2008-08-26, 06:30 | Link #2042 | |
Emotionless White Face
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And it's not only in this thread. The only post that I really blame is 'C.C. deserves to rot in hell.'. I would like to read threads filled with love, not hate. When I read something like that, or "kallen is a bitch", I'm not happy at all. If a person dislike a character, they can also avoid the thread of that particular character. Or at least, not write message like that. |
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2008-08-26, 06:32 | Link #2043 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Paris
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Spoiler for CC is a Goddess:
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2008-08-26, 06:34 | Link #2045 | |
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Land of Dead Cakes!
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I blame both, simply because they both reek of bias. Saying she deserves a pure happy ending is shallow. Favorite character or not, she has a price to pay just like every other character in this plot has paid. C.C. is a bitch, Kallen and Lelouch are mongers, Schneizel is a backstabber, everyone has a title they can be given, and most are justifiable since no character (that is still living) is pure. Last edited by Var; 2008-08-26 at 06:49. |
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2008-08-26, 06:35 | Link #2047 | |
Emotionless White Face
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BTW, what is a mongerer? |
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2008-08-26, 06:53 | Link #2049 |
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I think some people are missing the point of what the kid C.C showed us. The C.C we know is not the real C.C. It's a twisted, cursed personality that has suffered all kinds of torment and killed most of her feelings/soul/heart. She is another victim of Geass. Since she got a Geass C.C has suffered AND caused other people to suffer.
Killing C.C's code, her memories and immortality IS granting her wish. She gets to restart her life from when she was an innocent girl. She can then live the normal life she was denied. Grow up, make friends and one day fall in love with some guy,etc. All the things that the Geass denied her. Of course it will probably take a while for her to adjust to modern day life. She should be fine since Lelouch would take care of her like the kind big brother he is. That's the happiest ending I can see for her. The kid C.C gets to be happy, the immortal C.C dies. |
2008-08-26, 07:34 | Link #2052 | |
Lelouch Vi Britannia FTW
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In second meaning, monger means a person promoting something undesirable or discreditable. Thus, that makes Lelouch and Kallen warmongers...advocates of war. |
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2008-08-26, 07:39 | Link #2054 |
Lelouch Vi Britannia FTW
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Oh, I see. Thought you made a mistake.
*damn you...* Oh, and it will be bad if C.C will die as C.C.. She is much better than 10 years old C.C. That's why C.C should survive, better with immortality ( so that she can't have children). Most of fans like C.C. as C.C, not a 10 year old girl. |
2008-08-26, 07:45 | Link #2055 | |
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I'm of the impression that they already wrote off C.C.'s character at Ep.15, since the method with which they reintroduced her means that she was not forced into being removed from the plot by circumstances and did it herself. That is usually how a character is removed from the plot. In that time they gave us the original, uncorrupted person below C.C.. Her sudden reintroduction, in my opinion, is to wrap up her character. If you want to look at it from the romance angle, what they did with her from Ep.16 to Ep.20 made no sense, at least to me, because they were sacrificing ideal time for them to bond on a more personal level for... what? Shoddy development is shoddy. Her being immortal would just be a 'fuck you' to her character. She does not want to be immortal, and if she is, she's going to outlive Lelouch in the end, again. (note: I do not see Lelouch becoming immortal as that would make the ending rather... pointless. There's no suspense or drama if the main character cannot die.) |
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2008-08-26, 08:00 | Link #2056 | |
Lelouch Vi Britannia FTW
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In my opinion, with present level of science in CG, Geass can't be destroyed. The most it can do is to limit the number of people with Codes to one. But that one will be close to God ( or even surpass him). So Geass will exist. About C.C. being immortal, won't it make her ending both tragic and happy? If she will realize that immortality is not only a curse ( apart form not able to have children and watching you husband cheat on you and then die). It also gives you chance to watch the progress of humanity, and travel to distant stars~. And about Lelouch being immortal. I have no fucking idea what will it happen with him. Everything on this point seems as bad writing. It's zugzwang. Even though i want Lelouch to become immortal, it will remove most of tension, like you said. Lelouch staying mortal... Who get's the Code? C.C? Hm.. not a bad idea. Ok, Lelouch stays mortal and with geass. Fine by me. He can even kill C.C. ( if he will dare <.<) when she will be tired of him. But there goes my dream of childless immortal couple, in which husband will have to make kids with other women. Drama! Oh, and about Marianne, because she certainly could seal herself with Charles or take the Code. I don't think it will happen this way. I think she will just stay in Anya's body, enjoying the life. ( Ye-ye, that's very cruel to Anya, but i don't like saying "One death is tragedy, One Million a statistic) It's like semi-immortality. Or phenomenon. Like Marianne takes body of some person when...something interesting happens. So that she can enjoy it (eeeevil~). But it's not immortality as immortality( because she doesn't want it), she lives only in intervals of time ( I hope you get what I'm trying to say - her life is like that of Tatami from Melty Blood). So Marianne will just enjoy her life in new loli body. And help destroy Charles, who could ruin her plan by doing that God-destruction-thing. |
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2008-08-26, 08:31 | Link #2057 | ||||
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Geass has been shown to be destroyable. Jeremiah is living proof that Geass is not an ultimate. C.C. has shown that she can seal away her code (even with it being overly plot convenient). And Lelouch is not wrong in his assumption that sealing away the Codes in the Thought Elevators is one way of removing them from the world. Quote:
Geass ending next episode is hardly bad writing with where this plot has been going, which is Schneizel against Lelouch. Lelouch suddenly becoming immortal and subsequently failing his objective entirely would be bad writing since it renders all his actions in the past rather baseless, and the ending would be an utter bore. I wouldn't be half surprised if Charles' intention is to destroy the codes as well, since Geass is the root of the world's lies. He may be the one to destroy them and free Lelouch, for all we know. Quote:
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2008-08-26, 10:08 | Link #2058 | ||
Emotionless White Face
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She tried to save lelouch in 18. Now I think she will try to save him (with C.C.) in 21. About C.C., I still think that marianne knows what C.C.'s true wish is, and she teased her in 20 because the reason C.C. refused to die is that she has feelings for Lelouch. I will not quote the discussion between marianne and C.C. again but I think that Marianne will try to help Lelouch AND C.C.. So in 21, I think that Marianne and Charles will die, but not Lelouch and C.C... If someone wants to reply just to say that Marianne is a bitch, I will say that I don't care. |
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2008-08-26, 10:15 | Link #2060 | |
Kalulu YES WE CAN
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Her true wish supposedly is to be love. But if she knows it Then why did she violate it? I think marianne is talking about the death wish as she couldn't kill CC as she did not wish for immortality. That's why she asked why didn't she take Charles offer and CC answers i don't know. That's Why Marianya is mysterious i think CC is playing dumb on purpose is going to betray Marianya and her plans and save lelouch. Those are my thoughts at least. Though your point about Marianya does not make sense But if your talking about tomadachi Love i am down XD |
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