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***relentlessflame*** · 2013-01-13, 03:20

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NoemiChan · 2013-01-13, 04:35

At least one was accepted.

Lets get started.

Squealer, I never thought he would be that important until now. I thought he was just the "side kick" of that possum or fox, forgot his name but, man.. he becomes more irritating and interesting at the same time. He is very smart and very manipulative....

I becoming anxious whenever I see him... He always seems to be going to the bad side.

kuromitsu · 2013-01-13, 14:48

The more I think about Squealer the more I like him. As a villain, he's reaching almost Shakespearean heights, and he's definitely one of the most intersting characters, if not the most interesting.

LuxorMG · 2013-01-13, 19:38

Well now I wouldn't call him Shakespearean just yet, but he certainly has the potential to be one of the most fascinating characters this year.

Arkeus · 2013-01-14, 23:51

Squealer's definitely less interesting than most other characters like Satory or Shun or Yomiko. (And obviously saki, who is awesome).

He is, however, the first real 'Antagonist' we see. All other characters we saw were just part of the machine, or simply trying to cope as best as they could.

Squealer, though.... well, watching him being his Evil, Evil assholish self is going to pull at my heartstrings.

MeoTwister5 · 2013-01-15, 00:04

I don't think he's evil, but I don't think he's good either. His actions don't look close to any sort of malevolence as, from what we can see, he's doing it truly for the betterment of his colony's prosperity. At the same time, he's not above doing certain things some POVs might see as evil if it is necessary, as with their treatment of their former queen.

Raviel · 2013-01-15, 00:22

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

I don't think he's evil, but I don't think he's good either. His actions don't look close to any sort of malevolence as, from what we can see, he's doing it truly for the betterment of his colony's prosperity. At the same time, he's not above doing certain things some POVs might see as evil if it is necessary, as with their treatment of their former queen.

I have to agree that he isn't necessarily evil, but he's had a taste of power and now he definitely wants more of it.

He's more an overly ambitious politician then anything else. (Of course we all know what overly ambitious politicians can do

)

MeoTwister5 · 2013-01-15, 00:31

He's closer to the observation of how power corrupts, especially for those who aren't prepared when they get it.

Unless of course, this has been his intention all along.

Arkeus · 2013-01-15, 02:04

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

He's closer to the observation of how power corrupts, especially for those who aren't prepared when they get it.

Unless of course, this has been his intention all along.

That's how he has been portrayed in the anime, at least. He was always about manipulating the ones above him in order to get more power, and if things get rough run away and save his own hide.

He is the perfect example of a smart, ambitious man who not only lobotomize his enemies for more power, but recognize he needs to better his people's over-all power if his ambitions could work.

Kheve · 2013-01-19, 09:26

Well he isnt really a villian per se.

NoemiChan · 2013-01-19, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Kheve

Well he isnt really a villian per se.

He's a good example of an adverse reaction of democracy.

AvatarST · 2013-01-19, 17:09

Squealer is seriously unnerving. He's very manipulative and seems like he's not above doing whatever it takes, no matter how horrible, to fulfill his objectives.

What I'm not sure of is if his objectives are just attaining more power and glory for himself, or he's doing it for his people. Both ways, his methods are really questionable...

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-01-20, 02:39

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Originally Posted by AvatarST

Squealer is seriously unnerving. He's very manipulative and seems like he's not above doing whatever it takes, no matter how horrible, to fulfill his objectives.

What I'm not sure of is if his objectives are just attaining more power and glory for himself, or he's doing it for his people. Both ways, his methods are really questionable...

Against the esper society? nah....the only people you can sympathize with here are Group One. Squealer's no more horrible than the villagers

Kirarakim · 2013-01-27, 10:16

It's early in the year but as of now he is competing with Makashima (from Psycho Pass) as the best villain/antagonist of the year.

Repelsteeltju · 2013-01-27, 10:20

You all mad? Yakomaru is the HERO destined to end decades of molerat slavery. He will tear those false gods from their pedestal, he and his people shall inherit the earth while simultaneously ending the corruption of the land caused by the overflowing uncontrolled cantuspowers of those who call themselves human.

Because really; shouldn't all intelligent individuals be given equal rights?

Kirarakim · 2013-01-27, 10:31

Yakomaru is in no way a hero. I am not saying the humans are treating the queerrats right. I never said the queerats themselves were villains, I also see them as victims.
but that is a separate issue from Yakomaru.

Yakomaru will do anything to get what he wants and not just manipulate the humans but also turn on his own kind. I don't think Yakomaru necessarily cares about the rights of his kind, from what I see he only cares about himself and his own hide. He's despicable in every way.

NoemiChan · 2013-01-27, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Repelsteeltju

You all mad? Yakomaru is the HERO destined to end decades of molerat slavery.

Yakomaru would have been a Hero if he have a word of honor and not a complete liar and a hypocrite.

Ringil · 2013-01-27, 12:19

You don't need to be honorable to be a hero :P. On the other hand, Yakomaru is clearly the creepiest guy ever.

Shadow5YA · 2013-01-27, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Ringil

You don't need to be honorable to be a hero :P. On the other hand, Yakomaru is clearly the creepiest guy ever.

I think part of that is because of his face/body. Had Squealer been a bishounen instead of an ugly bakenezumi, the reactions would be quite different.

kuromitsu · 2013-01-27, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I think part of that is because of his face/body. Had Squealer been a bishounen instead of an ugly bakenezumi, the reactions would be quite different.

Dunno, he would be still a creepy guy. Just, you know, a pretty one.

Creepy bishounen aren't particularly rare...

2013-01-13, 19:38	Link #4
LuxorMG ItadakiMAKO Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York City	Well now I wouldn't call him Shakespearean just yet, but he certainly has the potential to be one of the most fascinating characters this year. __________________

2013-01-15, 00:04	Link #6
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	I don't think he's evil, but I don't think he's good either. His actions don't look close to any sort of malevolence as, from what we can see, he's doing it truly for the betterment of his colony's prosperity. At the same time, he's not above doing certain things some POVs might see as evil if it is necessary, as with their treatment of their former queen. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2013-01-15, 00:31	Link #8
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	He's closer to the observation of how power corrupts, especially for those who aren't prepared when they get it. Unless of course, this has been his intention all along. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2013-01-19, 17:09	Link #12
AvatarST ◕‿‿◕ Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Argentina Age: 39	Squealer is seriously unnerving. He's very manipulative and seems like he's not above doing whatever it takes, no matter how horrible, to fulfill his objectives. What I'm not sure of is if his objectives are just attaining more power and glory for himself, or he's doing it for his people. Both ways, his methods are really questionable... __________________

2013-01-27, 10:16	Link #14
Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	It's early in the year but as of now he is competing with Makashima (from Psycho Pass) as the best villain/antagonist of the year. __________________ Twitter MAL

2013-01-13, 04:35	Link #2
NoemiChan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Age: 36	At least one was accepted. Lets get started. Squealer, I never thought he would be that important until now. I thought he was just the "side kick" of that possum or fox, forgot his name but, man.. he becomes more irritating and interesting at the same time. He is very smart and very manipulative.... I becoming anxious whenever I see him... He always seems to be going to the bad side.

2013-01-13, 14:48	Link #3
kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	The more I think about Squealer the more I like him. As a villain, he's reaching almost Shakespearean heights, and he's definitely one of the most intersting characters, if not the most interesting.

2013-01-14, 23:51	Link #5
Arkeus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Squealer's definitely less interesting than most other characters like Satory or Shun or Yomiko. (And obviously saki, who is awesome). He is, however, the first real 'Antagonist' we see. All other characters we saw were just part of the machine, or simply trying to cope as best as they could. Squealer, though.... well, watching him being his Evil, Evil assholish self is going to pull at my heartstrings.

2013-01-19, 09:26	Link #10
Kheve Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	Well he isnt really a villian per se.

2013-01-27, 10:20	Link #15
Repelsteeltju DRRR!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Netherlands	You all mad? Yakomaru is the HERO destined to end decades of molerat slavery. He will tear those false gods from their pedestal, he and his people shall inherit the earth while simultaneously ending the corruption of the land caused by the overflowing uncontrolled cantuspowers of those who call themselves human. Because really; shouldn't all intelligent individuals be given equal rights?

2013-01-27, 10:31	Link #16
Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Yakomaru is in no way a hero. I am not saying the humans are treating the queerrats right. I never said the queerats themselves were villains, I also see them as victims. but that is a separate issue from Yakomaru. Yakomaru will do anything to get what he wants and not just manipulate the humans but also turn on his own kind. I don't think Yakomaru necessarily cares about the rights of his kind, from what I see he only cares about himself and his own hide. He's despicable in every way. __________________ Twitter MAL

2013-01-27, 12:19	Link #18
Ringil Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	You don't need to be honorable to be a hero :P. On the other hand, Yakomaru is clearly the creepiest guy ever.