2010-11-23, 12:24 | Link #81 | ||
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I don't really see that. It isn't moe so that's a plus from my perspective.
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Although his output has been the opposite of that (to be fair he didn't work on the majority of Lucky Star which pandered like hell), it takes someone to realise there is a problem before something can be done about it. |
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2010-11-23, 13:11 | Link #82 |
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I adore the character designs. If someone showed me this image and didn't tell me where it came from, I would have mistaken it for an anime that came out many years ago.
The emphasis on fanservice and moe and whatever else describes recent anime really turn me off. It's been a long time since I've been excited about a new anime title, and it feels great. |
2010-11-23, 17:27 | Link #85 | |||
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sometimes I wonder how people decide whether the visual aspect of a work is "moe" or not. I think the quote defines well the ambiguity of the term. personally, defining an artwork (or in this case the character designs) as moe is unfair and often misjudged. There are things in the visual aspect that work, regardless of stylization and personal values, which are not addressed by the simple mention of the word. Quote:
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what makes the artwork retro, though? I'm willing to bet that Fractal will be anything except retro, but I can be wrong until we see a PV or more pictures. |
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2010-11-23, 17:53 | Link #86 |
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Without rehashing the old debate, I was no fan of Lucky Star (no offense to those who are) or Haruhi either for that matter, and I loved Kannagi. I don't think it pandered at all and it managed to be full of meta-humor while still being extremely accessible. It stands as one of the smartest and most well-crafted series of the last few years as far as I'm concerned. Based on that if nothing else, I'll give any Yamakan series a chance no matter what I think of the premise - and I take his comments about the state of the industry seriously.
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2010-11-24, 13:14 | Link #89 |
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Admittedly, I was throwing the term "moe" around carelessly, and you're right: moe is in the eye of the beholder. When I see images from anime like K-on and Angel Beats, I think "ugh, looks moe". Whether or not it turns into one of those titles that I think looks "moe", I obviously can't say for sure. However, judging by all the images I've seen of Fractal and by what Washi said ("he's been pretty driven to try and challenge the anime industry with works that don't just fall into the otaku niche but reach a wider audience without relying on pandering to fans"), I think it's reasonable to believe that Fractal won't place significant emphasis on fanservice and what have you because I would interpret that as "pandering to fans".
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2010-12-03, 22:27 | Link #90 |
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1. Over the past year or so, I've loved just about everything Kobayashi Yuu has done: Rio in Sora no Woto, Meiren in Vampire Bund, Matabei in Hyakka Ryouran, even the male lead in Okami Kakushi. But then again, I don't think it's a bad thing for a seiyuu to be recognizable (e.g., Sawashiro Miyuki). I think it's worse for a seiyuu to be so professional they just fade out and contribute nothing beyond the "right" voice for a character.
2. There is no way Yamakan is going to retire. His career is just getting started. I believe he contributed a lot to Haruhi, but he wasn't the actual director. He only did four episodes of Lucky Star. Kannagi was good but not great; it lost direction as it went on, for me. I think he has more in him. Hopefully this is that. To me, what Yamakan has is a flair for motion and music, and a smart sense of humor. He needs a good writer, and I think Okada Mari (true tears, Toradora, Zakuro) has a chance to provide that. 3. I think the character design looks great: full and expressive. I do worry, however, that it's so detailed that it will be hard to keep the standard up through a whole series.
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2010-12-04, 03:05 | Link #91 | |
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2010-12-04, 03:16 | Link #92 | |
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When KyoAni promoted him to director for Lucky Star, and he showed that he was almost completely incompetent at the job, he left the company and began to produce his own mediocre anime. I think this says something, but honestly I've never been a huge fan of his. |
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2010-12-04, 07:19 | Link #93 | |
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Regardless of what you think of Kannagi, it was competently directed, with no major mishaps and good quality and design choices overall. The impression I get of Yamakan is more that he's an interesting person who has a lot of creative input to offer anime, but isn't perhaps the best director around. But we'll see what happens with Fractale. All I can say is, I'm glad he's no longer with KyoAni and is able to do his own works.
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2010-12-04, 08:03 | Link #95 | |
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2010-12-04, 10:39 | Link #96 |
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I don't believe this has been mentioned yet so, I came across the noitaminA English site (at least that's what I think it is) and it lists Fractal at 11 episodes.
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2010-12-04, 17:09 | Link #97 | |
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What she really excels at would be the sensitive character moments and interactions. True Tears showed this off the best, but her own episodes on Red Garden and Kita e: Diamond Dust Drops were also delightful. These character oriented parts are exceptionally paced and written, which may have earned her the good reputation and busy workload she currently enjoys (well, the latter probably has more to do with the commercial successes of her Toradora! and Kuroshitsuji adaptations). .....which may be why opinions on Okada are so polarized. Viewers who really value well done character moments are quite thrilled, while those who prioritize the actual content aren't particularly impressed yet. Okada's other strength is adaptation. Toradora! was an incredible feat - light novels compressed into two episodes apiece while remaining coherent and emotionally convincing (as much as possible within the limitations anyway). However, while adaptation is the bread and butter of the industry these days, I don't tend to attribute the content to the person handling the adaptation. Good work proves that he/she excels at reworking content into a show, but it doesn't prove their ability to create. And adaptation works multiple ways. You can do a great job adapting a bad source that no one likes....that's a commendable result. Or you can do a half-hearted job adapting a great source, yet people still enjoy the final show because the core material is so good. For that reason, pedigree in adaptation can only gauge how well they adapt, and little more. |
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2010-12-05, 19:34 | Link #98 | |
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In this case, I have belatedly discovered that the story is by cultural critic and Murakami Takashi associate Azuma Hiroki, so it will be a matter of how Okada Mari develops the basic story he provides. No doubt Yamakan is also involved at all stages of this process.
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2010-12-06, 23:24 | Link #99 |
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I kinda did more research on Yamakan, and I finally understand why he always gets spotlight on everything. Basically, every part that made Kyoani interesting, unique and creative before lucky star was almost entirely directed and edited by Yamakan. The reason he left Kyoani was not because he suck. It was actually due to the higher staffs including Ishihara, who always persisted on following the original story 'strictly', and Yamakan was against it, which resulted on his firing. The major change in style of Kyoani after lucky star (including endless eight..;;;...) was solely due to Yamakan and his 10 other young follower's leaving.
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2010-12-07, 00:48 | Link #100 | |
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I have high hopes for this anime, but not necessarily high expectations.
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