Darker Than Black [1st season] generic discussion

[Vanehei]

Yup, i also think that we wont have a happy ending... but who knows.. maybe Bones will surprice us!!! (i dont think so). I just hope that they make it beautiful, smart and not soup-operta type..

[tresor]

A way I have been able to make headway with some of the self-involved anime series is from the previews from the next shows and the soundtracks. The previews usually include the only director's commentary one will receive in the series. The previews have made several comments about P/Bai/Hei's sister (the latest at the end of episode 15).

I was a little disappointed that the current soundtrack did not include more of the background music, because on the soundtrack the background music is tied to an actual name. So, when the background music plays one can then associate the name with the scene, which usually provides some insight (and sometimes major insight).

What are the odds of Studio Bones having a bitter ending?

[TigerII]

Bitter? Bitter is a couple breaking up. Death means tragic, even more depressing.

[aardvark]

Originally Posted by tresor

What are the odds of Studio Bones having a bitter ending?

Well, theyve gone to both extremes before, tragic ending with Wolf's Rain, and super happy good ending with Eureka Seven

Kind of hard to predict, but considering that at the moment I'm not even sure WHAT would constitute the final arcs of the series I cant really say what type of ending we'll have here.

Nevertheless, it's not like there's some Studio Bones credo for anime endings, most of their works have don't have some sort of "bad end" or "good end" pattern. Its not as if the studio dictates its shows endings to the creators (from what I know...)

[TigerII]

Wow, I had forgotten about Wolf's Rain. Now that is a sad ending.

[meh]

Episode 17 isn't bad in of itself, just really annoying on the heels of several plot-advancing episodes. Since the overall plot in DTB is very good, this makes things very disappointing. The bi-episodal nature of the series also implies that the next episode is likely filler material too.

[ImperialPanda]

I don't think eps 17 was filler at all. It showed quite a bit of Hei's "regular" life that was never known before. There have been more details on almost every character besides Hei and this episode is finally about him.

Funny too. xD

[tresor]

Wolf's Rain Screenplay: Dai Sato Storyboard: Tensai Okamura. Tensai Okamura (DtB Creator) avatar is the laying wolf's head.

I'm glad that you liked Eureka Seven, but don't read this ending spoiler for that one, nor Dai Sato's interviews.

Spoiler for Tone of Eureka Seven Actual Ending:

"heartbreaking sadness" -anidb

Spoiler for Tone of Eureka Seven Actual Ending:

Renton and Eureka's final Kiss Scene: New Order "Perfect Kiss" the song that niji/rainbow is based on.
Lyrics to niji/rainbow itself goes like rainbow clears, what are these colors the color of ##### (Japanese philosophy of rainbows is ...). Renton says BYE with the same exact intonation that Ryo says "You left without saying BYE" in Ultraman Dyna episode 49 Final Chapter I: A New Shadow (the last episode title was Final Chapter III: Toward Tomorrow...)
Renton's speech to Eureka about Sacrificing is very existence for her is basically the same as Hiroya Fujimiya's last speech in Ultraman Gaia Episode 26 : KETCHAKU NO HI (Day of Conclusion). Ultraman Gaia is a precursor to Eureka themes. These Ultraman Episodes are very well known in Japan. Ultaman Gaia had a "final movie" after the fact, and it is considered the darkest Ultraman episode ever. Eureka Seven was just loaded with emotional touch stones, this is just 1 act of one episode! Sorry.

[hipeach]

Originally Posted by aardvark

Well, theyve gone to both extremes before, tragic ending with Wolf's Rain, and super happy good ending with Eureka Seven

I'm not sure if Eureka Seven's ending can be called a "super happy good ending" when

Spoiler:

Renton sacrificed his own humanity to be with Eureka forever

[TigerII]

Spoiler for End:

Yeah I was about to say, E7, they are together..but always alone with just each other. But still better than Wolf's of everyone getting killed, then reborn, rinse repeat, over and over.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by meh

Episode 17 isn't bad in of itself, just really annoying on the heels of several plot-advancing episodes. Since the overall plot in DTB is very good, this makes things very disappointing. The bi-episodal nature of the series also implies that the next episode is likely filler material too.

well i did expect a "cool off" period for amber and her team to prepare for the next stage of their plan so i took this mini arc/story as a breather before we are thrown head first back into the main story :3

overall its not too bad ~ i can definitly see some emotion for the story instead of something totally random :/

[Vanehei]

Wow, i can´t believe that in two monts we will be talking about the end.... i hate to not have spoilers!!! i hate to not have a clue about anything!!! (well, i love it too). And for what a read, if we make a bet, the Amber and Hei death will be the winner...

Speaking about something else, where are you Wao? i miss your posts! you always made a good summary of the chapters and, you always made interesting comments!! come back!!! we miss you!

[TigerII]

I call death to at least Amber, probably Hei as well.

[hipeach]

I don't understand why BONES don't hire some English teacher to write the english part for them. I'm surprised the police can somehow understand the "claim of responsibility" from evening primrose. Even free online translators can do a better job

[Vanehei]

Jejej.. yup, they are worse than me... they even invented a city "Rondon"

[ImperialPanda]

Spoiler for primrose at end of eps 16:

I dunno if this has been mentioned but I think the male guy in the evening primrose scene at the end of eps 16 is Wei from eps 9-10. The hair seems different but they sound really similar.

EDIT: Nevermind I found the mention of him browsing backwards. =P

This caught my interested because I really wanted to see Mai again as a Syndicate agent. xD

[meh]

Originally Posted by hipeach

I don't understand why BONES don't hire some English teacher to write the english part for them. I'm surprised the police can somehow understand the "claim of responsibility" from evening primrose. Even free online translators can do a better job

Free online fan translators are better than the majority of professional translators in Asia, speaking from a perspective of a translator/interpretor myself. It's very difficult unless you understand both cultures, which most translators do not.

Originally Posted by ImperialPanda

I don't think eps 17 was filler at all. It showed quite a bit of Hei's "regular" life that was never known before. There have been more details on almost every character besides Hei and this episode is finally about him.

Funny too. xD

What do you consider "filler" then? I would think that with an episode that neither advances the story nor have much character development to be a filler. It reminds me of the early arcs, where the stories have really no bearing on the main story at all.

[hipeach]

Originally Posted by meh

Free online fan translators are better than the majority of professional translators in Asia, speaking from a perspective of a translator/interpretor myself. It's very difficult unless you understand both cultures, which most translators do not.

actually, I was not talking about fan translators, but something like
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

[JiggleJiggle]

actually, i don't mind if amber dies. just hei. i'm all set on a heixyin ending.

[tresor]

"Free online fan translators are better than the majority of professional translators in Asia, speaking from a perspective of a translator/interpretor myself. It's very difficult unless you understand both cultures, which most translators do not."

After seeing some of the better of the free translations of various anime, I hold the people who do this work (and for free) in an extremely high regard, of the highest kind.