(L) Saki manga

[cynicalicious]

Originally Posted by Flyvedelta

can't.see.the.pics ;_;

Then just look at this blog link. It'll give you the same info. (It's just in Japanese.)

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/katsu666/e/4d3...c6ba1802941be2

[Peanutbutter]

Originally Posted by cynicalicious

Okay, but it's actually about future episodes past 19...

Spoiler for Episodes 20-23, manga spoilers as well.:

The grainy photo on 2chan is actually a scan of the descriptions of episodes 20-23 of the anime. (And it's in bad shape, but kind of/sort of legible if you squint.)

Anyway, according to the descriptions of episodes 20-23, and based on the discussion about it on 2chan and one of the blogs, the future arc of the anime is going to focus on the individual tournament, as well as some anime-original characters in the individual tournament. The Kiyosumi players will be competing in the tournament, so that's leading to speculation that maybe Kiyosumi won't win the team tournament.

EDIT: So much for *that* speculation. lol. But it does look like the anime will focus on the individual tourney.

Of course, it has also led to rampant speculation that the anime-original stuff is going to suck. As is usual from rampant speculation. lol. Naturally, whenever you drive off of the map, people get nervous.

Here's the link to the blog, which also has the original 2chan discussion, and the grainy as all hell episode teasers. All in Japanese, of course.

http://yunakiti.blog79.fc2.com/blog-entry-3590.html

Looks like episode 20 is going to be called "Shimai" (sisters) and is going to take place at a pool. (What a surprise.) The rest are all related to the individual tournament.

Looks like ep 21 is called 追想 (tsuisou), or retrospection. (Where the individual tournament starts.)

Ep. 22 is called "Yakusoku" (promise), and 23 is "Honki" (serious). I could try to read them more closely, but I like my eyes not bleeding.

Spoiler for Adding on:

Translating from what I got from Baidu.

Ep 20 - End of team tournament, Kiyosumi in the pool.

Ep 21 - Individual tournament starts. New characters who didn't participate in the team tournament will make their appearances. Kiyosumi in high spirits.

Ep 22 - Second day of individual tournament. Mihoko, Yumi and others who shined in the team tournament slowly won their way up. A mysterious character from an unknown new high school appears.

Ep 23 - Hisa wasn't really concerned with the individual tournament, but because of someone she's facing, she decides to be serious about it.

[Bambi]

Maybe you should post this translation (in spoiler tag) to anime thread too, it's information about anime. I already mentioned this scan here so you can continue

[tjalorak]

Hahaha. As soon as I heard the rule about rinshan kaihou, I KNEW it was going to come up somewhere.

As for Saki, if she can do it, why not? It's a pretty unique play style and very hard to defend against.

[Proto]

Personally I hate it. It is totally hack luck based, and abuses the protagonist advantage to no end. At least with Akagi you could see the reasoning, the mental manipulations going on behind his every move. Even though there were many instances were luck favored him he was never a one trick phony, always adapting to the situation at hand. Maybe that's why I find Yumi's character more compelling than her table companions.

[cynicalicious]

Here's a couple more blogs of c52, with more pictures. (And a cover of an Ikeda doujin. Poor Ikeda. Everyone loves to see her get beat up, it seems.)

http://u7se1218.cocolog-nifty.com/bl...8/-s-05d5.html
http://beatarai.blog90.fc2.com/blog-entry-1490.html

As much as I like Saki as a character, I prefer Nodoka's and Yumi's playing styles, because they're more grounded in reality. (And wouldn't make a statistician drink drain cleaner.)

I also like Hisa's style, because it's based on screwing with the minds of everyone at the table. If you look at the stats of everyone in the tournament, Fukuji did the best overall with +42,000, but Hisa was right there with +39,100 in second place. (And Hisa didn't have the "All-Seeing Eye.")

She just picked bad waits, got a little lucky, and suckered in poor lil' first-year Bundou-san into going for it at every bad opportunity.

[tjalorak]

Originally Posted by Proto

Personally I hate it. It is totally hack luck based, and abuses the protagonist advantage to no end. At least with Akagi you could see the reasoning, the mental manipulations going on behind his every move. Even though there were many instances were luck favored him he was never a one trick phony, always adapting to the situation at hand. Maybe that's why I find Yumi's character more compelling than her table companions.

Kana plays pretty normally too. She's just good at working her hands around doras.

As for hack luck based, we knew since ep. 4 that Saki knows all the tiles in the dead wall just as Koromo knows the last tile in the wall.

I'm just wondering how people can have yakuman specialties... Maybe they know where the terminal and honors are in a wall?

[Peanutbutter]

Originally Posted by Proto

Personally I hate it. It is totally hack luck based, and abuses the protagonist advantage to no end. At least with Akagi you could see the reasoning, the mental manipulations going on behind his every move. Even though there were many instances were luck favored him he was never a one trick phony, always adapting to the situation at hand. Maybe that's why I find Yumi's character more compelling than her table companions.

That's why Saki and Koromo are class "monsters".

[Proto]

That's no monster. That's just ridding the game

Kana plays pretty normally too. She's just good at working her hands around doras.

Yeah but she's the type that just worries about making her hand while avoiding playing into other hands, which leaves out much of the psychological aspect of the game. As Akagi himself said, Mahjong isn't about having big hands or having many points, but about taking those points from your opponents.

[metronome]

now I know how to watch this already:
once u reach round 5, always expect the impossible, eg yakuman 10 times etc:P.

I think beside saki, koromo, and that invisible girl, others playstyle/abilities could happen in real life for now.
even that invisible girl is actually kind of true too in real game, sometimes u play for long time and u ignore someone's presence, especially if that guy always throw something useless, it happens more often after u play like 6+ hours mahjong (but of course not as exagerrated like in this story)

[metronome]

Watched ep 19

Spoiler:

HEY, Yumi's hand is 13 orphan! Now I like her even more! but she doesnt go take the 1 pin

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by metronome

Watched ep 19

Spoiler:

HEY, Yumi's hand is 13 orphan! Now I like her even more! but she doesnt go take the 1 pin

She was one tile away from tenpai, she lacked one of winds too.

Anyway, bah, looks like all Japanese with scanner and internet connection are on holidays

[Peanutbutter]

An interesting tidbit I picked up on Baidu:

Spoiler for Ryuumonbuchi's performance in the previous year's national championships:

According to the mangaka, they were crushed by Jindai, supposely another monster listed by Fujita.

This will be explored further in future "extra chapters".

Does the mangaka has a blog? Apparently from there, it seems it does. What's the link?

[Proto]

It might also be interesting to see how didd Kazekoshi performed there too, though having that tidbit of information is useful. Thanks, pB!

[tjalorak]

Originally Posted by Peanutbutter003

An interesting tidbit I picked up on Baidu:

Spoiler for Ryuumonbuchi's performance in the previous year's national championships:

According to the mangaka, they were crushed by Jindai, supposely another monster listed by Fujita.

This will be explored further in future "extra chapters".

Does the mangaka has a blog? Apparently from there, it seems it does. What's the link?

Yup. Kagoshima's Jindai was listed as a monster in ep. 4 by Fujita-pro. Her shadow also pops up in ep. 11 or so when Hisa has a flashback to her talk with Haramura on certain monstrous players.

Whoo. That's interesting! Guess Jindai will be a mini-boss before the final boss of Teru.

[Proto]

Personally I would prefer them to be at the finals as well. Saki is fun because it is an ffa instead of the cliched to death anime 1v1.

[Peanutbutter]

Finally I got my hands on a chinese translated Ch 52, thanks to the translator I've been keeping an eye on. Damn, his work is fast.

Spoiler for image:

Ch 52 ends with Saki declaring 32,000 pts for the win.

[cynicalicious]

Raw's out as well. Finally.

Not much to see, really... well, I'll take that back for one thing-- Saki isn't grinning like an idiot in every panel like she does in the anime. She has a good game face on pages 12-13.

[tjalorak]

Originally Posted by cynicalicious

Raw's out as well. Finally.

Not much to see, really... well, I'll take that back for one thing-- Saki isn't grinning like an idiot in every panel like she does in the anime. She has a good game face on pages 12-13.

X________________

The seriousness of Saki's game face in that page makes it more dramatic similar to ep. 18 as opposed to, well, the anime in ep. 19. The anime made me laugh though mainly because Saki looks like she took the wrong turn and it's a mahou shoujo reveal scene slashed with a demented mahjong demon face. Makes her look like a psycho axe murderer except instead of killing people, she kills mahjong players' dreams. With a smile.

[Bambi]

My thoughts, they overdone it way too much in anime.

I hope manga will now focus on some aftermath instead of sweat things like anime. I'll welcome some decent ceremony (wtf was that in anime) and I don't believe journalists will leave them without word .... but maybe I'm hopeless optimist.