2012-11-04, 16:22 | Link #361 | |
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By the way, she did go straight to the cops. |
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2012-11-04, 18:28 | Link #362 |
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Yeah, cause soon after, she's telling that the guys got arrested, her friends moving away.
But in this situation, you need to blame someone. A "bouc émissaire", kind of, for what happened. Those guys were trash, there is no question about it. But why did they got raped in the first place ? Because of her. She's the one who invited them, and on top of that she escaped. Obviously, she's the culprit to the other girls. |
2012-11-04, 20:12 | Link #363 | |
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And those friends got 100.000 yen each for nominating Himiko per episode 2.
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2012-11-04, 20:59 | Link #364 | |
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On the rest, we agree with each other. |
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2012-11-04, 21:00 | Link #365 | |
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We can agree to disagree. However, angels and normal people are not being sent to that island. And... when Himiko entered the apt, the only bag she had was the convenience store bag, no purse or other bag was on her person (ep. 2 17:35). Himiko was only shown in ep. 2 running away.
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2012-11-05, 18:56 | Link #369 |
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I don't think any forthcoming explanation on Himeko's part will be able to make up for the fact that a) she got her friends gangraped, and b) not only did she run away (in terror, yes, but she still left them behind) but she wasn't even able to report the crime in question. In her own mind, she deserved every bit of hate her friends had for her, regardless of the actual circumstances, which is why she didn't even react to being sent to the island.
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2012-11-05, 19:16 | Link #370 | |
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To me, she didn't react to the hate cause has you said, she thinks she deserves it. But being sent away ? Was she even aware that this thing was for real ? We might get a bit off topic but what was she supposed to do ? Sit down quietly and wait for her turn to come ? Who the hell would have done that... When dealing with a traumatic event, one can't always be a hero. I do believe that the first thought was to run away for self-preservation. She did stop when her friend called for her, though. It's pretty hard to figure what's best in a situation that brutal. |
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2012-11-05, 20:15 | Link #371 |
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I read the Manga again and it was never mentioned that she was running away without calling the cops. I think its clear that she was the one who called them in the first place.
Chapter 34 page 13. "Gotta run... Must escape from here.. to the police...!! to mother..!!" Spoiler for chapter 34 page 13:
Chapter 34 page 17. After she escaped. "this incident was quickly exposed to the general public." Spoiler for chapter 34 page 17:
Himeko believes she deserves to be punished because she was the one who took them to her senpai's place and she was the only one who could escape and was not raped. Chapter 34 page 16. Spoiler for chapter 34 page 16:
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2012-11-05, 22:33 | Link #375 | |
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And...she also never stated that she did call the police. That flashback gives the impression of someone getting the heck out of Dodge.
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2012-11-05, 23:30 | Link #376 | |
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And why wouldn't anyone know that she were there? No matter if she called or not so would she be an important vitness for the trial. Everyone involved knew her too and the girls had no reason to keep her out of it. As for implications so is there two for her calling and none against. She is thinking about the police when she runs away. She is also blaming herself for taking them there and for escaping, but nothing about not calling the police afterwards. Would you really have just run away without calling the police and not felt bad about that? |
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You can think of things all the time. But if you're not shown doing it, then it didn't happen imo. Also the translated words that she is using is not supporting that she followed thru. If she did, then she would have said "I called the police. They arrived fast." Quote:
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2012-11-06, 00:59 | Link #379 | |
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-Why make accusations if the case seems to be not really clear in the first place? -Does the "innocent until proven guilty" suddenly not count anymore? -Is Himiko really giving the impression to just abondon her friends like that without even calling for help? Which human being with a conscience and that is not a monster would do that in the first place? |
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2012-11-06, 05:09 | Link #380 |
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When i read it, i was given the impression that her friends sent her to the island because they thought that she purposefully lured them to the apartment to be raped. Afterwards, she would be too ashamed to even face them so they wouldn't know the truth. Different interpretations i guess. But hey, i also thought that she was the one that called the police as well.
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