(L) Girls und Panzer

[RRW]

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by Zaku_II

If we talking about WW1 it would be Girls und Linienschiff

Au contraire, it should be Damsels and Dreadnoughts. It's a British technology, and they should be recognized for it. That sort of goes for Girls und Panzer, come to think of it.

Originally Posted by RRW

[SNIP Yukari picture]

The artist needs to look at the official art again: Yukari always wears gloves while handling artillery.

[RRW]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

The artist needs to look at the official art again: Yukari always wears gloves while handling artillery.

But is not an artillery shell. is a chocolate that shape like artillery shell

[Ithekro]

She needs chocolate gloves than.

Damsels and Dreadnoughts is fine, but British tanks aren't very iconic for the Second World War.

[Sumeragi]

She even says it's a chocolate in the shape of a shell.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by RRW

But is not an artillery shell. is a chocolate that shape like artillery shell

Chocolate stains!

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Damsels and Dreadnoughts is fine, but British tanks aren't very iconic for the Second World War.

Sure they are. Matilda IIs are pretty famous, and so are Churchills. Everyone should also know about Centurions too, given how game-changing they are.

If anything, the German tanks are better known than they really should be.

[tomexe]

Originally Posted by Zaku_II

Spoiler for Comments from the preview:

Forget about those Königstigers, THAT Jagdtiger is climbing the slope without stopping regardless multiple hits by the Oarai team.

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The amout of slope they are showing, I don't know Jagdtiger can climb it. They were underpowered... hmm what is Miho planning.

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by tomexe

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The amout of slope they are showing, I don't know Jagdtiger can climb it. They were underpowered... hmm what is Miho planning.

Spoiler:

That scene, to me, is very reminiscent of the scene at the end of the movie Battle of the Bulge where they roll fuel drums down into the advancing King Tigers. No fuel drums here, but perhaps something else "outside the box" used to disable the Jagdtiger

[Liddo-kun]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

Spoiler:

That scene, to me, is very reminiscent of the scene at the end of the movie Battle of the Bulge where they roll fuel drums down into the advancing King Tigers. No fuel drums here, but perhaps something else "outside the box" used to disable the Jagdtiger

Spoiler:

I've seen that part of the movie too. There's some additional difficuly for Oarai though. In the Battle of the Bulge movie, the King Tiger is stuck and have difficulty going up. Here in girls und Panzer, the Jagdtiger does not seem to be stuck at all.

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

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I've seen that part of the movie too. There's some additional difficuly for Oarai though. In the Battle of the Bulge movie, the King Tiger is stuck and have difficulty going up. Here in girls und Panzer, the Jagdtiger does not seem to be stuck at all.

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True. I guess I'm thinking that, as a Jagdtiger, it should be very slow climbing that slope. Then again, this is Girls und Panzer, where Churchills chase down Panzer IVs! So again your point is valid

[Liddo-kun]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

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True. I guess I'm thinking that, as a Jagdtiger, it should be very slow climbing that slope. Then again, this is Girls und Panzer, where Churchills chase down Panzer IVs! So again your point is valid

Major spoiler on Battle of the Bulge movie included inside

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Thanks. Though I have to say that it looked to me that the Jagdtiger was having ease on climbing. Who knows, when the full episode is shown - the tiger might be shown to have trouble climbing. So your point about the tiger being heavy is valid too. There's a good chance the scriptwriters could go with the Jagdtiger being underpowered and thus have difficulty with the hill - they highlighted the problems of the Tiger P after all, in a previous episode.

Battle of the Bulge is an ok movie. Entertaining enough. Though what I find unbelievable is that a King Tiger can be disposed of using fuel drums.

On another topic. About the Churchill, I remember the story of Tiger 131 - only working Tiger 1 in the world today. That it's final battle was against Churchills. Shots from the Churchill tanks with 6 pounder guns were able to make the crew of Tiger 131 abandon their tank. Which leads me to believe that Darjeeling's Churchill with it's 6 pounder gun, does have a small chance against the Tiger 1's of Black Forest.

[Tak]

But... Battle of the Bulge movie was hardly accurate

- Tak

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Tak

But... Battle of the Bulge movie was hardly accurate

- Tak

We've already had a Kelly's Heroes homage, and that was entirely fictional, so why not?

[Ithekro]

What about a Hetzer from the side or rear?

Though it looks to me like the jadgtiger is there to cover the flag tank from Miho and company's fire.

[rocket]

Speaking of the Churchill...

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[LoweGear]

Well, it's not quite the correct Churchill model (I think yours is a Mk. IV NA75 with a Sherman gun mantle and 75mm M3 gun, whereas St. Gloriana uses a Mk. VII), but still that looks quite nice.

[Top Sergeant]

[QUOTE=rocket;4555407]Speaking of the Churchill...

Sweet!

[tomexe]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

Major spoiler on Battle of the Bulge movie included inside

Spoiler:

Thanks. Though I have to say that it looked to me that the Jagdtiger was having ease on climbing. Who knows, when the full episode is shown - the tiger might be shown to have trouble climbing. So your point about the tiger being heavy is valid too. There's a good chance the scriptwriters could go with the Jagdtiger being underpowered and thus have difficulty with the hill - they highlighted the problems of the Tiger P after all, in a previous episode.

Battle of the Bulge is an ok movie. Entertaining enough. Though what I find unbelievable is that a King Tiger can be disposed of using fuel drums.

On another topic. About the Churchill, I remember the story of Tiger 131 - only working Tiger 1 in the world today. That it's final battle was against Churchills. Shots from the Churchill tanks with 6 pounder guns were able to make the crew of Tiger 131 abandon their tank. Which leads me to believe that Darjeeling's Churchill with it's 6 pounder gun, does have a small chance against the Tiger 1's of Black Forest.

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If St Gloriana are smart they will stay with Mk IV Churchill with 6pdr Mk5 and the L/50 barrel. With either APCR (available October 43 and used to defend Anzio bridgehead) or APDS (available from March 1944), Churchill Mk4 had a range advantage over Tiger 1 and parity with Panther even with the tiny gun. Sadly the best Churchill hull is the 6" thick Mk7- which the British unwisely equipped with the QF 75mm that accepted US standard ammunition. The best Churchill gun and the best hull never served togeather.

[tomexe]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

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True. I guess I'm thinking that, as a Jagdtiger, it should be very slow climbing that slope. Then again, this is Girls und Panzer, where Churchills chase down Panzer IVs! So again your point is valid

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It shouldn't be trying to climb that hill at all! It has a range advantage of a couple kilometers over all the Oarai tanks including Tiger P. They should be trying to get on another hilltop to get a better angle on the defenders. Driving up the hill like that is helping the defenders by making the strike angle more oblique and the dirt berms are going to help deflect more of the shot high and over the tops of the defenders.
Maho brought all her L70/71 gun tanks and Tiger varients which suggests she intended to stay far away from Miho and not let her tanks get savaged in combat at point blank range, even if Jagdtiger is almost invulnerable to their guns, trying to get closer to them like that would normally be a mistake. What are they up to?

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by tomexe

If St Gloriana are smart they will stay with Mk IV Churchill with 6pdr Mk5 and the L/50 barrel. With either APCR (available October 43 and used to defend Anzio bridgehead) or APDS (available from March 1944), Churchill Mk4 had a range advantage over Tiger 1 and parity with Panther even with the tiny gun. Sadly the best Churchill hull is the 6" thick Mk7- which the British unwisely equipped with the QF 75mm that accepted US standard ammunition. The best Churchill gun and the best hull never served togeather.

There's nothing unwise about the British decision to go with a 75mm gun on the Churchill. Churchills are primarily infantry support tanks, so they would be shooting at non-tank targets the vast majority of the time. And so a larger-caliber gun with good HE rounds is preferable over a good anti-armor gun with less HE capability. The Soviets made the same choice to go with a 122mm gun instead of a 100mm gun on the IS-2.