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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 30 | |||
10: Amazing... | 6 | 15.00% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 12 | 30.00% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 11 | 27.50% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 8 | 20.00% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 2 | 5.00% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 1 | 2.50% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-05-07, 06:17 | Link #82 | |
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The villain: Super evil, out to exterminate the other nation for the sole purpose of benefiting themselves. -Pretty dumb reason to start a war. But then again in real life humanity past history has proven them to be just that... The good guys: Must eliminate the evil completely. And then this is what I fear will happen: The cliche anime ending: The good guys completely destroys the evildoers, except for their civilians. Everything is fine and there is peace. Real life: C'mon you think that is possible? The war will continue to go on, I mean look at how many vagan hide on earth that nobody found out. Even if they defeat the vagan, there will be terrorist groups hiding on earth that will seek revenge. So this is what really likely to happen: All vagan the earth people can get their hands on will be exterminated. Destruction of vagan civilians will be hidden from the public or presented to the public in "another" way. And life goes on, anybody who is found to be vagan is send to death. In other words, complete genocide. This has to be done because they fought against them for 100 years and one side must be completely destroyed for the war to end, no way they can reach a peace agreement. |
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2012-05-07, 06:51 | Link #83 | |
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To be honest I could understand why he was reluctant to send out Diva. First you have to reassign soldiers to pilot the dammed thing during combat, his opinion as the commander of the base would be that the resourcers would be better spend then sending a ''old'' (flits own words) ship. Also he might just refused out of principle since Flit (his actions are awsome) was really rude in demanding a battle ship like that. What the fault of the commander is that he isn't aware of the capability's of the ships under his command. I personally expected Flit to remove the Age system if the ship itself was more a museum peace but since it has always stayed on the ship the commander should have been aware of the incredible device that has changed the outcome of major battles. But it is a habit of every Gundam show to make commanders incompetent so the front soldiers have a chance to shine. The only exception to this rule is Flit and his former playboy number 2. |
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2012-05-07, 09:26 | Link #84 | |
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Sri Lanka destroyed the Tamil Tiger rebellion killing its leaders and destroying its capacity to fight. Tamil Tigers surrendered so their civilians would be spared of casualties. In WWII Japan and Germany surrendered when their capacity to fight was destroyed and never pulled anything like what they did ever since. Becoming pacifists. So the Federation through its actions must show the Vegans the futility of their barbaric warfare. And yes reach Mars itself to make a point. Course I can see Ezelcant pull a Nero Decree and try to destroy the Vegan people than surrender. |
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2012-05-07, 10:24 | Link #85 | |
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Japan was to be even worse than Germany, they only surrendered after getting nuked twice. Their plan was to fight to the bitter end with every man woman and child in the main islands.
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2012-05-07, 10:59 | Link #86 | |
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If the Battle Stalingrad proved anything Germans had sense and were not suicidal. Actually Germany had it worse than Japan. Sure they were H-bombed but the number of civilian casualties and suffering were minimized by surrendering rather than being invaded like Germany. You don't read much do you? |
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2012-05-07, 12:04 | Link #87 | |
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On a side note, Himmler offered to surrender to Allies, the same guy being one of the key figures for all the Jewish death in camp. I would stop here because this is getting off-topic lol. Last edited by maplehurry; 2012-05-07 at 12:32. |
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2012-05-07, 12:04 | Link #88 |
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Join Date: May 2007
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well lets be honest people the road to peace is never easy no matter the scale of the conflict. I can really see the Vagan and Earthlings still feuding.
You'll have bitterness and strife that would last for generations to come
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2012-05-07, 14:14 | Link #91 |
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FED tried to start peace with them (Flit will have to agree since he is part of it) Vegan refused and want to kill every earthing So what Flit can do to protect earthing? 1 kill every Vegan 2 try for peace with Vegan who don’t want it even if it was favorable to them What will you do if you were Flit? Oh and as you said we already know that Vegan = evil But we also know that Flit want to kill all Vegan since Age-2 Yet you only angry at Flit when he talked yet you ignored the Vegan when they kill everyone… |
2012-05-07, 14:43 | Link #92 | |
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- Flit wants to wipe out all the Vagans because they killed his family and two colonies he called home... massacred thousands, if not millions.. - Most terrans just don't want to fight a war. - Ezelcant wants to take over Earth because he thinks his people got screwed over. - Most Vagans want a nicer place to live and follow Ezelcant because he promises good times on Earth. Flit has the mad scientist gene... he's going to snap. Kio is going to be X-Rounder messiah. He's surrounded by misfits and he'll make friends with the enemies... not like Flit did... make real friends. |
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2012-05-07, 15:50 | Link #94 | |
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LOL You really are a historical revisionist. Germans knew they weren't going to win except Hitler. Why do suppose Goering telegraphed Hitler to give him permission to lead Germany? Or Himmler trying to negotiate with the West so at least the Nazi's would hold only Germany and not surrender to the Russians? Both of which made Hitler very angry. Why did Abwehr opened a communications line to the British and tried to kill Hitler several times and had a coup attempt? So Germany can surrender with reaping what it sown. Heck when Hitler issued his Nero decree Albert Speer sabotaged those orders. Germans knew they were beat it just that Hitler would rather take them along to his grave. Japanese on the other hand were counting on one decisive battle so they could negotiate in a position of strength upon surrendering. Hiroshima and Nagasaki shattered any such expectations. On Topic: Vegans are on the loosing end even if they destroyed the Big Ring. The numbers and industrial capacity of the Federation and independent colony nations would outlast them. Sure they have their death ray well so does the Federation. There at least is tech parity. But that is one death ray. The Federation can build more photon blasters. If the Diva is seen fit to retire I can't see the Federation not having at least several ships equipped with it. |
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2012-05-07, 16:19 | Link #95 | ||
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That's what Flit told Kio. He didn't tell Kio to destroy all Vagans, he told Kio that Ezelant is their main bad guy and he must be stopped at all costs. Quote:
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2012-05-07, 19:48 | Link #96 | |
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Who's to say they don't have any more factories within the Earth sphere to support their war effort? Besides, there's always bound ot be spacenoids that resent the elitist Earth government and would be willing to co-operate with the Vagans.
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2012-05-07, 21:05 | Link #98 | |
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Spoiler for Euba vs Zalam:
I'm sure colony nation opinion would be anti-Vegan since they were the first victims. Vegans tried to pull divide and conquer tactics but that only galvanized Euba and Zalam even more when they tried to blow up their colony. Ract he still around. Backing the wild card faction in this generation. |
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2012-05-07, 21:13 | Link #99 | |
Where are the good animes
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Nuke solves all problems. |
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