanna tell your friend to say sorry to Schach for the dead nuns, though."
Schach: "Ah, 'tis cool. They're nameless anyway, so nobody would remember them. Anybody want some Saint cookies?"

Originally Posted by aers

Chapter 14's name is 「Silbern Kreuz」, Force NEXT is Lily & エンゲージスーツ (Engage Suit?).

Engage Suit--->Suit she use to engage--->suit she use for reacting--->her birthday suit?

[00-Raiser]

Hm, I wonder if it looks like this...



EDIT: Oh, it does

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by aers

Chapter 14's name is 「Silbern Kreuz」, Force NEXT is Lily & エンゲージスーツ (Engage Suit?).

Silbern Kreuz is German for "Silver Cross", though the grammar is off. Should be "Silbernes Kreuz" 'cuz Kreuz is neuter.

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Cypha: "So...uh, sorry for the whole 'impaling you with a big-but-totally-not-phallic sword right in the uterus' thing"
Signum: "Don't worry. People here rarely use that, anyway.

*suddenly imagines Signum and Cypha's love child* Must... not... succumb to... crack...

Engage Suit--->Suit she use to engage--->suit she use for reacting--->her birthday suit?

Engage suit --> wedding dress.

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Asymmetric zettai ryouiki seems to be the official Belkan Magical Tome uniform.

[Akiyoshi]

It actually looks pretty good, i like her uhm ..."battle weeding dess" looks like a mix of Zwei and Nanoha's designs.

[Justin_Brett]

Even showing off her armor, she adopts a very passive pose.

If she can use magic, that might lead credence to my 'Veyron is a human Divider/Reactor' theory.

[Akiyoshi]

Probably now Lily will have something to do with Tohma recovering self-control. So, Tohma can now control his powers, now what?

If that's the case, i expect some sort of handicap for Tohma because right now he's arguably a lot more powerfull than the villains themselves(save for Karen probably). Probably with his attitude of "no killing" his powers will start to weaken. Or maybe Karen nows a method to fight him. Well, still waiting to the gang up on Tohma xD.

Now THAT'S how you defeat a Huckebein xD! ...i knew it! let's go girls, gang up on them! xD

[Justin_Brett]

Or he'll have something like Hayate's case.

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

It actually looks pretty good, i like her uhm ..."battle weeding dess" looks like a mix of Zwei and Nanoha's designs.

I am pretty sure you've made a typo there but it sure as hell made me imagine a scene where Lily pacifies the berserk Thoma by handing him a huge joint while humming "Don't Worry, Be Happy". *ruuuuuuunz*

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

Even showing off her armor, she adopts a very passive pose.

Some girls' appeal is their perfect natural submissiveness. ^^

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

Or he'll have something like Hayate's case.

I think Lily's dress is a less-than-subtle hint that she functions pretty much like a Unison Device to her Driver...

[TheRainbowConnection]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

She's pretty.

Mages sure love their puffy shoulders and battle skirts/tails/buttcapes. Looks like the blue/silver sideboob protectors are actually a separate piece? Wonder what the dangly pair of thingamajiggers at the front do.