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Kid Ryan · 2011-06-16, 21:50

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Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...kyo-law-listed

Surprise, surprise. This thing's actually targetting what was described instead of some vague bullshit formula. But this is still getting ridiculous.

As long as only those types of manga/anime are targeted, then I'm okay with that bill/law.

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Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

Ishihara's officially proved that he can get any more stupid than he is now.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...kan-responds/2

Yup, he's dumber than yogi bear.

-Breakthrough- · 2011-06-18, 02:36

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-anime-locales

Is it just my imagination or has Japan's national government been increasing the endorsement of anime/manga in tourism and other stuff since this Bill passed?

dvd-rmg · 2011-06-18, 03:22

Well a famous psychologist said something like this:

"The more christian they try to become, The more pagan they become".

Marcus H. · 2011-06-18, 03:59

Well, of course, Akihabara should not have become a booming district in Tokyo if not for the help of countless anime series depicting it, aside from its revenues. Same goes for the setting of K-ON, which despite being closed long ago, has been a HTT shrine.

Anime has been helping tourism so it's impossible that they would keep things like a restrictive bill from affecting the relations of the two sectors.

-Breakthrough- · 2011-06-20, 09:26

http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/ann/news/w...210620028.html

So according to Kanemitsu's twitter, Ishihara comments that Japan must become a Military Junta with nukes.

Damn, This guy is moronic beyond belief. There's no reasoning behind everything this idiot says.

dvd-rmg · 2011-06-20, 09:33

Seriously, He's repeatedly provoking divulgence to validate his career, he's not telling the truth entirely.

Dark Wing · 2011-06-20, 13:25

So sex is out but Violence is in talk about oppressing now I expect to see hentai start to become 10x more hardcore as a result or at least see a rise in sales...

Sister Princess · 2011-06-20, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/ann/news/w...210620028.html

So according to Kanemitsu's twitter, Ishihara comments that Japan must become a Military Junta with nukes.

Damn, This guy is moronic beyond belief. There's no reasoning behind everything this idiot says.

No nukes does make you look like a 'weak' country. Even for the sake of self defense.

Kameruka · 2011-06-20, 18:45

Its looks like some porn otakus used their political influence to attack on anime otakus. Ironically some live-action porno shows still on when they are clearing 'pornographic' anime.

Isegrim · 2011-06-21, 06:48

What do you expect from someone who has been an intimate friend of Yukio Mishima?

Kameruka · 2011-06-21, 09:01

What will happen to Kyoto Animation? As I knew that studio isn't based in Tokyo.

Vexx · 2011-06-21, 11:40

Nothing will "happen" to any company. They will simply have to look over their shoulder not having a clear notion of what is and isn't okay when creating works. None of KyoAni's works (thinking of Key here) have been controversial to "reasonable people" as they've always muted any sexual activity in source material and focused on the emotional relationships. And, of course, the comedy is well within boundaries.

asaqe · 2011-06-21, 21:32

It will however effectively blueball romantic relationships. Never going to the sexual territory thanks to Bill 156. This was an act of eliminating redundacy if anything as most "daytime" anime never have the couple going full intimate like in American teenage comics like Scott Pilgrim.

Xion Valkyrie · 2011-06-21, 22:44

Wait, one thing I don't quite get is, can't companies just publish outside of tokyo and sell it outside of Tokyo? This ordinance is only in effect for Tokyo right?

bhl88 · 2011-06-21, 22:47

Yeah, but most of their customers are in Tokyo.

Marcus H. · 2011-06-22, 00:25

Will this even be implemented?

Xion Valkyrie · 2011-06-22, 01:22

Maybe this will be the push to get mangaka to do online distribution and finally break free from the grip of conventional publishers.

Decagon · 2011-06-22, 02:12

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Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

Maybe this will be the push to get mangaka to do online distribution and finally break free from the grip of conventional publishers.

It's the convenience for the consumer the law would destroy. If the publishers are going to expect series to not get full exposure or have increased difficulty to market them, they might just opt for a 'safer' series to replace it that can get full exposure and won't get their weeklies or monthlies restricted, hurting the exposure for other series in the publication.

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Originally Posted by aohige

Japanese seinen magazines sold for mature older readers (20~40s) are sold at book stands, train station booths, and vending machines.
If they were to become labeled "adult only" then it would disappear from their usual places, where it's convenient for working class men to pick up when they're heading for work.
This would totally DESTROY the seinen market.
In order to avoid this, they would have to self-censor themselves, destroying the creative process. It's a lose-lose situation.

People outside of Japan don't get it because you have no visual understanding of how these market in Japan works.

Xion Valkyrie · 2011-06-22, 02:23

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Originally Posted by Decagon

It's the convenience for the consumer the law would destroy. If the publishers are going to expect series to not get full exposure or have increased difficulty to market them, they might just opt for a 'safer' series to replace it that can get full exposure and won't get their weeklies or monthlies restricted, hurting the exposure for other series in the publication.

Well, the cellphones in japan are pretty powerful aren't they? Mangaka that get dropped from magazines would now have incentives to self publish on the web if they don't want to self censor.

They'd be the ones pushing for the new 'alternative' digital market.

dvd-rmg · 2011-06-22, 04:25

Have faith, since we already produce a lot of series mostly from the last 3 decades, a lot of the new generation will find ways.

"Know the past, Think of the future."

Websites about issues on regulations and child pornography:

http://mitb.bufsiz.jp/
http://kill-the-assholes.jpn.org/

http://translate.google.com/translat...b.bufsiz.jp%2F
http://translate.google.com/translat...les.jpn.org%2F

2011-06-18, 03:59	Link #964
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2011-06-20, 13:25	Link #967
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2011-06-21, 11:40	Link #972
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Nothing will "happen" to any company. They will simply have to look over their shoulder not having a clear notion of what is and isn't okay when creating works. None of KyoAni's works (thinking of Key here) have been controversial to "reasonable people" as they've always muted any sexual activity in source material and focused on the emotional relationships. And, of course, the comedy is well within boundaries. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

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2011-06-18, 02:36	Link #962
-Breakthrough- ... Join Date: Aug 2006	http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-anime-locales Is it just my imagination or has Japan's national government been increasing the endorsement of anime/manga in tourism and other stuff since this Bill passed?

2011-06-18, 03:22	Link #963
dvd-rmg Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Well a famous psychologist said something like this: "The more christian they try to become, The more pagan they become".

2011-06-20, 09:26	Link #965
-Breakthrough- ... Join Date: Aug 2006	http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/ann/news/w...210620028.html So according to Kanemitsu's twitter, Ishihara comments that Japan must become a Military Junta with nukes. Damn, This guy is moronic beyond belief. There's no reasoning behind everything this idiot says.

2011-06-20, 09:33	Link #966
dvd-rmg Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Seriously, He's repeatedly provoking divulgence to validate his career, he's not telling the truth entirely.

2011-06-20, 18:45	Link #969
Kameruka Hen-Tie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hen-Tie pen	Its looks like some porn otakus used their political influence to attack on anime otakus. Ironically some live-action porno shows still on when they are clearing 'pornographic' anime.

2011-06-21, 09:01	Link #971
Kameruka Hen-Tie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hen-Tie pen	What will happen to Kyoto Animation? As I knew that studio isn't based in Tokyo.

2011-06-21, 22:44	Link #974
Xion Valkyrie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Wait, one thing I don't quite get is, can't companies just publish outside of tokyo and sell it outside of Tokyo? This ordinance is only in effect for Tokyo right?

2011-06-21, 22:47	Link #975
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2011-06-22, 00:25	Link #976
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Will this even be implemented? __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2011-06-22, 01:22	Link #977
Xion Valkyrie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Maybe this will be the push to get mangaka to do online distribution and finally break free from the grip of conventional publishers.

2011-06-22, 04:25	Link #980
dvd-rmg Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Have faith, since we already produce a lot of series mostly from the last 3 decades, a lot of the new generation will find ways. "Know the past, Think of the future." Websites about issues on regulations and child pornography: http://mitb.bufsiz.jp/ http://kill-the-assholes.jpn.org/ http://translate.google.com/translat...b.bufsiz.jp%2F http://translate.google.com/translat...les.jpn.org%2F Last edited by dvd-rmg; 2011-06-25 at 11:13.