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2012-10-24, 06:54 | Link #64 |
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Ah, this reminds me of that Ore no Imouto episode, during the Meruru cosplay contest. Ayase was attending and commented, "This is an anime for kids, right? Why are all these middle-aged men here?"
Even if a mahou shoujo is intended for the female audience, anime like Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura got lots of male viewers. Then uh, isn't Fairy Tail supposed to be a shounen anime? Lots of female viewers have very strong "feelings" for certain characters like Gray Fullbuster.
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2012-10-24, 15:27 | Link #65 |
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Periphery Demographic? I liked Sailor Moon back when I was a teen for obvious reasons.......*cough* fanservice *cough*. Still, I liked the show for its strong characterization, the plot and I really did enjoy the art style. I may not like shoujo as much as shonen but Sailor Moon is one of my favorite shows and even if it is one of the first anime I ever watched.
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2012-10-24, 15:53 | Link #66 |
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If a show has some cute girls in it -- I'm there ready to fap.
So here's the thing. Many of these series... appear to be aimed for girls... they're actually not -- or at the very least, "maybe". If anything, they actually attract the guys to watch -- for obvious reasons. Now, a real "girls series" would involve a lot of drama. And I mean, a lot. It's hard for me to remember some examples, because I actually go out of my way to avoid them. Yet, the first to come out of my head: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_(manga)
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2012-10-25, 07:14 | Link #68 | |
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As for the 'girls show' comment. Anime is anime with different styles, characters and plots. In my opinion every show is directed at a specific audience but it doesn't mean the opposite gender (Or whatever else) wont like it. If a show if directed women, does it automatically make it a 'girls show'? Nope, it just means women may like but more than men but men are free to test out that theory for themselves.
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2012-10-25, 08:40 | Link #70 | |
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For me, at least, its dependent on the context - does it contribute to the story line? If it doesn't then, its as annoying as two people of any gender groping on the subway.
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2012-10-27, 21:08 | Link #71 | |
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2012-10-28, 05:50 | Link #72 |
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It's cultural.
Go to Rock Paper Shotgun or other American gaming blogs and look at reviews of indie Japanese games like Recettear, Fairy Bloom Freesia, stuff like that. Look at the comments section. Nine out of ten comments will be some Internet tough-guy spewing profanity about "girly Japanese shit." This is America, where it's not fit for masculine consumption unless it's dark, brooding, gritty, blood-spattered and has a color palette containing every shade of brown imaginable. In America, it's "girly" unless the lead is a male, hypermasculine muscle-bound wall of meat with a gun in each hand and a DD-cup, impossibly-proportioned supermodel in his lap. Westerners don't get the moe aesthetic very well, unless they're already entrenched in the anime/manga fandom. As a woman, I really wish this stupid stereotype would go the hell away--I'd love to see more cute in Western media. And less brown. Please, there are more colors than brown--use them. Far Cry was colorful as hell--did it make your testicles shrivel up and drop off? (Please, for the love of ALL THAT IS HOLY, give me an MMORPG with K-MMO/JRPG art style, moe aesthetics--at least one of the races, or give me enough sliders to make my characters cute--but a minimally-grindy Western-style PvE endgame with limited RNG. I WILL THROW MONEY AT YOU IF YOU DO THIS.)
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2012-10-28, 11:22 | Link #73 | |
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2012-10-28, 13:00 | Link #74 | |
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2012-10-28, 13:44 | Link #75 | |
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But Tiger & Bunny does not have yaoi undertones. Yes I know there is a huge yaoi following of the series and I think merchandise (and maybe some magazine articles) played it up a bit, but the actual series I don't see it at all. Kotetsu and Barnaby are friends. If anything Kotetsu is like an older brother to Barnaby who I think really needed someone to look after him after really relying on himself for so long. I mean I am not bothered when a fangirl wants to see yaoi in a close male friendship if they enjoy it. But I don't understand when people who don't like yaoi see it when it is clearly not even there. Men can be shown to be close and you don't have to automatically assume they are pandering to fujoshi.
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2012-10-28, 16:24 | Link #76 |
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That game is grindy as hell and Korean and P2W. I can get that easily enough with Aion with more pretty-shiny.
What I'm talking about is this: - The graphics and art styles similar to games like Aion, TERA, FFXIV - The no-target, Monster Hunter-esque combat from Vindictus and TERA - The progressive, strong, low-grind, low-RNG endgame, like FFXI or WoW - Strong PvP content, like Guild Wars - Story-driven questlines, like SWTOR - Tons of roleplay tools, like the musical instruments from LOTRO, the massive emote library from EQ2 and integrated things like WoW's My Roleplay UI mod Mash all of this together and I WILL THROW MONEY AT YOU UNTIL YOU ARE BURIED SIX FEET DEEP. ... my apologies for going so far off-topic.
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But as to your yaoi question, I have literally NEVER had a yaoi show reccomended to me, but if someone told me that X Yaoi show was the Yaoi version of Madoka or the Yaoi version of Narutaru, I would give it a try. I must say though that explicit sex in anime/manga tends to be, IMO, extremely squicky whether it is heterosexual or homosexual or zoosexual. Spoiler for FrankTalkAboutAnimeSex:
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Most anime/moe MMORPGS are like Ragnarok Online or Maplestory (a.k.a. cesspools of human nature and bad, addictive, gameplay design that relies on the aesthetic to hold people's attention) . I say this as someone who was badly addicted to Maplestory way back in high school. Good MMOs, let alone ones whose aesthetics don't make your eyes bleed and whose plots aren't unreadably bad, are almost non-existent.
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2012-10-29, 18:05 | Link #79 |
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Exactly - lost potential income because both sides of the Pacific are stuck in a rut concerning MMOs. A merger of best practices would be win.
OTOH, Secret World's challenging story content and "research required" quests ( I now have a Morse Code audio translator app on my phone ) seem to be too hard for general audiences. Oh the screams and anger when people who got gold stars for breathing all day encounter a quest that mandates googling up 17th Century artists
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2012-10-29, 18:17 | Link #80 | |
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This same problem occurs in pop music, hollywood, most forms of popular art. But it's especially pronounced with MMOs.
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