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Aoie_Emesai · 2006-07-17, 09:41

This anime is all about anime cliches: tsundere, magic, school. But it's still worth watching because of one question "how come she summoned a human as a guardian?", eh?

ps: don't go crazy over this anime now, there's plenty to go around now.

Decel · 2006-07-17, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Aoie_Emesai

This anime is all about anime cliches: tsundere, magic, school. But it's still worth watching because of one question "how come she summoned a human as a guardian?", eh?

ps: don't go crazy over this anime now, there's plenty to go around now.

You've just described 80% of all anime out there, by using the term cliche.

What's important is the execution, and this one pulls it off very well.

Kaoru Chujo · 2006-07-17, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Decel

You've just described 80% of all anime out there, by using the term cliche. What's important is the execution, and this one pulls it off very well.

This is a very important point and I'd like to emphasize it. Anime is popular entertainment, which works by playing variations on familiar and emotionally effective cliches. We usually see the cliches in the genres that we don't like, and talk about originality when we see minor variations appearing in the genres we do like. For instance, just about all mecha seems like a huge cliche to me, whereas shoujo seems like a cliche to many other people. Successful works like Zero combine effective variations with satisfying exploitation of the main cliches.

kari-no-sugata · 2006-07-17, 14:06

If you want to get down to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_and_Juliet

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A common misconception is that the plot of Romeo and Juliet was invented by Shakespeare. In fact, his play is a dramatisation of Arthur Brooke's narrative poem The Tragicall History of Romeus and Juliet (1562). Shakespeare followed Brooke's poem fairly closely but enriched its texture by adding extra detail to both major and minor characters, in particular the Nurse and Mercutio.

Brooke's poem was not original either, being a translation and adaptation of Giuletta e Romeo, by Matteo Bandello, included in his Novelle of 1554. This was in turn an adaptation of Luigi da Porto's Giulietta e Romeo, included in his Istoria novellamente ritrovata di due Nobili Amanti (c. 1530). This was the version that gave the story much of its modern form, including the names of the lovers, naming the rival families to the Montecchi and the Cappelletti, and shifting the action to Verona.

The earliest known version of the tale is the 1476 story of Mariotto and Gianozza of Siena by Masuccio Salernitano, in Il Novelino' (Novella XXXIII).

Of course, a skilled writer can make even a plain seeming premise into an interesting story. And a bad writer can make a hash of an excellent premise...

Maids! Maids! Maids! · 2006-07-17, 18:01

blitz1/2 · 2006-07-17, 18:09

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Nice pics! Anybody have Tabitha pics?

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-07-18, 10:31

bah. you know how much Haruhi has spoiled you, when you keep checking websites for the raws, two hour after it's been aired. and your expecting the fansub two-three days later.

I hate you a.f.k. (T-T)

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-07-19, 06:15

ah. just seen the raws.

very good. I like.

Kirche the maneater! lol

She slap those boys down yet they still came back for more. lol

im really enjoying this, this is what Harry Potter should of been.

Water · 2006-07-19, 08:41

Hmm... there seems to be only 1 ep3 raw (bad quality raw that is) out there, despite the show being aired several days ago. Did something happen?

Srin Tuar · 2006-07-19, 08:48

Does anyone else thing the sound of "Kirche" seems way off from "Kyuruke" ?

Is "Kirche" supposed to rhyme with "Birch" and "Lurch" ? Ugh, Not a sexy name.

Kyuruke is better.

LostBlue · 2006-07-19, 10:43

I think maybe the "che" is probably pronounce like 'che'ddar not like bir'ch'
KIR => Kyuru is a bit of a strech, imo tho. ^^

Sylf · 2006-07-19, 11:22

Don't try to read it like English. Read it with German mind set.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirche

zelgadiszero · 2006-07-19, 12:29

Kirche = Church

Aoie_Emesai · 2006-07-19, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Decel

You've just described 80% of all anime out there, by using the term cliche.

What's important is the execution, and this one pulls it off very well.

I suppose so. It has its intresting factors that is unique to it. Overall it's really enjoyable, and it seems that she has already become attracted to him already. ^_^

zalas · 2006-07-19, 15:07

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Kirche = Church

Ohhhhhhhh the irony...

Decel · 2006-07-19, 18:03

Wow! Ep 3 was a blast! When the credits rolled I was all "Awwww. It's over already?". This is when you know that you like a show.

Saito has more than mere passive perversive tendencies. I didn't expect that

Louise is such an awesome character. Love how she stammers when she's irritated

!

Damn, regretting that we're only getting 13 eps of it..

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-07-19, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Decel

Wow! Ep 3 was a blast! When the credits rolled I was all "Awwww. It's over already?". This is when you know that you like a show.

Saito has more than mere passive perversive tendencies. I didn't expect that

Louise is such an awesome character. Love how she stammers when she's irritated

!

Damn, regretting that we're only getting 13 eps of it..

yep the same way im regretting haruhi is only 14eps long. buuuut!

if we show lots of interest, there might be a second series!

After all there is eight light novels worth of it.

But if they don't oh well, at leased i get to read it...in English. Handy, being part of a Translation group....

uruchai · 2006-07-19, 19:48

the episodes are just getting better and better; and I'm falling in love with Saito more and more

and a brutal sadistic Louise (lol at the whip) didnt even bother me. I usually tend to despise those characters; but Louise is an exception.

looking forward to the next ep featuring Siesta! woohoo!

Decel · 2006-07-19, 20:53

Yeah I'm not into the loli tsundere usually (disliked Shana especially! Well, from the eps I've seen so far), but Louise cracks me up. The Louise/Saito relationship has a lot of back-and-forth chemistry, unlike many anime couples I've seen lately.

@Onizuka-GTO
I hear ya! SHnY however I see the presence of a second season as a question of time (after Kanon and FMP sequel probably), whereas ZnT I wonder if it will gather enough support to persuade the sponsors.

blitz1/2 · 2006-07-19, 21:28

Yeah, it is getting better!

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2006-07-19, 06:15	Link #188
Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	ah. just seen the raws. very good. I like. Kirche the maneater! lol She slap those boys down yet they still came back for more. lol im really enjoying this, this is what Harry Potter should of been. __________________

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Decel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada	Wow! Ep 3 was a blast! When the credits rolled I was all "Awwww. It's over already?". This is when you know that you like a show. Saito has more than mere passive perversive tendencies. I didn't expect that Louise is such an awesome character. Love how she stammers when she's irritated ! Damn, regretting that we're only getting 13 eps of it.. __________________ 2006- The year of the invasion of the Suzumiya Haruhi avatars and signature logos

2006-07-19, 20:53	Link #199
Decel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada	Yeah I'm not into the loli tsundere usually (disliked Shana especially! Well, from the eps I've seen so far), but Louise cracks me up. The Louise/Saito relationship has a lot of back-and-forth chemistry, unlike many anime couples I've seen lately. @Onizuka-GTO I hear ya! SHnY however I see the presence of a second season as a question of time (after Kanon and FMP sequel probably), whereas ZnT I wonder if it will gather enough support to persuade the sponsors. __________________ 2006- The year of the invasion of the Suzumiya Haruhi avatars and signature logos

2006-07-17, 18:01	Link #185
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2006-07-19, 08:41	Link #189
Water イデアがない。 Join Date: May 2006 Location: 天国	Hmm... there seems to be only 1 ep3 raw (bad quality raw that is) out there, despite the show being aired several days ago. Did something happen?

2006-07-19, 08:48	Link #190
Srin Tuar 無謀 Join Date: Sep 2004	Does anyone else thing the sound of "Kirche" seems way off from "Kyuruke" ? Is "Kirche" supposed to rhyme with "Birch" and "Lurch" ? Ugh, Not a sexy name. Kyuruke is better.

2006-07-19, 10:43	Link #191
LostBlue 祭囃子 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal	I think maybe the "che" is probably pronounce like 'che'ddar not like bir'ch' KIR => Kyuru is a bit of a strech, imo tho. ^^

2006-07-19, 11:22	Link #192
Sylf 翻訳家わなびぃ Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 50	Don't try to read it like English. Read it with German mind set. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirche

2006-07-19, 12:29	Link #193
zelgadiszero Dark Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 40	Kirche = Church

2006-07-19, 19:48	Link #198
uruchai "You'll be blessed!" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mississauga	the episodes are just getting better and better; and I'm falling in love with Saito more and more and a brutal sadistic Louise (lol at the whip) didnt even bother me. I usually tend to despise those characters; but Louise is an exception. looking forward to the next ep featuring Siesta! woohoo!

2006-07-19, 21:28	Link #200
blitz1/2 Tenshi's Defense Squadron Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system	Yeah, it is getting better! __________________ hai, hai. Onii-chan has his work cut out for him.