2012-08-07, 03:35 | Link #881 | |
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...I was planning to buy the physical copy as I saw a store carry the OP theme. EDIT: @Gohan78 I think that was the general review of the series made (or at least book 1) before the anime aired.
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2012-08-07, 03:40 | Link #882 |
Komrades of Kitamura Kou
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As the drama unfolds and Iori faces the specter of death, Heartseed's words at the end makes you wonder what he really is. To me he's one of either two things:
1. An alien-like observer who knows nothing about human nature and human reactions, thus puts these high schoolers into a twisted experiment to see how human nature works in the shadow of lost individuality and identity. 2. A sort of omnipotent being who does, actually, greatly understand humanity, and does this because he sees something wrong with these high schoolers and subjects them to this trial as a why of teaching them something. Heartseed's parting words are a bit too neutral for me to conclude what kind of person he is. The second possibility I listed has more benevolence than the first, but again you have to question the method even if you know the motive. For an omnipotent and probably godlike figure, his methods seem too cruel to be benevolent, but his parting much too convenient and forgiving for an observer. Maybe he's simply amoral? In any case, that was a gripping last half of the episode. One of the more... emotional final confessions I've seen in a long time.
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2012-08-07, 06:46 | Link #883 | |
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2012-08-07, 10:59 | Link #884 | |
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In the end I guess it depends on whether you see certain plot developments as "cheating" or not. Aside from that, the fact is that this kind of premise from the start depends on the author's imagination rather than action and consequence. The kids go through one completely unexplainable event (starting with body switching), then another and another. You can't get more "I'm the author so I want this to happen" than that, so I suppose I just see any attempt to give some explanation as an improvement, as long as it doesn't contradict itself. But I think we agree on some points: Heartseed IS a plot device and Mr. exposition and his problem isn't so much the fact that he adds a supernatural element into the show, but how undeveloped he is. |
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2012-08-07, 12:11 | Link #886 | |
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Specifically, I dislike how it seems that the sole purpose of his character is to generate conflict within the story. He's strikes me as something of a convenient plot element that works as the author's mouthpiece. Of course, fleshing out his character might work in building him into a character. However, any time that could be spent for that purpose would probably be much better spent on developing the main cast, the show's main asset.
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2012-08-07, 14:20 | Link #891 | |
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Personally, I find Heartseed fascinating, and I think the personality has been developed already. We know he is performing some kind of duty. We know he feels a lack of energy and determination. We know he is absurdly powerful and somewhat capricious. We know he is trying to get a reaction and observe the results. We don't have clear ideas of who/what he/she/it is, but we do have scraps of personality and action to react to. And I react with great interest. Sure he is a "plot device," but he seems to me to be a lot more. I can even think of him as a symbol of the irresistible power of the world to mess with us. Most of us don't have such a weird character interfering in our lives, but we do have a big world around us doing the same thing. Anyway, just to say that my own natural reactions here differ from yours. Vive la différence.
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2012-08-07, 15:12 | Link #892 | |
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2012-08-07, 18:59 | Link #895 |
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I'd gladly point out answers for you, but this is not the place to be doing that. We have a thread in the manga section.
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2012-08-07, 21:02 | Link #898 |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Ahhh, but there's a problem there.
Iori and Taichi kissed. Which is correct. But Inaban and Taichi kissed as well. And it was Inaban's first kiss as well, as she points out. So who actually was first? Inaban or Iori? Iori herself is the one that's freaking out over "the body defines who one is" By that logic, Inaban wins. It's very well set up... *nods sagely* Arturia
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2012-08-07, 21:04 | Link #899 | |
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And Inaba did make the masturbation reveal before Iori did anything close to that...
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2012-08-07, 21:07 | Link #900 |
Uruchai Uruchai Uruchai
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Which is the beauty of the first girl wins...who is first? First introduced, first to confess, first to be confessed to, most featured in the OP/ED etc. Usually it's very clear who the first girl is, and most would say Iori. I know not to believe anything with this show though because of the body swapping nature.
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body swapping, comedy, drama, romance, shounen, slice of life |
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