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2012-11-14, 17:41 | Link #3263 |
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Correct. The basic hardware hasn't changed at all (highly malleable, rewireable platform of organic computing). It all depends on how you train it (and since it is quite re-wireable, you can even fix most miswiring -- calcified ideologies, obsolete assertions, etc)
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2012-11-14, 18:14 | Link #3266 | ||
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I hope that were true but sadly I think that the reason the number of people that voted republican in the presidential election will decrease (if you remove the swing voters) mostly due to death or lack of motivation. I would be very happy if USA citizens started to ask their elected politicians to do what is needed and not what their lobby interests want them to do but for that your statement would need to be true in the majority of the cases. |
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2012-11-14, 18:26 | Link #3267 |
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Well they already have a theory for a possible Faster than Light drive. But 50 years sounds about right (even though I'd rather it be sooner).
Assuming we don't do something stupid to the nations of the world by then...it will likely be rather political once a nation has the ability to go from Earth to Mars in a matter of minutes. Fortunately that's not an election year.
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2012-11-14, 18:42 | Link #3269 |
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Arthur C. Clarke was probably more optimistic with 2001: A Space Odyssey. The novel was about a large manned space probe to Saturn. The movie changed it to Jupiter because we had real images of Jupiter from the Pioneer probes by then, but not yet Saturn.
And I'm still upset we don't have that sort of space commerse happening today. We are just starting on it now with the likes of Virgin Galactic (tourism), SpaceX (cargo hauling), and others that are getting into hotels in orbit and mining of asteroids. That and that we don't yet have actual "spaceships". Just spacecraft with the Space Shuttle being the closest thing to a spaceship we had in service. The computer revolution probably has the computing power of the HAL9000 beat already, just without the personality (or quirks) to go with it. Of course if 2010 was correct, the President quoting Lincoln and with his finger "on the button" would have been Obama. A nice thing to not have to have a stand off with the Soviet Union (or even just Russia) in this day and age. Maybe again someday, but not yet.
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2012-11-14, 20:28 | Link #3270 |
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Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-young-voters/ It's always easier to blame someone else than to look at oneself.
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2012-11-14, 20:59 | Link #3271 |
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When I went into engineering in the 70s, I fully expected to visit Mars or possibly an asteroid before I died. That was the speed and focus we had. And it was easily affordable, yes, affordable. We just "chose" to spew incomprehensible chunks of cash into black holes, war, and the pockets of a few billionaires who would rather eliminate jobs, wealth, and options for most of the world's population.
Kyp is right in that the engineering challenges are *hard* problems - but its more a matter of focus when it comes to the projected timelines than the hardness.
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2012-11-14, 21:38 | Link #3273 | ||
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I really hope he moves to some virgin island somewhere...maybe he can take Glenn Beck with him.
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2012-11-14, 21:48 | Link #3275 | |
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In ancient greece politicians were held accountable at the end of their tenure for what they promised in campaign. I am surprised no one has started a report card website for politicians where average joe can see what every politician have promised in their campaign and what percentage have they fulfilled at the end of it. That is what should define a successful politician, one that keeps his/her promises (we don't care if he/she has to sell his soul and/or body to do it), not how much money can he/she raise for the campaign or how many followers his/her facebook account has. |
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2012-11-14, 21:58 | Link #3277 |
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Browsing the sites some of my relatives frequent -- it seems they're thinking that Obama won because "everyone who gets a government check" voted for him.
They don't sound quite clear on all that social security, medicare, corporate subsidy, stuff ... in other words, still incoherent.
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2012-11-14, 22:38 | Link #3278 | |
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Even Romney admits that GOP offers only tax cut to the rich. And that this is why they believe they couldn't "attract the 47%". Romney knows the GOP's policy is direct bribery of the 53% by cutting taxes, so they have no leg to stand on in claiming they don't throw gifts around.
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2012-11-14, 22:51 | Link #3279 |
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The thing is, everyone gets "welfare" from the government. It's not just a poor people thing. To blame the government for bribing the population is silly, especially when things have been quite nice if you're rich...historically speaking.
But both the winners and losers will rationalize what happened, and so it will go until the next election. I'm not too worried about all of the blaming going around, but I am pretty sure that certain prominent figures in the GOP are about to be suddenly marginalized. Or as I like to say, given the Bush treatment. And of course, the big donors are furious. They emptied their pockets...for what exactly? I really doubt they'll be so eager to open them up again in 2014 or even 2016.
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2012-11-14, 23:21 | Link #3280 |
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I'm still kind of amused we haven't seen Karl Rove "disappeared" for a long ride to deep water. He cost some powerful people a lot of money they could have used to pay some overdue taxes.
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