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Glexygoddness · 2017-06-14, 17:00

Lately old animes, even if they are good, have been sinking up due to the new animes and the increasing animation quality, will they sink more or end up remaked?

Destiny_Sword · 2017-06-15, 20:59

I would not have any thought, but i guess we would see some remakes from old anime since they still have good bases like their old days. Remake also good make the new comer to love the old anime.

Glexygoddness · 2017-06-16, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Destiny_Sword

I would not have any thought, but i guess we would see some remakes from old anime since they still have good bases like their old days. Remake also good make the new comer to love the old anime.

True, but sticking to the original anime the most possible seems a very hard task nowadays xD

RichardFromMarple · 2017-06-16, 14:19

Netflix have a few older anime series, including Cowbow Bebop & Trigun, so I'm guessing there is still a market for them.

Fvlminatvs · 2017-06-25, 12:12

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Originally Posted by RichardFromMarple

Netflix have a few older anime series, including Cowbow Bebop & Trigun, so I'm guessing there is still a market for them.

To me, that's not all that old. When I think old, I think the original Macross or Ranma 1/2.

Hulu, Funimation, Amazon, etc., seem to have the most popular (during their time) shows on some sort of cycle where they license a show for a while then it vanishes. Patlabor and its sequels/spin-offs used to be on Hulu but disappeared sometime last fall, for example.

I think some of it has to do with age. After Toonami, the anime fandom increased exponentially in size and most of the viewers were young kids. Now, the vast majority of the fanbase is below the age of 28, which means they've no real connection to older anime unless an older relative introduced it to them. Thus, the demand is for post-Toonami anime while older anime have been largely forgotten.

RichardFromMarple · 2017-06-25, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Fvlminatvs

To me, that's not all that old. When I think old, I think the original Macross or Ranma 1/2.

Hulu, Funimation, Amazon, etc., seem to have the most popular (during their time) shows on some sort of cycle where they license a show for a while then it vanishes. Patlabor and its sequels/spin-offs used to be on Hulu but disappeared sometime last fall, for example.

I think some of it has to do with age. After Toonami, the anime fandom increased exponentially in size and most of the viewers were young kids. Now, the vast majority of the fanbase is below the age of 28, which means they've no real connection to older anime unless an older relative introduced it to them. Thus, the demand is for post-Toonami anime while older anime have been largely forgotten.

Right I see, sometimes it depends how long some shows stay popular, both Dragonball (mostly Z) & Sailor Moon still seem to popular at shows I've been to recently, even with people too young to remember them. It helps they have had a few spin-offs to keep them in the public eye.

Fvlminatvs · 2017-06-26, 12:16

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Originally Posted by RichardFromMarple

Right I see, sometimes it depends how long some shows stay popular, both Dragonball (mostly Z) & Sailor Moon still seem to popular at shows I've been to recently, even with people too young to remember them. It helps they have had a few spin-offs to keep them in the public eye.

Yep. And that's a big shame that its only the super-popular ones. So highly influential but not entirely popular shows from the 1980s like Space Runaway Ideon can't be found on any legal streaming service. This also reduces awareness of the past.

kj1980 · 2017-07-14, 18:51

I'm pretty sure it's the same in the US but there are re-runs in Japan and with the advent of NetFlix in Japan, many people are exposed to older anime here. For example, you might see a re-run of Akagi episode on a TV channel dedicated to mahjong sessions, or re-runs of Ranma 1/2 on an anime channel/streaming service geared towards 30-40 something year-olds.

Considering that the US anime fanbase is in the early stages of that development, you might see shows like that on re-runs on services like NetFlix or dedicated cable/satellite channels, but probably for Naruto and DBZ or the sort 10-20 years from now as the nostalgia phase hits in for the current young generation who are watching and loving those shows now.

Then there's the age point where confounded with nostalgia, they may become interested in past works by the same studio or manga artist. Kids today watching Kyoukai no RINNE might become interested in Takahashi Rumiko's earlier works like Urusei Yatsura and Maison Ikkoku as they age. Perhaps they might have more disposable income to watch them.

At least that's the way it is in Japan. Many people never watched any Gundam until Gundam SEED for example, and because of that, many people went back to watch the original Gundam, Z, and ZZ. There are certainly people like that and there is definitely a market to cater towards the nostalgia market. Unfortunately, money talks, so knowing where the US and foreign anime market is at today, the biggest group right now is seemingly the younger teenagers and early 20 somethings who don't have much disposable income or have hit that nostalgia feel yet, henceforth, there's a lack of market for this.

But if there's no licensing, I guess the mantra is go start a fansub group geared toward 30-40 Millennials or into old anime. Preferably, start your own legal licensing company or video-sharing websites. Make a deal with current Japanese license holders for these old anime. Who knows.

Verso Sciolto · 2017-07-14, 20:14

The same is true for other media and quite a few efforts continue to be made to preserve older live action films, books and paintings etc as are made to preserve older anime as well - sometimes alongside, other times by dedicated companies, institutions or individuals. Initiatives from libraries to scan books and make them accessible online in scanned form are also subject to changes in technology to reproduce such older media. Given the overwhelming amount of books, films and anime it is not surprising that choices have to be made about what will be preserved first and how it will be made available to the general audience once transferred to digital storage formats....

Regarding age and what is considered older, this site has been referenced in similar context before:
http://animation.filmarchives.jp/index.html

DidCart · 2017-07-19, 20:06

I love "old" anime. I grew up among them, I started in this hobby among them and I will probably continue to go back to them with certain frequency. However, it is indeed quite hard to watch them nowadays.

The big streaming services rarely have them available, and when they do, there are just a handful of them. DVDs are quite rare as well, most of all if you need them subbed (like I believe most people do). Even if we consider the "alternative sources" it is becoming quite difficult to find old stuff.

With so many new anime being made, I kind of understand newer fans not feeling encouraged to search for older stuff.

However, I believe it is the natural way of things. If even old films are kind of a niche thing, old anime is even nichier.

2017-06-14, 17:00	Link #1
Glexygoddness Goddess of uselessness Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Mexico	Thoughts on the future of old animes Lately old animes, even if they are good, have been sinking up due to the new animes and the increasing animation quality, will they sink more or end up remaked? __________________

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kj1980 Gomen asobase desuwa! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 43	I'm pretty sure it's the same in the US but there are re-runs in Japan and with the advent of NetFlix in Japan, many people are exposed to older anime here. For example, you might see a re-run of Akagi episode on a TV channel dedicated to mahjong sessions, or re-runs of Ranma 1/2 on an anime channel/streaming service geared towards 30-40 something year-olds. Considering that the US anime fanbase is in the early stages of that development, you might see shows like that on re-runs on services like NetFlix or dedicated cable/satellite channels, but probably for Naruto and DBZ or the sort 10-20 years from now as the nostalgia phase hits in for the current young generation who are watching and loving those shows now. Then there's the age point where confounded with nostalgia, they may become interested in past works by the same studio or manga artist. Kids today watching Kyoukai no RINNE might become interested in Takahashi Rumiko's earlier works like Urusei Yatsura and Maison Ikkoku as they age. Perhaps they might have more disposable income to watch them. At least that's the way it is in Japan. Many people never watched any Gundam until Gundam SEED for example, and because of that, many people went back to watch the original Gundam, Z, and ZZ. There are certainly people like that and there is definitely a market to cater towards the nostalgia market. Unfortunately, money talks, so knowing where the US and foreign anime market is at today, the biggest group right now is seemingly the younger teenagers and early 20 somethings who don't have much disposable income or have hit that nostalgia feel yet, henceforth, there's a lack of market for this. But if there's no licensing, I guess the mantra is go start a fansub group geared toward 30-40 Millennials or into old anime. Preferably, start your own legal licensing company or video-sharing websites. Make a deal with current Japanese license holders for these old anime. Who knows. Last edited by kj1980; 2017-07-20 at 13:13.

2017-06-15, 20:59	Link #2
Destiny_Sword Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2017	I would not have any thought, but i guess we would see some remakes from old anime since they still have good bases like their old days. Remake also good make the new comer to love the old anime.

2017-06-16, 14:19	Link #4
RichardFromMarple Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Stockport UK	Netflix have a few older anime series, including Cowbow Bebop & Trigun, so I'm guessing there is still a market for them.

2017-07-14, 20:14	Link #9
Verso Sciolto Banned Join Date: Nov 2015	The same is true for other media and quite a few efforts continue to be made to preserve older live action films, books and paintings etc as are made to preserve older anime as well - sometimes alongside, other times by dedicated companies, institutions or individuals. Initiatives from libraries to scan books and make them accessible online in scanned form are also subject to changes in technology to reproduce such older media. Given the overwhelming amount of books, films and anime it is not surprising that choices have to be made about what will be preserved first and how it will be made available to the general audience once transferred to digital storage formats.... Regarding age and what is considered older, this site has been referenced in similar context before: http://animation.filmarchives.jp/index.html

2017-07-19, 20:06	Link #10
DidCart Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil	I love "old" anime. I grew up among them, I started in this hobby among them and I will probably continue to go back to them with certain frequency. However, it is indeed quite hard to watch them nowadays. The big streaming services rarely have them available, and when they do, there are just a handful of them. DVDs are quite rare as well, most of all if you need them subbed (like I believe most people do). Even if we consider the "alternative sources" it is becoming quite difficult to find old stuff. With so many new anime being made, I kind of understand newer fans not feeling encouraged to search for older stuff. However, I believe it is the natural way of things. If even old films are kind of a niche thing, old anime is even nichier.