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mt888 · 2006-07-18, 13:08

do u think kalinin was a spy for amalgam because he met with leonard. also in burning one man force it said he looked a bit hesitant with his orders. it didn't explain why and he suddenly disappeard without an answer for us.

Masanori Ota · 2006-07-18, 18:43

I was thinking the same thing, but was hesitant to mention it. Probably get flamed by the fangirls...

But since all arrows point to Kalinin, it can't be him. It's never the obvious guy. Kalinin's probably fooling Mithril to gain Amalgam's respect, but still giving intel to someone higher ranking than Tessa.

TenshiHime · 2006-07-18, 21:59

gosh! i hope he's not! i really like him, and he seems like a father figure to sousuke, so he better not be!

anyway, it seems too obvious, so ya, i agree that hes probably acting on orders from mithril to kind of infiltrate almagen and get as much info as he can.

mt888 · 2006-07-19, 02:06

yes but i should remind u that mithril is no more and im sure amalgam would know if he was a spy for mithril (tehy know everything)/

Cooldude · 2006-07-19, 03:10

Spoiler tag, there should be one, and the thread title's just too spoilistic as well

Don't think he's so far as being a traitor, but he certainly knows a lot more about Amalgam and certainly Leonardo than most

Anyone who's read ADVMC at the end where he was having a beer with Leonardo in Sydney, talking about catching "Mr Zinc" (The Secretary guy Mr Jackson whom Tessa had an association with at the Headquarters), don't think Kalinin would be a traitor if he's getting rid of Amalgam spies within Mithril. There's obviously more to Leonardo than meets the eye

HanB · 2006-07-19, 12:07

sry pls see next reply

HanB · 2006-07-19, 12:12

I'm new here. I think Mithril has some spy (maybe someone in commander and I think may be he's Mr.Gold in Amalgum). And Kalinin knows some clue, he wants to find out who is a spy. Therefore he pretends to betray Mithril to make Amalgum trust him.

It's my imagination.

Thk.

masterwok · 2006-07-19, 12:27

where did u guys see that kalinin was with leonard. anyways kalinin would never betray mithril, since he's been with them along time, espeically sousuke.

Masanori Ota · 2006-07-19, 14:33

In a book.

And his name is Leonard, not Leonardo, but you can call him Leotard if you want. He deserves it.

And Mithril is not completely down-and-out, it's just crippled.

masterwok · 2006-07-19, 19:01

nice on the the name calling masanori ota with the leotard, but i know him from TSR. i believe you that mithril is just crippled, and i bet they will beat amalgam with sousuke on their side and the guy that beat an armslave without using a lambda drive when his opponent has one.

Wandy · 2006-07-19, 20:26

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Originally Posted by masterwok

the guy that beat an armslave without using a lambda drive when his opponent has one.

wouldn't count on him if there is a lamba drive user like Gaulun

mt888 · 2006-07-22, 13:16

mithril is out for good, the people that survived the attack r at hide or on the run.
but there r a few people with some power of there own that will probably help sousuke (and of coursee th lovely tessa). but this is a topic for a different disscusion this is for 'is kalinin a traitor?'

Masanori Ota · 2006-07-22, 13:31

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Generalgm · 2006-07-22, 16:27

mithril is down but not out. In chapter 4 (the newly released chapter !! i think !! ) from what I heard its a plan to regroup the members of mithril for a counterattack or something. I could be wrong due to the language barrier. Also I found a page in which there are monthly pictures of whats in the next novel. Though they kinda stopped on jan 2006 it does show alot of novel picture goodness. The mag is called Fantasy Dragon Magazine or "Doramaga" or "Gekkan Dragon Magazine".
Take a gander
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery-novelsm.html
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery-dm.html
and the main pic page
http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery.html

gencbiba · 2006-07-22, 17:11

Hmm... Maybe Chinatown has some anime shops where I could find some FMP novels. Does anyone have a site that shows all novels in a chronological order and their summaries? Or, if you know them by heart, could someone just recite them to me... It would be greatly appreciated.

Generalgm · 2006-07-22, 18:52

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Originally Posted by gencbiba

Hmm... Maybe Chinatown has some anime shops where I could find some FMP novels. Does anyone have a site that shows all novels in a chronological order and their summaries? Or, if you know them by heart, could someone just recite them to me... It would be greatly appreciated.

Look full metal panic up on wikipedia. It should have a media list and most of the names of the novels.
Your best bet is getting them on amazon.jp or from the site that produces them.
Refer to some of the threads on the forums, they should give you the names of the unlisted novels

Reil · 2006-08-23, 19:21

Back on topic, I personally think Kalanin probably did give information to Amalgam, but I highly doubt it was for purely selfish reasons.

Generalgm · 2006-08-23, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Reil

Back on topic, I personally think Kalanin probably did give information to Amalgam, but I highly doubt it was for purely selfish reasons.

One can only contemplate. I wonder if hes trying to "play" Amalgam. Maybe he will play a decisive factor in the story later? >: D

Kikaifan · 2006-08-24, 01:27

I dunno, we only ever know Sousuke and Tessa's regard for Kalinin; little is revealed about the man himself. He could just be a traitor.

Though in general I'm bothered by the lack of clear purpose in Amalgam. Are they just in it for the profit and only bother with the military arm to keep white-knight types like Mithril out of their business? Or do they have some higher aim relating to the whispered? I'd like to know...

Urgh, Kalinin in a Venom would be a one-man army if he has any skill with the lambda driver, even Closeaux respects his skill...

Killa_hurtz · 2006-08-24, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Kikaifan

I dunno, we only ever know Sousuke and Tessa's regard for Kalinin; little is revealed about the man himself. He could just be a traitor.

Though in general I'm bothered by the lack of clear purpose in Amalgam. Are they just in it for the profit and only bother with the military arm to keep white-knight types like Mithril out of their business? Or do they have some higher aim relating to the whispered? I'd like to know...

Urgh, Kalinin in a Venom would be a one-man army if he has any skill with the lambda driver, even Closeaux respects his skill...

Gauron tells Sousuke exactly what Amalgam's objective is in The Second Raid

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2006-07-18, 13:08	Link #1
mt888 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	is kalinin a traitor? do u think kalinin was a spy for amalgam because he met with leonard. also in burning one man force it said he looked a bit hesitant with his orders. it didn't explain why and he suddenly disappeard without an answer for us.

2006-07-18, 18:43	Link #2
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	I was thinking the same thing, but was hesitant to mention it. Probably get flamed by the fangirls... But since all arrows point to Kalinin, it can't be him. It's never the obvious guy. Kalinin's probably fooling Mithril to gain Amalgam's respect, but still giving intel to someone higher ranking than Tessa. __________________

2006-07-19, 14:33	Link #9
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	In a book. And his name is Leonard, not Leonardo, but you can call him Leotard if you want. He deserves it. And Mithril is not completely down-and-out, it's just crippled. __________________

2006-07-22, 13:31	Link #13
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	I wouldn't be so sure about that. __________________

2006-07-22, 16:27	Link #14
Generalgm Eager Young Space Cadet Join Date: Jul 2006	mithril is down but not out. In chapter 4 (the newly released chapter !! i think !! ) from what I heard its a plan to regroup the members of mithril for a counterattack or something. I could be wrong due to the language barrier. Also I found a page in which there are monthly pictures of whats in the next novel. Though they kinda stopped on jan 2006 it does show alot of novel picture goodness. The mag is called Fantasy Dragon Magazine or "Doramaga" or "Gekkan Dragon Magazine". Take a gander http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery-novelsm.html http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery-dm.html and the main pic page http://fmp.abstratica.org/gallery.html Last edited by Generalgm; 2006-07-22 at 16:45.

2006-07-18, 21:59	Link #3
TenshiHime Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	gosh! i hope he's not! i really like him, and he seems like a father figure to sousuke, so he better not be! anyway, it seems too obvious, so ya, i agree that hes probably acting on orders from mithril to kind of infiltrate almagen and get as much info as he can.

2006-07-19, 02:06	Link #4
mt888 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	yes but i should remind u that mithril is no more and im sure amalgam would know if he was a spy for mithril (tehy know everything)/

2006-07-19, 03:10	Link #5
Cooldude Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Spoiler tag, there should be one, and the thread title's just too spoilistic as well Don't think he's so far as being a traitor, but he certainly knows a lot more about Amalgam and certainly Leonardo than most Anyone who's read ADVMC at the end where he was having a beer with Leonardo in Sydney, talking about catching "Mr Zinc" (The Secretary guy Mr Jackson whom Tessa had an association with at the Headquarters), don't think Kalinin would be a traitor if he's getting rid of Amalgam spies within Mithril. There's obviously more to Leonardo than meets the eye

2006-07-19, 12:07	Link #6
HanB Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	sry pls see next reply

2006-07-19, 12:12	Link #7
HanB Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	I'm new here. I think Mithril has some spy (maybe someone in commander and I think may be he's Mr.Gold in Amalgum). And Kalinin knows some clue, he wants to find out who is a spy. Therefore he pretends to betray Mithril to make Amalgum trust him. It's my imagination. Thk.

2006-07-19, 12:27	Link #8
masterwok Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35	where did u guys see that kalinin was with leonard. anyways kalinin would never betray mithril, since he's been with them along time, espeically sousuke.

2006-07-19, 19:01	Link #10
masterwok Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35	nice on the the name calling masanori ota with the leotard, but i know him from TSR. i believe you that mithril is just crippled, and i bet they will beat amalgam with sousuke on their side and the guy that beat an armslave without using a lambda drive when his opponent has one.

2006-07-22, 13:16	Link #12
mt888 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	mithril is out for good, the people that survived the attack r at hide or on the run. but there r a few people with some power of there own that will probably help sousuke (and of coursee th lovely tessa). but this is a topic for a different disscusion this is for 'is kalinin a traitor?'

2006-07-22, 17:11	Link #15
gencbiba Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Hmm... Maybe Chinatown has some anime shops where I could find some FMP novels. Does anyone have a site that shows all novels in a chronological order and their summaries? Or, if you know them by heart, could someone just recite them to me... It would be greatly appreciated. __________________ Captain Tsubasa and Dai no Daibouken are being translated!! Check us out at http://www.hiei-tf.fr/frenchies-subs/. Stop on by and show us some love at the forums.

2006-08-23, 19:21	Link #17
Reil Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Back on topic, I personally think Kalanin probably did give information to Amalgam, but I highly doubt it was for purely selfish reasons.

2006-08-24, 01:27	Link #19
Kikaifan Blazing General Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA Age: 37	I dunno, we only ever know Sousuke and Tessa's regard for Kalinin; little is revealed about the man himself. He could just be a traitor. Though in general I'm bothered by the lack of clear purpose in Amalgam. Are they just in it for the profit and only bother with the military arm to keep white-knight types like Mithril out of their business? Or do they have some higher aim relating to the whispered? I'd like to know... Urgh, Kalinin in a Venom would be a one-man army if he has any skill with the lambda driver, even Closeaux respects his skill...